MK Stitch's Great Escape Replacement— Don’t Hold Your Breath

[Disstevefan1]

I have no idea but could it be when an attraction is closed, its not taxed as much as an open operating attraction?

Is it possible if Disney gets some sort of property tax break for the square footage for closed spaces like Stitch and WoL?

We know Disney loves tax write offs where they can get them.

 

[Bocabear]

I think everyone thought that when they were building Tron they were going to overhaul the look of tomorrowland....they started, then just ended up poainting everything white and gave up....
Surely there is an Imagineer that can create some cohesive harmony between the attractions that are currently there and replacement attractions for those that do not fit the theme of the ares... Speedway, Shuttered Stitch, Laff Floor...

 

[EagleScout610]

We would have been without Tomorrowland for roughly 14 years.

Yes but just think of how many photo ops you can put on the walls to charge people for. That's thinking the Bob way

 

[aladdin2007]

I think everyone thought that when they were building Tron they were going to overhaul the look of tomorrowland....they started, then just ended up poainting everything white and gave up....
Surely there is an Imagineer that can create some cohesive harmony between the attractions that are currently there and replacement attractions for those that do not fit the theme of the ares... Speedway, Shuttered Stitch, Laff Floor...

I feel like TDO is allowing local management to make poor choices in this land, instead of bringing in Imagineering. To save costs of course, hence why stitch is left empty. Unless something has changed TDO still has to pay and buy projects/changes from Imagineering, unless Burbank forces it. Otherwise its up to local decsion thus the reason why Tomorowland looks like a ghetto left to rot. No cohesion, no direction.... Only recent plus being the better peoplemover narration implemented last year, why someone got that right but doesn't get it about the rest of the area...is mind boggling. Disney World needs a new president already! We might see better changes if we got one.

 

[Rosso11]

I feel like TDO is allowing local management to make poor choices in this land, instead of bringing in Imagineering. To save costs of course, hence why stitch is left empty. Unless something has changed TDO still has to pay and buy projects/changes from Imagineering, unless Burbank forces it. Otherwise it’s up to local decsion thus the reason why Tomorowland looks like a ghetto left to rot. No cohesion, no direction.... Only recent plus being the better peoplemover narration implemented last year, why someone got that right but doesn't get it about the rest of the area...is mind boggling. Disney World needs a new president already! We might see better changes if we got one.

Exactly! This is what most people do not realize. It’s up to the management of Florida to make these changes. Jeff Vahle holds all of the power. Not WDI

 

[HMF]

Exactly! This is what most people do not realize. It’s up to the management of Florida to make these changes. Jeff Vahle holds all of the power. Not WDI

You can also thank Jeff for the Hatbox Ghost being in the wrong place.

 

[Purduevian]

It still blows my mind that Space 220 (~25,000sqft) went in EPCOT instead of the Stitch space (~31,000sqft if you include ice cream and store).

It could have shared a kitchen with cosmic rays, would have been cheaper to build, and given the park with the weakest TS another option.

 

[aladdin2007]

It still blows my mind that Space 220 (~25,000sqft) went in EPCOT instead of the Stitch space (~31,000sqft if you include ice cream and store).

It could have shared a kitchen with cosmic rays, would have been cheaper to build, and given the park with the weakest TS another option.

Interesting points for sure

 

[Purduevian]

Interesting points for sure

The distribution of TS restaurants in MK is wild... the entire east 30ish% has none.

 

[James Alucobond]

... Why would you waste existing attraction space on a restaurant when Tomorrowland Terrace sits there shuttered for all but dessert parties?

 

[Bocabear]

... Why would you waste existing attraction space on a restaurant when Tomorrowland Terrace sits there shuttered for all but dessert parties?

That is a great point!!and the Tomorrowland Terrace could be redesigned and rebuilt as a Table Service Sci-Fi City/ Robot Restaurant type affair that would really be a huge draw... Something unique and whimsical....

 

[castlecake2.0]

If Tomorrowland Terrace is cursed to become nothing but dessert parties why not “plus” it and make it proper table service with firework$ view$?

 

[Purduevian]

... Why would you waste existing attraction space on a restaurant when Tomorrowland Terrace sits there shuttered for all but dessert parties?

Tomorrowland terrace would also work, but does need to offset the cost of the desert parties. It is also open air, which would make it less desirable that an enclosed area.

If we are going full blow imagineer. I always thought Tomorrowland Terrace land was a super underutilized space. My proposal would be a 3 story building. Story 1 would be mostly a pass through to enter a new guest area behind buzz. Story 1 might also have a QS stand or a small gift shop. Story 2 would be a Tomorrowland themed lounge open to the general guests during the day and transforming into dessert/fireworks party in the evening. Story 3 would be a large ballroom also with a large balcony. Host weddings or private events for an insane amount of money.

Anyways something does need to go into stitch. TS Restaurant is something that side of the park does need, but obviously other places in TL could take that over.

 

[James Alucobond]

It’s just that if you were spending that much to renovate Stitch, you could just as easily mostly enclose the Terrace and incorporate a lot of what you’re talking about.

 

[Purduevian]

It’s just that if you were spending that much to renovate Stitch, you could just as easily mostly enclose the Terrace and incorporate a lot of what you’re talking about.

ahh... but if you enclose the Terrace you suddenly loose the dessert parties...

 

[Bocabear]

ahh... but if you enclose the Terrace you suddenly loose the dessert parties...

If the TT retained a balcony wrapping the exterior while enclosing the rest...maybe a large futuristic looking glass atrium type structure...where fireworks could still be seen from the interior.... Coordinating in-restaurant effects and lighting could enhance the fireworks show... and let's face it, there is no fireworks viewing full TS restaurant anywhere in the park...

 

[sedati]

I work with the public and am shocked at how much Stitch merch I see everyday. But there are some key trends to this:

It is mostly females (young to middle-aged) who have this.
It is always two-armed "Earth" Stitch, and never four-armed "Alien" Stitch.
Angel is also in high demand (I had to ask who this character was- I just called her "Girl-Stitch"

Any project should not ignore this. Tomorrowland probably didn't work as it focused on Bad/Alien Stich as opposed to the more beloved stray who learned the value of Ohana.

 

[Bocabear]

I liked the Stitch movie....and the character until they started shoving him down our throats... I think they had too much focus on Stitch which made me dislike the character....

 

[James Alucobond]

ahh... but if you enclose the Terrace you suddenly loose the dessert parties...

I have no data, but I have to imagine the pre- and post-parties with gated garden views are way more popular than the seats & sweets option. The view of the show from the Terrace itself is pretty bad. And as stated, it’s not like you couldn’t just have a wall of windows there, which would probably sell better than seats & sweets with genuine table service. The other options don’t really have any reason why they need to be in the Terrace since they’re just a few tables of (subpar) desserts that people blast through either before or after the fireworks.

 

[Purduevian]

I have no data, but I have to imagine the pre- and post-parties with gated garden views are way more popular than the seats & sweets option. The view of the show from the Terrace itself is pretty bad. And as stated, it’s not like you couldn’t just have a wall of windows there, which would probably sell better than seats & sweets with genuine table service. The other options don’t really have any reason why they need to be in the Terrace since they’re just a few tables of (subpar) desserts that people blast through either before or after the fireworks.

Fair enough. My thought process was that at least the Terrace is currently used for something guest facing (even if it's just an upcharge event), while Stitch is just storage space.