Everything they’re doing with Star Wars is so dumbed down. Like they’re trying to put your brain asleep.
But your assessment in all these threads is mostly just "Disney Star Wars Sucks, Iger Sucks, Kennedy Sucks, they ruined a money making franchise, get rid of them", after 25,000 posts of that we get it. Even on this page alone you've said some variation on these in every post. Do better.
Its not written by Orson Welles, its Star Wars. Its a popcorn flick Saturday afternoon franchise. It doesn't have to be some smart franchise that makes you think, heck none of the OT made you think.
Go back to talking past me…and everyone else…and get to your shift.
Different thread, same deluge of nonsense.
How cute…you want to get the three other posters still peddling the excuses and we can have a little party?
That's great, I have no issues with that attitude. The problem is when people do critique something and are told they're wrong. Especially in a series like Acolyte when the storytelling is criticized, you get bombarded with negative pushback. When I'm not sure how anyone can defend it. I don't call people out when they criticize something like Michael Bays storytelling in transformers. Why? Even though I enjoy the movie I can understand the issues. So when there are valid complaints, and are told no, you're wrong. It comes off as shilling.
You don’t understand Star Wars…it appears
I’ll say this again…it’s about the label.
The thing though is that its human nature to defend the things you like, even if the majority of others say you're wrong, and vice-versa. So just because some counter your critiques doesn't make your critiques any less valid even if they disagree with you, just like their opinions aren't less valid just because they like something that you critique. What we've lost in this era of social media and fandom is the ability to accept that its fine to have a difference of opinions, that not everyone has to like or dislike something just because you're a part of the fandom. That is the issue I've seen on this site and other sites likes especially over the last few years. Many (not saying you) can't accept that people can like X that Disney puts out because "everyone must hate it because that is how I feel and if you don't feel the same way you're not being honest or willing to accept the truth and so are a shill".
Or maybe I understand Star Wars better than you want to admit.
Oh I know it's human nature to defend what you love. I do it all the time. Disagreeing is fine. But what I'm really talking about is, someone might love six flags. They might just like it better than Disney, I know a few. You can have that opinion, 100%. I'm not going to agree obviously, but if that's what you like, have at it. But have the integrity to say, yea I know it's crazy and I know It's just me. If you sit there and say no, you're wrong six flags is better and your opinion is absolutely wrong. That's where the problem is.
I think you're asking too much of people. You're literally asking them to say what they like/love is inferior to something else, that is very hard for people. That might be something you can accept, but that is not something the vast majority of people can accept. Its very easy to be critical of something when you don't like it, its hard to do the same when its something you actually like/love, even when the majority says you're wrong. This is usually when people dig in their heels and defends even harder because now it a matter of pride because many are saying they're wrong.
Yes that is 100% who he said it was made for. Now wether he wanted it to or not, it resonated with a lot more than than that. And I believe that needs to be taken into consideration. But for the most part, I don't think that really matters all that much. There should never be an issue making something for kids, and keeping it engaging for teens and adults. Walt Disney, Jim Henson and many others have been able to thread that needle. I'd say Favreau did a great job with that.
I don't know. I think most just want good stories. When George said the prequels weren't liked by fans because they saw the originals when they were 10. The issue I have with that, is the OT didn't have fart and poop jokes. The OT didn't really play down to the 10 or 12yr old group. I really don't think that's an issue with Disney star wars though. My honest feeling is, keep it for kids. I don't really think it needs to necessarily "grow up". At this point in the life of star wars, there should be room for both. I know this is easier said than done but you need quality stories, good writers, that feel like star wars.
Yes, but you have some like SirWalt here who think George didn't intend it for kids and he only started lying and saying it was when people became critical of it. And on that I call BS, it was always for kids as he himself said. As for threading the needle I think it does for some shows and not so much for others, more on that below.
Andor for example I don't think was written for kids, that was clearly written for Star Wars adults. So I think they do find ways to make SW content for all different kinds of audiences. Its just that shows like Acolyte which is clearly suppose to be more geared toward kids gets an unfair label as being "dumbed" down because its not as sophisticated as Andor. Now yes the writing could have been a whole lot better. But it is meant for a younger audience, and should be viewed through those eyes rather than trying to blame it for being something its not.
I think you both have gone a long way around of just trying to say 'objectivity' - the ability to separate yourself or personal beliefs/stake from your assessment. It's that simple.
