SPOILER: The Acolyte -- Disney+ Star Wars -- begins June 5, 2024

[MisterPenguin]

As down as I am on the sequels, I never thought for a second they'd de-canonize it. The best I, or anyone who is down on it, can hope for is that they clone wars it. Mando has seemed to be trying to, and hopefully the movie will help. At this point though, it's probably just best to leave a sleeping dog lie and move to 200yrs ahead, or go complete old republic.

I'm sure the Acolyte story will finish up as part of the High Republic books.

Remember when SW "fans" were calling for the de-canonization of the sequel trilogy, and Pro and Doomcork and gang were constantly fielding rumors that a de-canonization was coming (along with KK being fired), according to their sources?

Filoni single-handedly cemented the canonicity of the sequels with every SW D+ series. Especially filling in the gap of "somehow Palpatine returned."

So, I'm with you. De-canonization is off the table.

 

[erasure fan1]

Honestly I'm ok if they want to stay in the High Republic era this show was set in, lots of story to tell there. While I liked the story overall, it obviously didn't resonate with others. So they need to find a way to continue in this era with a more compelling story for the masses.

The only problem I have with the high republic is Yoda. He's the top dog in this time period, so there will always be the distraction of, where's Yoda? He should be there... I think it would just work better to separate from the "Skywalker saga" characters.

 

[erasure fan1]

I'm sure the Acolyte story will finish up as part of the High Republic books.

I think that's a given. Either a novel, or my guess a limited comic run. There's no way this series could be continued as a live action anything. But as much as I didn't like it, and I tried, I watched it twice. If you did like it, or are interested in the story, you should get the answers.

 

[Disney Irish]

The only problem I have with the high republic is Yoda. He's the top dog in this time period, so there will always be the distraction of, where's Yoda? He should be there... I think it would just work better to separate from the "Skywalker saga" characters.

I don't have an issue with stories from that era being told with Yoda involved, Acolyte appeared to be going there with its last episode. In fact I would love to know more about him, where he came from, his species, etc. We sort of started to get that with Grogu, and hopefully we learn more in the movie.

High Republic is an era that, despite this series, should be an easy bridge to sell between old school fans that like and want to remain in the Skywalker Saga and fans that want to leave that story and see something new.

 

[erasure fan1]

High Republic is an era that, despite this series, should be an easy bridge to sell between old school fans that like and want to remain in the Skywalker Saga and fans that want to leave that story and see something new.

You would think so. My thought is this. After last Jedi and rise of Skywalker you need to leave that timeframe alone for a good long time. Same with acolyte. It's too divisive now. Let it rest and come back to it later. There's plenty of timeframes you can go to. Of course I have a bit of a motive wanting my Revan old republic story.

with Yoda involved, Acolyte appeared to be going there with its last episode. In fact I would love to know more about him, where he came from, his species, etc

No offense but, heck no. Lol

Just leave Yoda alone. Keep the mystery of the character. I think baby yoda is brilliant for giving back story on the species, little snip its so we can sort of put the puzzle of him together while leaving the mystery intact.

 

[doctornick]

One thing I was disappointed about with this series is that it was too close in time to the main films. I was expecting/hoping for something literally centuries if not millennia prior. I guess they couldn't get their token cameos in then though.

 

[Phroobar]

This is how Yoda handled the Acolyte.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

They don't need Skywalkers or any legacy characters to have success. They just need to create new characters that are cool and people can get invested in.

This is how I feel also, although some of my favorite spin offs have included the legacy characters (clone wars TV series, Solo), others have not (rebels), or only indirectly had them (freemaker adventures, Mandalorian).

It all boils down to good storytelling, that’s as true for Star Wars as it is Marvel, Pixar, Disney, etc… who the story is about is far less important than how the story is told.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Just FYI:

3 out of 7 weeks, The Acolyte did manage to get into Nielsen's Top Ten. And Nielsen did reveal that The Acolyte just barely got beat out of the Top Ten one week.

So... 4 out of 7 weeks in the Top Eleven.

Compared to other SW series, not very good.

Compared to most streaming series... pretty good.

I just don't want to hear "no one watched it."

Less watched it. But not no one.

Middle ground does exist.

 

[Disney Irish]

You would think so. My thought is this. After last Jedi and rise of Skywalker you need to leave that timeframe alone for a good long time. Same with acolyte. It's too divisive now. Let it rest and come back to it later. There's plenty of timeframes you can go to. Of course I have a bit of a motive wanting my Revan old republic story.

I just think it would be a good bridge between the new and old. And if done right it would be engaging and wouldn't be divisive.

And honestly it doesn't appear like they are leaving even the Skywalker Saga era anytime soon, even if not telling direct Skywalker related stories.

I have no doubt they'll get to the Old Republic in live action at some point soon. But I just think the High Republic is an interesting time period to continue telling stories in.

No offense but, heck no. Lol

Just leave Yoda alone. Keep the mystery of the character. I think baby yoda is brilliant for giving back story on the species, little snip its so we can sort of put the puzzle of him together while leaving the mystery intact.

And no offense, but I can't be the only one that wants to see more of Yoda's backstory on screen, and I would bet my life I'm not. You don't necessarily need to give away the entire mystery, but you can reveal a bit more. How cool would it be to see a series set in the High Republic showing Yoda starting as a young Padawan and end with him getting on the High Council. That would still leave a lot of his life a mystery but still give a lot of backstory about his character.

I think so anyways.

 

[BrianLo]

Just FYI:

3 out of 7 weeks, The Acolyte did manage to get into Nielsen's Top Ten. And Nielsen did reveal that The Acolyte just barely got beat out of the Top Ten one week.

So... 4 out of 7 weeks in the Top Eleven.

Interesting articles out there on The Acolyte out there today. Looks like there's a neat tax angle that Disney could indeed have its figurative cake (an unpopular show with a definite spin) and eat it too (using it as a tax write off by yet again removing its existence) just like they did with Willow.

This is not meant to be a defense of Acolyte post. Just so it isn’t confused as such.

I’m pretty certain there’s simply not much to write off in this scenario. While it wasn’t deemed strong enough to justify a second season, it also didn’t fall completely flat in the same way the likes of Willow or Artemis Fowl did.

Maybe Acolyte did 50% of what they were hoping for and 90% of what was financially viable. If not fully viable. These metrics are somewhat pre-ordained and the Acolyte viewership was not intrinsically ‘abysmal’. So I would be pretty personally surprised if it was written off.

 

[erasure fan1]

I just think it would be a good bridge between the new and old. And if done right it would be engaging and wouldn't be divisive.

Oh I agree. I'm just not sure after acolyte people will be receptive to it. I just think it needs some time to rest. Of course anything could be successful if it's well done.

And no offense, but I can't be the only one that wants to see more of Yoda's backstory on screen, and I would bet my life I'm not.

Oh by no means are you the only one. But there's an even larger contingent that wants no part of it. Especially now with current Disney/Lucasfilm. When it was very heavily rumored back when the "star wars stories" were being announced. Yoda, boba Fett and Solo were all in the running. Fett and solo were fairly even, but Yoda was a definite majority to the don't do it side. Even George was vey anti Yoda backstory, he wanted it a mystery. It would absolutely be the single riskiest project they could take on. I'm not necessarily against having Yoda show up in another story. But I don't want it to be during this current administration.

 

[Disney Irish]

Oh I agree. I'm just not sure after acolyte people will be receptive to it. I just think it needs some time to rest. Of course anything could be successful if it's well done.

Agree to disagree, I don't think it needs time to rest as you can still stay in the same era and just tell a different story. Its just like what they are doing with the other shows/movies.

Oh by no means are you the only one. But there's an even larger contingent that wants no part of it. Especially now with current Disney/Lucasfilm. When it was very heavily rumored back when the "star wars stories" were being announced. Yoda, boba Fett and Solo were all in the running. Fett and solo were fairly even, but Yoda was a definite majority to the don't do it side. Even George was vey anti Yoda backstory, he wanted it a mystery. It would absolutely be the single riskiest project they could take on. I'm not necessarily against having Yoda show up in another story. But I don't want it to be during this current administration.

I disagree, I think many in the fandom want more Yoda backstory than you believe. Just by the reaction/reception that Grogu got shows that a majority of the fandom wants to know more about Yoda and his species. I don't feel its untouchable.

As far as the "administration", who are you talking about? Because as mentioned in this thread Kennedy is basically out the door already, I know you don't believe it but its happening. You don't think Filoni/Favreau would do a good job with a Yoda story?

And personally I think if he still owned it George would have eventually gotten around to telling a Yoda story.

 

[TsWade2]

Don't be too surprise that it might be Willowed. Meaning removed from Disney+.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Just FYI:

3 out of 7 weeks, The Acolyte did manage to get into Nielsen's Top Ten. And Nielsen did reveal that The Acolyte just barely got beat out of the Top Ten one week.

So... 4 out of 7 weeks in the Top Eleven.

Compared to other SW series, not very good.

Compared to most streaming series... pretty good.

I just don't want to hear "no one watched it."

Less watched it. But not no one.

Middle ground does exist.

Enough people watched it to cancel it a month after the 1st season ended. Obviously not enough people watched it.

The real thing here is though- the show was so horrible that not enough people purchased Disney+ to warrant the idiotic price tag of the show.

 

[BrianLo]

Enough people watched it to cancel it a month after the 1st season ended. Obviously not enough people watched it.

The real thing here is though- the show was so horrible that not enough people purchased Disney+ to warrant the idiotic price tag of the show.

That’s not how D+ series are funded nor justified. It’s a formula derived from audience viewership in terms of what the service uses to justify purchasing series. By engagement time of its viewers. Existing users do bring in monthly revenue.

It missed its renewal mark by about a third. Based on similarly priced series like Andor and Shogun.

Not being renewed is not remotely in the same wheelhouse as being written off. It would be based on the financial metrics and viewership utilized to justify/budget the series and how much that engagement undershot that mark. Perhaps, if it missed its viewership justification by 80%, but we’re talking 50 million minutes viewed and not the rough average of 300 that it commanded. It likely would have been renewed at 400 million and their ‘hope’ to call it a raging success was probably 500-600.

There’s too much brand damage to maybe write off 20 million to dump it from the service. We haven’t even seen Disney write off the Marvels or Strange world for those reason. Plus, there’s technically a whole lot more to write off in both of those productions cases. It’s just ridiculous YouTubers talking out their rears.

 

[BrianLo]

A good frame of reference. Content engagement minutes for Indy 5 were about 1 billion minutes before it falls off the charts. Its production was paid 120 million for the streaming rights. Acolyte engagement is about 2 billion minutes prior to its cancellation. TV productions probably aren’t acquired/justified in the exact same wheelhouse, but it gives a good metric of where they were at against its 180 million budget and why there is nothing to write off.

 

[Phroobar]

Just FYI:

3 out of 7 weeks, The Acolyte did manage to get into Nielsen's Top Ten. And Nielsen did reveal that The Acolyte just barely got beat out of the Top Ten one week.

So... 4 out of 7 weeks in the Top Eleven.

Compared to other SW series, not very good.

Compared to most streaming series... pretty good.

I just don't want to hear "no one watched it."

Less watched it. But not no one.

Middle ground does exist.

"Let's strive for mediocracy." - Bob Iger

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

A Star Wars show was cancelled. That's brand damage. Too much, too fast, mediocre content.

 

[Willmark]

No matter how some may try to spin it, the Acolyte was a flop.

The majority of SW fans did not like it enough to continue watching. People can argue about “not real fans” all they want. Doesn’t erase the facts.