Team Prospero Brainstorming Thread - SEMI FINALS: The Best Picture Show

goofyyukyuk

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Thinking about it more, I think having the bar in the middle retract will be the best so I will work on a video/ gif of how that will look so that the ride still functions but the guests are fooled
Awesome! I think having a visual representation is definitely going to be the best way to get that across and really sell the effect, so I’m looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
 

goofyyukyuk

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Little update on how things are going... Jokers and I are progressing well with scene descriptions... I’m hoping to have those out in the next day or two to help everyone else out with their stuff! Speaking of that, Dash, do you think you could include stuff in the queue that shows how big of a star George Valentin is at the start of The Artist? We can’t find a good way to fit it into the attraction without messing up timing and think it may work best in the queue! Project’s due Tuesday evening, so I’d say we’re making really good time!
 

AceAstro

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Just an update on the ride technology:

I have started on the video. I am sneaking off to the mountains tomorrow night and all day Saturday but will be back Sunday morning. I will try to be as active as possible on here. I am not taking my computer in order to avoid all my emails so I will not have the video done until Monday morning (at the earliest). When the video is done, I hope to have everything to share with y'all!
 

DashHaber

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Little update on how things are going... Jokers and I are progressing well with scene descriptions... I’m hoping to have those out in the next day or two to help everyone else out with their stuff! Speaking of that, Dash, do you think you could include stuff in the queue that shows how big of a star George Valentin is at the start of The Artist? We can’t find a good way to fit it into the attraction without messing up timing and think it may work best in the queue! Project’s due Tuesday evening, so I’d say we’re making really good time!
That is something I was thinking about. I'm planning on having posters for George Valentin films in the queue, along with newspapers and other articles to set up his popularity and the fact that he is Kinograph Studios's biggest star.
 

goofyyukyuk

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That is something I was thinking about. I'm planning on having posters for George Valentin films in the queue, along with newspapers and other articles to set up his popularity and the fact that he is Kinograph Studios's biggest star.
That sounds great! I really like this idea of the queue telling the story and I can't wait to see how it all comes together on your end!
 

Outbound

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That sounds great! I really like this idea of the queue telling the story and I can't wait to see how it all comes together on your end!

If we’re doing this, do you think we will need the first vingettes to introduce Valentin? Maybe cut straight to him in the flesh.

You could have his movies playing on screens during the intro, alongside posters to emphasize his success in silent Hollywood.

Before I forget, did anyone plan on doing anything with the score for the ride? If not, I might be able to make a video.

I’d love that! Will work excellently with my video.
 

JokersWild

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If we’re doing this, do you think we will need the first vingettes to introduce Valentin? Maybe cut straight to him in the flesh.

You could have his movies playing on screens during the intro, alongside posters to emphasize his success in silent Hollywood.



I’d love that! Will work excellently with my video.
I believe that we're getting rid of the vignettes. Right now, it looks like we're starting with the title card intro, heading straight into The German Affair scene. Moving the set up to the queue, there should be enough introduction to George as a character, and The German Affair should be sufficient in introducing Peppy.
 

goofyyukyuk

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Before I forget, did anyone plan on doing anything with the score for the ride? If not, I might be able to make a video.
I was just thinking about this! I’d imagine you’re more musically gifted than I am so that sounds great! 🤣
Speaking of things I forgot, I just had a really cool idea for the post-ride, and since nobody’s claimed it, is it good if I work on that?

I believe that we're getting rid of the vignettes. Right now, it looks like we're starting with the title card intro, heading straight into The German Affair scene. Moving the set up to the queue, there should be enough introduction to George as a character, and The German Affair should be sufficient in introducing Peppy.
Yeah we changed up the start a little bit, but it should still get the idea across!
 

goofyyukyuk

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I have zero problem with that. What were you thinking?
I’m thinking about a better version of the post-show area of Journey Into Imagination... playing with sounds and color... put guests in the director’s chair? Also want to do something showcasing more silent films and early talkies... It’s vague rn, but I’m going to try and flesh it out after I finish with the scene write ups
 

DashHaber

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What were we thinking in terms of how the ride vehicles look? Considering we're starting off with that title card scene, I was thinking they'd essentially be mobile movie theater seats.
 

DashHaber

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Hey, folks. Checking in with a rough draft of the queue. Let me know what you think.

Queue: Stepping through the Kinograph Studios gates, guests are greeted with the wide street of a studio backlot in front of them. Part of the street is roped off with a partition, as a sigh points towards the left with the message “Extras must sign in before auditions”. Following the sign, guests step between a storage shed and office space amid a variety of chairs and props. Overhead, a large poster for A Russian Affair displays the dashing figure of George Valentin. There is also a modest check-in table on the right-hand side with a few names written on the check-in sheet. Among the names is Peppy Miller, complete with a black and white headshot featuring her spirited grin. Guests will head to the door on the right under the “Kinograph Offices” sign. The paint on the door frame appears a bit washed out, appearing white in contrast to the green lining other exterior doorframes.

Guests enter the lobby of the offices, which is designed in a lovely Art Deco aesthetic. The white walls, green doorframes, and brown hardwood flooring grant a streamlined look to the space, as a portrait of Al Zimmer (the studio boss) smiles upon those looking at it. Guests work their way along the halls of the office space, passing numerous offices as they do such as “Accounting”, “Script Department”, and “Public Relations”. If there is anything to stand out from the utilitarian design, it’s the fact that there is one name present throughout: George Valentin. Framed posters for his movies hang at key points throughout the queue, and outside the “Public Relations” office is a box filled with letters marked “Fan Mail for George Valentin”. A smaller box with similar letters is marked “Fan Mail for Jack”, with a little paw print on the box’s side. The lobby tables even feature issues of Variety with headlines related to George, although one with the headline “Who’s That Girl?” seems to relate to Peppy.

Heading down the halls, guests might notice something odd. One is that the color seems to progressively wash away, the hardwood floor steadily a darker shade and the green streaks on doorframes fading away to white. The world is more and more taking on the monochrome colors of the silver screen. Along with that is the sound of activity fading away. Whereas the clatter of typewriters and ringing of phones could be heard earlier when guests first entered, the sound has faded away except for the background music. The effect comes together as guests enter a room marked “Screening Room Bay”. Stepping in, the room is completely black and white. A flickering projector shows safety tips via a goofy silent film, as guests navigate the railings towards the loading area. There, an attendant in a monochrome usher outfit helps guests into their vehicles as they take their seats, moving into the Screening Room and beginning their ride.
 

goofyyukyuk

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What were we thinking in terms of how the ride vehicles look? Considering we're starting off with that title card scene, I was thinking they'd essentially be mobile movie theater seats.
Up to Ace... I like the idea of mobile movie theater seats, but Jokers and I also discussed the idea of 20s era automobiles
Hey, folks. Checking in with a rough draft of the queue. Let me know what you think.

Queue: Stepping through the Kinograph Studios gates, guests are greeted with the wide street of a studio backlot in front of them. Part of the street is roped off with a partition, as a sigh points towards the left with the message “Extras must sign in before auditions”. Following the sign, guests step between a storage shed and office space amid a variety of chairs and props. Overhead, a large poster for A Russian Affair displays the dashing figure of George Valentin. There is also a modest check-in table on the right-hand side with a few names written on the check-in sheet. Among the names is Peppy Miller, complete with a black and white headshot featuring her spirited grin. Guests will head to the door on the right under the “Kinograph Offices” sign. The paint on the door frame appears a bit washed out, appearing white in contrast to the green lining other exterior doorframes.
I love that the queue is starting with the backlot of Kinograph Studios! The details that you added in the beginning sound like a great way to get people's interest piqued in the story... I especially like the inclusion of Peppy's headshot as an easter egg... really cool detail!

Guests enter the lobby of the offices, which is designed in a lovely Art Deco aesthetic. The white walls, green doorframes, and brown hardwood flooring grant a streamlined look to the space, as a portrait of Al Zimmer (the studio boss) smiles upon those looking at it. Guests work their way along the halls of the office space, passing numerous offices as they do such as “Accounting”, “Script Department”, and “Public Relations”. If there is anything to stand out from the utilitarian design, it’s the fact that there is one name present throughout: George Valentin. Framed posters for his movies hang at key points throughout the queue, and outside the “Public Relations” office is a box filled with letters marked “Fan Mail for George Valentin”. A smaller box with similar letters is marked “Fan Mail for Jack”, with a little paw print on the box’s side. The lobby tables even feature issues of Variety with headlines related to George, although one with the headline “Who’s That Girl?” seems to relate to Peppy.
Once again, great job pulling out these easter eggs... I feel way more comfortable with the attraction beginning the way it is knowing that you're going to such lengths to make sure everyone knows who George Valentin is... and the inclusion of fan mail for Jack is brilliant!

Heading down the halls, guests might notice something odd. One is that the color seems to progressively wash away, the hardwood floor steadily a darker shade and the green streaks on doorframes fading away to white. The world is more and more taking on the monochrome colors of the silver screen. Along with that is the sound of activity fading away. Whereas the clatter of typewriters and ringing of phones could be heard earlier when guests first entered, the sound has faded away except for the background music. The effect comes together as guests enter a room marked “Screening Room Bay”. Stepping in, the room is completely black and white. A flickering projector shows safety tips via a goofy silent film, as guests navigate the railings towards the loading area. There, an attendant in a monochrome usher outfit helps guests into their vehicles as they take their seats, moving into the Screening Room and beginning their ride.
I love that you're including a transition from the color of the theme park to the black and white of the attraction... really great idea!!!

Overall, I really love the queue design you've put together! Very fitting way to introduce guests to the attraction!
 

DashHaber

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Up to Ace... I like the idea of mobile movie theater seats, but Jokers and I also discussed the idea of 20s era automobiles

I love that the queue is starting with the backlot of Kinograph Studios! The details that you added in the beginning sound like a great way to get people's interest piqued in the story... I especially like the inclusion of Peppy's headshot as an easter egg... really cool detail!


Once again, great job pulling out these easter eggs... I feel way more comfortable with the attraction beginning the way it is knowing that you're going to such lengths to make sure everyone knows who George Valentin is... and the inclusion of fan mail for Jack is brilliant!


I love that you're including a transition from the color of the theme park to the black and white of the attraction... really great idea!!!

Overall, I really love the queue design you've put together! Very fitting way to introduce guests to the attraction!
I just ask, because that idea of mobile movie theater seats feels a lot smoother to segue through the ride with, especially if we keep the last part of the queue as the Screening Room Bay with that title card opening. While 1920s-era cars definitely makes sense, it could just seem a little jarring within that setting.

Besides that, happy to hear you like the queue.
 

goofyyukyuk

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I just ask, because that idea of mobile movie theater seats feels a lot smoother to segue through the ride with, especially if we keep the last part of the queue as the Screening Room Bay with that title card opening. While 1920s-era cars definitely makes sense, it could just seem a little jarring within that setting.

Besides that, happy to hear you like the queue.
Good point... that’d actually be really cool to sit down in the screening room and then the seats are your vehicles... hopefully Ace has some good ideas on that!
 

goofyyukyuk

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The Artist Post Show​
Following the end of the ride, guests will unload and enter an interactive area that is entirely in black and white. In this area, there will be a wide variety of activities, essentially advancing the activities found in The What-If Labs at the end of Journey Into Imagination with Figment. First, there will be a “Break the Silence” activity, where guests can set music to a silent film of their own. They’ll get to choose from a number of George Valentin films, and they will have a full range of music and fun sound effects to choose from. Additionally, there will be a filmmaking station where guests can choose whether to star in a scene from a silent film or a talkie, acting it out in a large booth and getting to download the result onto their MagicBands.
Throughout the room, there will be several paint buckets located along the walls. Inside these buckets will be paint brushes equipped with motion sensing technology that allows them to know where they have been pointed. By pushing a button on the brush and “painting” in the air in the direction of the wall, guests can paint their own images onto the black and white canvas that is the post show area. After five minutes, brush strokes will fade so that new paintings can be made.
Additionally, the walls will hold screens showing different silent films (some by Valentin, some by real actors like Chaplin), and on one wall, there will be a large screen showing clips from different talkies, complete with the actual audio from the 1920s and 1930s.
Of course, there will be merchandise available; however, all of the merchandise will be black and white, including shirts, hats, mugs, and keychains. One of the unique souvenirs will be never-before-seen George Valentin and Peppy Miller films and “signed” photographs from the famous actors.


This is what I've got for the post show... some of my concept art will hopefully flesh this out better. I think that tonight or tomorrow morning, Jokers and I will have our ride scene descriptions posted, and my concept art will be up by Tuesday... how's everybody doing with their stuff?
 

JokersWild

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The Artist Post Show​
Following the end of the ride, guests will unload and enter an interactive area that is entirely in black and white. In this area, there will be a wide variety of activities, essentially advancing the activities found in The What-If Labs at the end of Journey Into Imagination with Figment. First, there will be a “Break the Silence” activity, where guests can set music to a silent film of their own. They’ll get to choose from a number of George Valentin films, and they will have a full range of music and fun sound effects to choose from. Additionally, there will be a filmmaking station where guests can choose whether to star in a scene from a silent film or a talkie, acting it out in a large booth and getting to download the result onto their MagicBands.
Throughout the room, there will be several paint buckets located along the walls. Inside these buckets will be paint brushes equipped with motion sensing technology that allows them to know where they have been pointed. By pushing a button on the brush and “painting” in the air in the direction of the wall, guests can paint their own images onto the black and white canvas that is the post show area. After five minutes, brush strokes will fade so that new paintings can be made.
Additionally, the walls will hold screens showing different silent films (some by Valentin, some by real actors like Chaplin), and on one wall, there will be a large screen showing clips from different talkies, complete with the actual audio from the 1920s and 1930s.
Of course, there will be merchandise available; however, all of the merchandise will be black and white, including shirts, hats, mugs, and keychains. One of the unique souvenirs will be never-before-seen George Valentin and Peppy Miller films and “signed” photographs from the famous actors.


This is what I've got for the post show... some of my concept art will hopefully flesh this out better. I think that tonight or tomorrow morning, Jokers and I will have our ride scene descriptions posted, and my concept art will be up by Tuesday... how's everybody doing with their stuff?
Looks fantastic. The only thing that I would suggest is to have the post show be in color (other than the elements with the paintbrush.). Keep the black and white to the attraction. I just think that it might be jarring/ undermining the theme of the ride to have this big introduction of color in the finale only to immediately go back to black and white for the post show.

Last of my show scenes will be up tomorrow, and I'll start work on the music outline video afterwards. That should be done by your Monday.
 

goofyyukyuk

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Looks fantastic. The only thing that I would suggest is to have the post show be in color (other than the elements with the paintbrush.). Keep the black and white to the attraction. I just think that it might be jarring/ undermining the theme of the ride to have this big introduction of color in the finale only to immediately go back to black and white for the post show.

Last of my show scenes will be up tomorrow, and I'll start work on the music outline video afterwards. That should be done by your Monday.
You’re probably right... honestly I forgot about that ending 🤣 , so I’ll change it
 

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