I think they showed more of the women characters for a practical reason--they're in makeup as aliens. The two men are human, and Disney probably has different actors for different "excursions." If they show the character as portrayed by one of these actors, attendees will be mad that they didn't get the exact one in the promo.
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News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021
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Everyone knows those characters. The blue lady is exclusive!
They didn't go from 20% female representation to 80%. They stopped at 50%.
Last I checked, 50% of the population is female.
But some like to make hay that the jump from 20% to 50% is a 150% increase in female representation!!! Yeah, it's a lot... if you ignore the previous underrepresentation.
JoeCamel
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Wow, created an account just to say you don't want to be here? What seems false about that? One post - sheesh!
flynnibus
Premium Member
Overall population percentages mean very little in story telling unless you are actually trying to represent the general population.
50% of the world maybe female, but if I'm trying to make a piece about Samari... you won't be winning any 'correct representation' arguments with putting more women as samari.. or as sailors in a WWII ship. Etc.
When you put affirmative action above story - that's when it stands out and usually causes friction. That's what they've done in Star Wars and we know so because they've flat out told us they were intentionally promoting their intents.
Sorry, didn't know that galaxy was a men's club in real life.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Who knows... but we do know they weren't trying to correct an inbalance, but were in fact trying to instead promote strong female characters and increase representation for the affirmative action angle, not the 'story' angle.
flynnibus
Premium Member
The women of 'Star Wars' speak out about their new Empire
Kathleen Kennedy, Daisy Ridley, Carrie Fisher and Gwendoline Christie talk about the role of women in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens.'
www.latimes.com
Notice... She never cites lack of 'accuracy' as motivation.. but rather wanting the female representation both onscreen and in decision making.
"They are really, really making a huge effort across the company to put more focus around casting women and putting women in positions of responsibility, with directing and various other positions inside, different lines of business in the company,” Kennedy says. “It’s not just about casting female protagonists. It’s gotta be across the board throughout the industry.[...]"
Telling a story of a world where one presumes half the population is female, and then leaving them mostly left out, is, I would say, the true artifice here.
You have to work very hard, or have a very big blind spot, to tell a story and leave out the usual mix of human (and other sentient) beings... unless you want to say, "Hey, look, this society is stupidly patriarchal, just like ours was up until very recently!!"
durangojim
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Marcia Lucas edited the movie and should be given a lot of credit for the success it achieved. We don’t hear much about her because George effectively erased her from Lucasfilm after the divorce. That is far different than saying that she created the SW world and esthetic. She did not, but she absolutely influenced the first film and helped it become the success it was.
Listen to this podcast if you want more info.
flynnibus
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No see.. you 'presume' something - while the rest of us are listening to what KK has gone on record saying their motivation was.
Casper Gutman
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Boy, some folks are REALLY going to be upset at the present and future direction of the MCU.
Good.
Good.
Casper Gutman
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Anyone who watches the sequels and says, “Man, the problem here is that Rey is a girl” is just revealing their own deep-seated issues.
flynnibus
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I have no idea what you are going on about. My post was about KK, her choices, and reasoning behind them. Conclusions supported by HER OWN WORDS.
But please.. keep on with the rando non-sense
lazyboy97o
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Broken clocks and whatnot. Even if someone has a valid point it may not be best to associate with them.
Figments Friend
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So yeah, this Galactic Starcruiser.
Interested to see and hear more about it when the time comes for more roll outs from marketing.
Maybe some 'damage control' after what seemed to be a poor reaction to the promotional video?
Regardless, I'm wanting to hear more about what other activities and scenic options are contained within.
Also looking forward to the explosion of discussion once the place opens officially and the 'vloggers' and press reps get in there to experience it first hand.
Then we just have to filter through the 'paid shills' to get to someone who gives a honest and non-biased review of the place.
This is going to be a fun spring.
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Interested to see and hear more about it when the time comes for more roll outs from marketing.
Maybe some 'damage control' after what seemed to be a poor reaction to the promotional video?
Regardless, I'm wanting to hear more about what other activities and scenic options are contained within.
Also looking forward to the explosion of discussion once the place opens officially and the 'vloggers' and press reps get in there to experience it first hand.
Then we just have to filter through the 'paid shills' to get to someone who gives a honest and non-biased review of the place.
This is going to be a fun spring.
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"More women in Star Wars" does not equal "More women than men in Star Wars" since they were starting at a deficit.
Outside the trilogies, the two standalones had a woman protagonist (Jyn) and a male protagonist (Han). [The female-led movie was much better received by all audiences.]
The D+ series has had a male protagonist so far. (Not to mention the overwhelming male-dominated Bad Batch.)
The upcoming D+ series:
- co-leads, male and female (Boba Fett)
- male (Obi-Wan)
- female (Ahsoka)
If you interpreted what KK said as being "Star Wars will become *dominated* by women," then you have an issue in hearing what was really said.
And by all accounts of what has transpired, the reality of having equal representation (as opposed to overwhelming female representation) shows that you did indeed misconstrue what you 'heard.'
However, to make your point, all you have is your misrepresentation of what KK said, since what actually has happened clearly undercuts your claims.