Star Tours 2: Official confirmation - kinda

jt04

Well-Known Member
And he said the statistic is not current.

If anything the number had gone down because of the condition of the ride. It was nearly unrideable toward the end. I ride RnRC nearly every visit. In that same time period (ten years) I rode SM once. I'm sure I'm not the only person who quit riding SM.
 

Disneyfan1981

Active Member
No, the claim is 1 in 5 guests experince Space Mountain. I believe that statistic is hogwash or it comes from a very old spreadsheet when the attraction & guest makeup was alot different.

That is what I meant, my apologies for the mistype. I have to agree that the statistic cannot be accurate. Even if every person got onto Space over and over and over again I do not think it would equate consistent wait times of almost two hours. On my last trip in April and even then on the trip I took in July, it was 90 minutes or more and we hit up MK almost everyday.

Something isn't adding up.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
That is what I meant, my apologies for the mistype. I have to agree that the statistic cannot be accurate. Even if every person got onto Space over and over and over again I do not think it would equate consistent wait times of almost two hours. On my last trip in April and even then on the trip I took in July, it was 90 minutes or more and we hit up MK almost everyday.

Something isn't adding up.

Even with two tracks, SM's capacity is not overwhelming. Perhaps an insider has more up to date stats. Because "wait time" is not the best metric to go by. Different rides have different capacities and it does not measure repeat ridership. I know when I was young I rode SM repeatedly if the line was reasonable.
 

The Conundrum

New Member
Many many repeat riders.



Eddie Sotto is the source. And if you were not just a troll you would know that.

Might want to check who the author of the Eddie Sotto thread was buddy

I can see how some people didn't care for the first two, although I enjoyed them quite a bit, but I thought that Revenge of the Sith was just as good as the original films. They are also having a good deal of success with the new Clone Wars series which will probably draw more younger guests to the revamped Star Tours looking to see some of the worlds they're familiar with from that. So, I think that there may be some kind of reference to some of the prequel era worlds because of that.

The third was tolerable but it was nowhere NEAR the original trilogy. There's too much goofyness and plot holes in ROTS. Plus diagloue like:

Anakin Skywalker: You are so… beautiful.
Senator Amidala: It’s only because I’m so in love.
Anakin Skywalker: No, it’s because I’m so in love with you.
 

imagineer boy

Well-Known Member
I can see how some people didn't care for the first two, although I enjoyed them quite a bit, but I thought that Revenge of the Sith was just as good as the original films. They are also having a good deal of success with the new Clone Wars series which will probably draw more younger guests to the revamped Star Tours looking to see some of the worlds they're familiar with from that. So, I think that there may be some kind of reference to some of the prequel era worlds because of that.

I agree, the prequels do have their flaws but I actually enjoy them. I don't think they're near as bad as some make them out to be IMHO. :shrug: Countless other franchises have suffered far worse in the sequal department.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
I agree, the prequels do have their flaws but I actually enjoy them. I don't think they're near as bad as some make them out to be IMHO. :shrug: Countless other franchises have suffered far worse in the sequal department.

The real test will be how they are received by future generations who watch the movies in order and never see them as "prequels". That will be incredibly interesting to me.
 

ttalovebug

Active Member
I agree, the prequels do have their flaws but I actually enjoy them. I don't think they're near as bad as some make them out to be IMHO. :shrug: Countless other franchises have suffered far worse in the sequal department.


I agree also. Now looking back they are not even close to the orignals, but the prequels started coming out when I was ten. I thought they were so cool, and that's what got me into Star Wars in the first place. So in my book, they are OK. Jar-Jar aside, of course. :lol:
 

IlikeDW

Active Member
Unless he actually works at Space Mountain or is directly relate to it, I doubt he has the actual figures.

So I don't generally agree with JT but I just did some math.

IF my assumptions are wrong I expect to be blasted.

58 thousand guests a day

3 guests per rocket

so

58000/5 = 11,600 guests if 1 in five

11,600/3 = 3867 rockets needed to give 1/5 of the visitors a ride on SM

3867/14 hrs = 276 rockets per hour assuming park open from 9-midnight

276/60 min = 4.6 launches per min

sounds like 1 in 5 may be pretty close :shrug:
 

IlikeDW

Active Member
If attendance is only 40000 it works out to 3.2 launches per min.

Sorry, just realized this is the Star tours thread, thats what I get for moving along at the speed of traffic.
 

CaptainMichael

Well-Known Member
I agree, the prequels do have their flaws but I actually enjoy them. I don't think they're near as bad as some make them out to be IMHO. :shrug: Countless other franchises have suffered far worse in the sequal department.

I'd put the prequels up against RotJ. That movie is a mess. The rescue of Han from Jabba's Palace is cool, followed by a final visit with Yoda which is really cool, and then it all falls apart with Endor IMO. I find myself fast forwarding through all of the Ewok/Endor scenes and stopping at scenes where Luke confronts the Emperor and Vader. The latter scenes are brilliant and pure Star Wars. I actually could have done with more of that and less teddy bears fighting Stormtroopers and Chicken Walkers.

The music, the mood, the dialogue, and the acting between Luke, the Emperor, and Vader is $$$. It's funny how Vader can show emotion through his mask...you can see the conflict he's feeling.
 

_Scar

Active Member
I'd put the prequels up against RotJ. That movie is a mess. The rescue of Han from Jabba's Palace is cool, followed by a final visit with Yoda which is really cool, and then it all falls apart with Endor IMO. I find myself fast forwarding through all of the Ewok/Endor scenes and stopping at scenes where Luke confronts the Emperor and Vader. The latter scenes are brilliant and pure Star Wars. I actually could have done with more of that and less teddy bears fighting Stormtroopers and Chicken Walkers.

The music, the mood, the dialogue, and the acting between Luke, the Emperor, and Vader is $$$. It's funny how Vader can show emotion through his mask...you can see the conflict he's feeling.


Really? You could SEE his emotion through the mask? You aren't overanalyzing this? lol.
 

TalkingHead

Well-Known Member
So I don't generally agree with JT but I just did some math.

IF my assumptions are wrong I expect to be blasted.

58 thousand guests a day

3 guests per rocket

so

58000/5 = 11,600 guests if 1 in five

11,600/3 = 3867 rockets needed to give 1/5 of the visitors a ride on SM

3867/14 hrs = 276 rockets per hour assuming park open from 9-midnight

276/60 min = 4.6 launches per min

sounds like 1 in 5 may be pretty close :shrug:

It's actually a maximum of 6 guests per rocket. How does that change the numbers?
 

CaptainMichael

Well-Known Member
Really? You could SEE his emotion through the mask? You aren't overanalyzing this? lol.

No I'm not. There are clearly moments where the viewer is meant to see that Vader is conflicted. The camera focuses on him and he's in pensive type pose. It humanizes what had previously been a scary looking "machine". You can feel that there's still a person in there somewhere who is being reminded of who he is/was.

I think you may have been reading my post too literally.
 

The Conundrum

New Member
I'd put the prequels up against RotJ. That movie is a mess. The rescue of Han from Jabba's Palace is cool, followed by a final visit with Yoda which is really cool, and then it all falls apart with Endor IMO. I find myself fast forwarding through all of the Ewok/Endor scenes and stopping at scenes where Luke confronts the Emperor and Vader. The latter scenes are brilliant and pure Star Wars. I actually could have done with more of that and less teddy bears fighting Stormtroopers and Chicken Walkers.

The music, the mood, the dialogue, and the acting between Luke, the Emperor, and Vader is $$$. It's funny how Vader can show emotion through his mask...you can see the conflict he's feeling.

ROTJ is far better than the prequels. The prequel trilogy was the complete inverse of Star Wars. The chief problems with the prequels are:

-CGI abuse
-Sloppy editing
-Really really horrible cringe worthy dialogue/acting in several scenes
-massive plot inconsistencies with the original trilogy
-Storyline was not coherent. It felt like each film was disconnected and Lucas came up with half an idea and just left it like that and the big highlight, The Clone Wars, isn't even depicted in the prequels at all! The end of Episode 2 shows that the War is about to begin and then Episode 3 opens and its like "ok gang we got count dooku the wars over!". Its just all over the place.
 

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