SPOILERS: The Mandalorian Season 2 Discussion

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Now I want to see Palpy vs Grogu

You’re gonna have to settle for Vader v obi: the middle chapter

Yes, that was when I said here comes Luke! My daughter said no way, it won't be him. But when I saw the green, I was like, here we go!

Yeah I don't get that one at all. Part of me feels like he only took the job just to work on the new filming tech.

I still think Favreau was the main guy still. Filoni has said Jon would send him scripts before he had a chance to read the one he was already sent. Favreau also said he had a bunch of the scripts done before he ever worked for Disney. I do think Filoni is a huge influence on the series. And that is why this works. Unlike the prequels where everyone was just a yes man to Lucas. This seems to be a true collaboration. Jon's not afraid to say, yeah, that really makes sense for the story so let's do it. Favreau is smart. He knows Filoni is the last real bridge to Lucas and his ideas.

I don't get this at all. Why would anyone turn on a moment they have been waiting to see for over 30yrs? It wasn't perfect for sure. But it also isn't a 250 million blockbuster film. So for the medium it came from, I was actually blown away at how good it was. Personally I hope we see more deep fake Luke. It makes perfect sense for the story.

After I watched the show for the third time...I popped on some clown wars and it watched some of the bo kataan episodes.

It’s all filoni...the whole Mando series is really from him and his benefactor George...I just think he’s managed to get the good out of him without the baggage.

Best material since empire if we’re honest. Actually Jedi was a conclusion...the series couldn’t continue due to cost and technical limits...so it did what it could.

 

[Mike S]

One last thought. This shows overall story and the conclusion to this season felt so much like Star Wars I was half expecting the typical credits music of the Skywalker Saga to play at the end. That ending scene just felt so much like Star Wars especially with that last shot.

They really hit this one out of the park.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Soooo good.

Anyhoo, the next season is Dec 2021. The stinger says that "The Book of Boba Fett" is coming Dec 2021. So... the next season will be be a Boba Fett arc.

In a way, the title of the show is ingenious in that any Mandalorian (or, by stint of armor, Mandalorian-adjacent) be *the* Mandalorian.

Maybe they'll be a Bo Katan arc and she's *the* Mandalorian.

Maybe a hundred years from now they'll be another Jedi-Mandalorian who'll unite all the factions. Right Grogu?


On another point: I still see Favreau/Filoni canonizing the canon. As much as some want the prequels or the sequels erased, everything ever canon gets cemented in with the F&F providing more backstory, and explanation, and interconnectedness.

Gideon wants *order*. It's is *first* priority...

 

[MisterPenguin]

 

[Sharon&Susan]

Soooo good.

Anyhoo, the next season is Dec 2021. The stinger says that "The Book of Boba Fett" is coming Dec 2021. So... the next season will be be a Boba Fett arc.

‘The Mandalorian’ Eyes Start, Spinoff, Casting & Boba Fett Buzz – Deadline

The confusion stems from the level of secrecy in the Lucasfilm camp. But persistent chatter could explain the discrepancy — that another Mandalorian-related project/spinoff, I hear possibly a Boba Fett miniseries, would film first, starting next week or later this month, with The Mandalorian Season 3 production coming after that.

 

[MisterPenguin]

‘The Mandalorian’ Eyes Start, Spinoff, Casting & Boba Fett Buzz – Deadline

That was last month's rumors.

What we got this week was:

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1. Season 3 of the Mandalorian would be in Dec '21.​

2. "The Book of Boba Fett" is coming Dec '21.​

It's not hard to imagine that whispers of a Boba Fett series was presumed to be a spin-off rather than the focus of the next season. There's already "Ahsoka" and "Rangers of the New Republic" spin-offs in the works.

I mean, it's *possible* that in Dec of 2021 there will be a third season of Din's Mandalorian in addition to a short series or D+ film about Boba. But if they want to continue telling Din's and Boba's stories, it just seems easier to fold both arcs into the next season. Sort of like Khalisi's arc was separated in Games of Thrones for several season.

 

[BasiltheBatLord]

I don't get this at all. Why would anyone turn on a moment they have been waiting to see for over 30yrs? It wasn't perfect for sure. But it also isn't a 250 million blockbuster film. So for the medium it came from, I was actually blown away at how good it was. Personally I hope we see more deep fake Luke. It makes perfect sense for the story.

I’m just gonna give my opinion once and then dip from this thread cause I’m too old to spend time arguing about Star Wars on the Internet anymore.

I just find it really frustrating how despite the vastness of the SW universe and its potential for all kinds of new and different stories, we still see fan service crammed into every single piece of Disney-produced media. Not everything has to be tied into the movies somehow.

The blueprint for a good Star Wars future is so obvious to me. Use the franchise as a template and explore a variety of different stories and styles. A great example of this is Joker. That film was just a psychological drama which happened to take place in the DC universe. The universe ultimately wasn’t relevant, it was just a good story on its own. I want to see Star Wars comedies, crime dramas, noir, even abstract experimental Star Wars movies.

Skirting around/occasionally touching the movies is fine, but it’s really annoying when a new and fresh series like Mandalorian starts off great but then devolves into pure fan service/fan fic writing in its second season, bringing back dead characters, unnecessary cameos from film characters etc.

 

[LSLS]

I'm old enough to remember the arguments about how those old die hard star wars fans just hated anything new in star wars and would never accept anything Disney would do. I dont think those fans have stopped wiping tears and clapping. You know you've done something amazing when you have brought the 2 sides of star wars together. That was just amazing. They just pulled at every emotion. You can attack the cgi of a TV show all you want. It was luke freaking skywalker, I dont care. And now they have added a 6th new star wars show (again, how freaking amazing was that reveal?). So much for fatigue.

 

[Joesixtoe]

Waited 30 something years for this... thanks Fav and Fil

 

[flynnibus]

When he asks “are you a jedi?”
Luje should have answered “I am THE jedi”

or a dangerfield “i get no respect response “. I kill the sith, save the galaxy, andbno one knows who i am?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

One last thought. This shows overall story and the conclusion to this season felt so much like Star Wars I was half expecting the typical credits music of the Skywalker Saga to play at the end. That ending scene just felt so much like Star Wars especially with that last shot.

They really hit this one out of the park.

Weird...I could hear it in my head too...namely the Jedi end credits which was the best Johnny williams arrangement of the 3

They didn’t do the “good bad and ugly” typical credits music...I noticed. It would have been inappropriate with the kid leaving. The team on this show gets it. I only think some of the people working on revenge of the Sith and Gareth Edwards has on any feature after ROJ...

Soooo good.

Anyhoo, the next season is Dec 2021. The stinger says that "The Book of Boba Fett" is coming Dec 2021. So... the next season will be be a Boba Fett arc.

In a way, the title of the show is ingenious in that any Mandalorian (or, by stint of armor, Mandalorian-adjacent) be *the* Mandalorian.

Maybe they'll be a Bo Katan arc and she's *the* Mandalorian.

Maybe a hundred years from now they'll be another Jedi-Mandalorian who'll unite all the factions. Right Grogu?


On another point: I still see Favreau/Filoni canonizing the canon. As much as some want the prequels or the sequels erased, everything ever canon gets cemented in with the F&F providing more backstory, and explanation, and interconnectedness.

Gideon wants *order*. It's is *first* priority...

Filoni has really expanded on HIS canon. Not so much with the Disney stuff. I know we are never gonna agree on the level of success/failure of their “new” stuff...but I still say that some box office receipts did NOT accomplish what Disney wanted and they are all but officially wiping the slate on that. Look at the shows announced? They don’t touch that sequel era with a 100 foot pole. They known. Maybe some day they try to “soften” it as the prequel era is being done more recently...but that’s tough.

They tried to swap out the core characters with “modern” copies in plain view of the fans. If could never work. They played with fire and got completely burned. Disney knows it. I’m not burning them in effigy...but it probably would be warranted if I wanted to as a core fan.

I'm old enough to remember the arguments about how those old die hard star wars fans just hated anything new in star wars and would never accept anything Disney would do. I dont think those fans have stopped wiping tears and clapping. You know you've done something amazing when you have brought the 2 sides of star wars together. That was just amazing. They just pulled at every emotion. You can attack the cgi of a TV show all you want. It was luke freaking skywalker, I dont care. And now they have added a 6th new star wars show (again, how freaking amazing was that reveal?). So much for fatigue.

All “we” ever wanted was something that was adventure and wasn’t cynical about the story and characters.

George tried. He’s just a BAD director. You heard that right...he’s a bad one. He directed one good movie and it’s name was American Graffiti.

And after the years of interviews and behind The scenes docs....it’s really evident he knew it and resented it. But he was a great idea/story guy. The characters of Star Wars were genius for their time. People forget just how strange and awesome darth Vader or princess Leia’s Persona was at the time. Raiders is genius by itself.

So fav and fil seemed to have - finally - managed to simplify the formula enough to just let it breathe. It’s a gift...frankly. It’s been elusive to Hollywood for 25 years.

Waited 30 something years for this... thanks Fav and Fil

Amen, Reverend

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

When he asks “are you a jedi?”
Luje should have answered “I am THE jedi”

or a dangerfield “i get no respect response “. I kill the sith, save the galaxy, andbno one knows who i am?

But that wouldn’t have been correct. The Jedi are the “emissaries” of the force. They are the outlets, not the backbone.

THAT is how it should be...it wasn’t broke, don’t “fix” it.

I’m mad all over again about those god awful movies

 

[erasure fan1]

I’m just gonna give my opinion once and then dip from this thread cause I’m too old to spend time arguing about Star Wars on the Internet anymore.

I just find it really frustrating how despite the vastness of the SW universe and its potential for all kinds of new and different stories, we still see fan service crammed into every single piece of Disney-produced media. Not everything has to be tied into the movies somehow.

The blueprint for a good Star Wars future is so obvious to me. Use the franchise as a template and explore a variety of different stories and styles. A great example of this is Joker. That film was just a psychological drama which happened to take place in the DC universe. The universe ultimately wasn’t relevant, it was just a good story on its own. I want to see Star Wars comedies, crime dramas, noir, even abstract experimental Star Wars movies.

Skirting around/occasionally touching the movies is fine, but it’s really annoying when a new and fresh series like Mandalorian starts off great but then devolves into pure fan service/fan fic writing in its second season, bringing back dead characters, unnecessary cameos from film characters etc.

First off, why dip? I wouldn't call this arguing, it's a discussion forum, it's what we do. I agree with everything you said in this post. I have said for many years before Disney ever bought star wars, that they should stay away from doing the sequels. Back when knights of the old republic game came out. I had watched an interview with the writer of the game. He said somethingaboout star wars that I completely agree with. When asked why so long in the past, he said because of freedom. Aside from following a few rules of the universe, you do not need to worry about contradicting what's come before. You can tell a fresh story and make it your own.

So do I wish we would explore new parts of star wars? Yes I do. But right now they are correcting the wrongs that have happened in my opinion. If the sequels would have been done properly, we would have been able to move beyond. But until faith is restored, I don't think introducing a new era for star wars would go over very well. So my hope is we see some new ideas in these familiar projects, that can lead us down a new story path.

 

[FutureCEO]

The thing about the new movies made by Disney. They were already made into Star Wars movies in the 70's and 80s. At least, Lucas tried something different in the 90s, although Revenge of the Sith was the worst of the 3.

It's time to get past the whole small band of rebels defeat the big bad Empire whose stormtroopers miss every target. Though it is called Star "Wars"

 

[doctornick]

Anyhoo, the next season is Dec 2021. The stinger says that "The Book of Boba Fett" is coming Dec 2021. So... the next season will be be a Boba Fett arc.

In a way, the title of the show is ingenious in that any Mandalorian (or, by stint of armor, Mandalorian-adjacent) be *the* Mandalorian.

Maybe they'll be a Bo Katan arc and she's *the* Mandalorian.

Sorry but I disagree. I would be surprised if Book if Boba Fett isn’t a separate show from The Mandalorian season 3. I think the post credit stinger was just meant to be a cool complete surprise might like the Child’s appearance at the end of the first show.

No reason they can’t have two Star Wars shows at the same time. They might even crossover too which would world better if they are simultaneous. Also the Boba show might actually be a movie or miniseries as we don’t really have details.

Anyhow, this reflects my thoughts:

It Makes No Sense For 'The Book Of Boba Fett' To Be 'The Mandalorian' Season 3

There's a big debate in the Star Wars community as to whether or not The Book of Boba Fett has the bounty hunter taking over The Mandalorian in season 3. Here's why that's unlikely.

www.google.com

 

[21stamps]

Finally had time to watch the finale.
WOW.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Sorry but I disagree. I would be surprised if Book if Boba Fett isn’t a separate show from The Mandalorian season 3. I think the post credit stinger was just meant to be a cool complete surprise might like the Child’s appearance at the end of the first show.

No reason they can’t have two Star Wars shows at the same time. They might even crossover too which would world better if they are simultaneous. Also the Boba show might actually be a movie or miniseries as we don’t really have details.

Anyhow, this reflects my thoughts:

It Makes No Sense For 'The Book Of Boba Fett' To Be 'The Mandalorian' Season 3

There's a big debate in the Star Wars community as to whether or not The Book of Boba Fett has the bounty hunter taking over The Mandalorian in season 3. Here's why that's unlikely.

www.google.com

I see your link and call...

‘The Book of Boba Fett’ might be the third season of ‘The Mandalorian’

The Mandalorian season 2 ended with its eighth episode on Friday, December 18th. At the end of the episode, something called The Book of Boba …

bgr.com

The Internet is currently awash in this debate.

 

[21stamps]

Why does Mando have a mustache if he can never take off his helmet? What would be the point of him having one and shaving weekly?

This is exactly what I said last week.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I’m just gonna give my opinion once and then dip from this thread cause I’m too old to spend time arguing about Star Wars on the Internet anymore.

I just find it really frustrating how despite the vastness of the SW universe and its potential for all kinds of new and different stories, we still see fan service crammed into every single piece of Disney-produced media. Not everything has to be tied into the movies somehow.

The blueprint for a good Star Wars future is so obvious to me. Use the franchise as a template and explore a variety of different stories and styles. A great example of this is Joker. That film was just a psychological drama which happened to take place in the DC universe. The universe ultimately wasn’t relevant, it was just a good story on its own. I want to see Star Wars comedies, crime dramas, noir, even abstract experimental Star Wars movies.

Skirting around/occasionally touching the movies is fine, but it’s really annoying when a new and fresh series like Mandalorian starts off great but then devolves into pure fan service/fan fic writing in its second season, bringing back dead characters, unnecessary cameos from film characters etc.

You're not alone. A few reviews have already criticized the fact that Mandalorian was great because it told a new story on the outskirts of Star Wars, only to suddenly feel a need to tie into the larger Skywalker saga.

I'm personally good with how they used Luke here. Yeah it's fan service, but it's logical that Luke would be the only one who could and should swoop in to take Gorgu away. Ending the key relationship of the series thus far in a fan pleasing way was an almost impossible task, but Luke helped pull it off.

Tying this show to the movies in that small way also makes way more sense than pointlessly tying Han Solo's origin story into the founding of the Rebellion. He was supposed to be an outsider, he was supposed to be a scoundrel. That's what made his character arc so great in the original movie, but the character has been neutered to a degree starting with the infamous "Greedo shot first" edit.

I feel a lot of people argue whether or not any given piece of "fan service" is good or bad based on how they feel about the show as a whole. A lot of people complained bringing back Lando in RoS was bad fan service because they don't like the trilogy. They say bringing back Fett is good fan service (complete with word for word quotes from AotC to emphasize the nostalgia) because they like the current show. Who is really to say which is better use of a classic character?

 

[erasure fan1]

I feel a lot of people argue whether or not any given piece of "fan service" is good or bad based on how they feel about the show as a whole. A lot of people complained bringing back Lando in RoS was bad fan service because they don't like the trilogy. They say bringing back Fett is good fan service (complete with word for word quotes from AotC to emphasize the nostalgia) because they like the current show. Who is really to say which is better use of a classic character?

Lando in RoS was disliked because it was shoved in for little reason other than, whoops, we killed everyone else off, what do we do now that everyone is mad at how we treated the original characters. Hey Lando isn't dead, let's use him! As I and others have said, if Lando was a plan, he would have shown up in last Jedi. Fett makes sense because one, it's a show about Mandalorians. And two, it answers a question a lot of fans had with the character. Yes, better is a subjective thing for sure. In my opinion better is the one who takes the time to respect the character. The sequels didn't respect ANY of the original characters so the fan service fell flat. The Mandalorian absolutely respects EVERYTHING that has come before it. So in my eyes the fan service was earned. That's what the better use is to me.