Rumor Stitch's Great Escape Replacement— Don’t Hold Your Breath

HonorableMention

HonorableMention

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IP's can be great if the audience doesn't need to know everything about them to enjoy the experience. I love Mission: Breakout, but if you don't know anything about GOTG, you're going to be lost, even with their brief introductions in the pre-show.

Love it or hate it, you don't need to know much about Avatar to enjoy NRJ (or all of Pandora in general). I've never seen the film and I can appreciate that it's a well-done land. I'd love for Disney to start making Mystic Manor quality attractions across the parks, but unfortunately it looks like we're stuck with IP's. I don't see a big problem with it if it works well as an attraction/land. Toy Story Land might not be great use of an IP, but Galaxy's Edge probably will be.
 
Sharon&Susan

Sharon&Susan

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marni1971 said:
Yep. The drop is a drop back in time. Hence before then all you see are skeletons. Again, the DLP version tells the story much better.

Phantom Manor has a phenomenal story, taking in most of Frontierland too.
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I thought the original implication of WDW's POTC was that you entered the fort that the pirates were attacking and that's why you were able to hear cannons firing from the roof and the pirates could be heard singing in the queue.
 
lazyboy97o

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baymenxpac said:
very quick thought on the space mountain safety nugget:

i think it's interesting that disney continues to show through their actions that they operate like practically every other american corporation that prioritizes profit and shareholder value above all else, yet when presented with insider knowledge that space mountain isn't the sturdiest attraction (and considering how long it's gone without a track replacement...duh), people default to the *brand identity* disney has cultivated throughout the years. "how do you know?!?! that's a BIG CHARGE!" even assuming that legal wouldn't let the ride operate if it was unsafe is a leap in logic when one considers that we see corporations all around the country skirting environmental, tax, and at times, criminal law in the quest of a profit.

how many times does this company need to create upcharge events (or in MVMCP's case, an upcharge event within upcharge event), flake on routine maintenance, or hike prices to get people to see that yes, we all have very good experiences at disney parks and are, to varying degrees, consumers of the #brand. but that doesn't mean that all of its actions as a company are automatically altruistic.
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One of those deniers does not consider the World Health Organization to be a reputable authority on heath or the National Fire Protection Association and International Code Council to be authorities on building safety. A signed and sealed engineering report would be refused as insufficient evidence of any concerns.
 
CosmicDuck

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I agree with almost all your points
I'd rank DAK as less stagnant than DHS for a few reasons.
1) Every show in DHS needs to go, included the current form of Fantasmic. They're all extremely dated, they're all in bad repair, they're all comically of their time, and they all look tired. That's like... four attractions that need to be scraped, gutted, retooled from scratch. Nemo and Lion King aren't spring chickens but they are still serviceable. And, regardless how one feels about it, DAK just got Rivers of Light while Fantasmic has been trudging along for almost 20 years.
2). DAK (brilliantly) has animal trails and those will never be "dated" or "stagnant."
3). DHS will soon look like the shell of a theme park with a kids area (Toy Story) tacked on to one end and a Star Wars theme park tacked onto the other. There is nothing cohesive at DHS. It's a Frankenstein Monster of a park that's getting more and more deformed. The entire 2/3rds of the park that aren't Star Wars or Toy Story (and that aren't Tower of Terror) need a total re-do. Rockin Roller Coaster needs a new theme, Muppets (and I type this using a hand which is attached to an arm that has a Jim Henson tattoo on it) need to 100% revamp/do-over, Indiana Jones needs a ride (or two), and Sunset Blvd no longer fit with the theming of the park. It feels like three mini theme parks hodgepodge sewed together. DAK atleast feels whole.

DHS needs at least 15 rides total, EPCOT needs 20 rides total, DAK needs about 15 rides total.
Just my thoughts!
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I think the cohesiveness and elegance of DAK's theming takes it a long, long way. I definitely think it needs more attractions, but I think it can get away with a lot less just based on that. All things being equal, I think its my favorite park on that coast.
 
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Disney's reliance on IP is the tried and true method for attracting guests. If there's one thing Disney gets; it's brand loyalty. And with IPs it's no different. Fans are loyal to their favorite characters. Disney Co. mentality seems to be; Why build something from scratch (untested, unproven and unfamiliar) when you can build on an established property that is familiar to guests? They'll flock to it like moths to a flame because they already know (and love) the characters.

-But- as we've seen with Stitch's Great Escape, it seems that IP alone isn't the end-all savior. A good attraction needs good bones, a good storyline/plot and likable characters. In Stitch's case not all of the boxes were checked. Clearly IP alone isn't enough to keep an attraction afloat. So by that logic it's isn't a necessary component in building a better attraction. I wish Disney Co. would grasp this very basic understanding and drop the IP mandate mania.

Whatever they do from here on out, if they consider using IP; I hope they use it to it's fullest potential instead of using it as a means to an end. If Disney keeps pushing IP simply to attract guests; we'll probably get a few more SGEs in the coming years and some time later they too will close.
 
HMF

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MisterPenguin said:
No to PM, but I've seen the video, it looks like an excellent ride with a cohesive story. Original IP can be done well. I'm not saying it can't. It's not a guarantee of a good ride, though.

In the MK version of PotC, you're already in piratey times before you drop, no? Is the skeleton piloting the ship modern times?
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Yes, the MK Version of POTC is in linear time. The other three are where you travel through time.
 
geekza

geekza

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HMF said:
Yes, the MK Version of POTC is in linear time. The other three are where you travel through time.
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I don't know about that. It's muddy, to be sure, since you can see ships in the distance inside the fort, however, as @marni1971 said, you don't see any live pirates until you go down the waterfall. All you see are skeletons, including the ones playing chess in the queue.
 
MisterPenguin

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geekza said:
I don't know about that. It's muddy, to be sure, since you can see ships in the distance inside the fort, however, as @marni1971 said, you don't see any live pirates until you go down the waterfall. All you see are skeletons, including the ones playing chess in the queue.
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Unless it's Halloween and live pirates in the queue just won't shut up about Gunpowder Pete.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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I think it was more like "This is all the budget we will allocate to this attraction"...It is the shortest iteration of the ride worldwide...And such a shame they skimped on that version at their Flagship Theme Park and Resort...
 

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