SPOILER: The Acolyte -- Disney+ Star Wars -- begins June 5, 2024

[erasure fan1]

Well maybe in this case you're more of an outlier than you realize.

Touche. That is true.

My overall opinion, and its the reason why you don't see me rage posting here, life is too short. If you don't enjoy it, so be it, move on and find something else. I rather post about the things I like than spend cycles of my life posting about why I hate/dislike something.

I agree. That's the funny part, I wasn't raging over it. I was actually sticking up for it for the most part and giving it the benefit of the doubt by reserving my judgement till I had seen the whole show.

 

[Disney Irish]

Oh I guarantee you have something to say if during a discussion if someone says, if only Andor was as well put together show as she hulk. You aren't the person to just let that slide on by.

Here's where I see it a bit different. Star wars came out in the 70s. It's never had a problem gaining new generations of fans. This "shrinking of original fans" narrative seems to be a Disney manufactured thing. Go back to before Disney purchased lucasfilm. I'm not sure how many star wars events you went to. But in all my comic conventions, toy shows, star wars events like star wars weekends, star wars nights at sporting events... One thing that always amazed me was how many new young fans there always were.

I know it gets poo-pooed a lot around here. But before the sequels I was seeing plenty of kids at my kids Halloween parades as luke, vader, Leia, storm troopers, boba Fett, Jedi... We're talking about generations of kids interested in a nearly 50yr old franchise. I'm not saying you never do anything new. You just don't need to change the fundamentals of star wars in order for it to gain a new audience. Especially when the old audience was stronger than ever before the sequels. The force awakens proves it. If the fan base was at all shrinking, that movie does not hit as hard as it did in my opinion.

My point was that you don't just make content for the 30+ yr old male market only as that poster was saying. How they want to capture the younger generations is the part that can be debated, I think the Young Jedi Adventures series is pretty good, but you don't just stop making content for every other market.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Problem with that is that is also a shrinking market.

There is a reason why Disney is been releasing a bunch of SW cartoons over the last few years, like Young Jedi Adventures. Unless you really think they made that specifically for 30+ yr old males....

The ironic thing is I think it's the SW shows intended for the adult audience that are the ones struggling. The cartoons have been fairly well received, it's the live action shows like Obi Wan, Bobba Fett, the Acolyte, etc that are struggling to find an audience.

I'm an old guy and I prefer the cartoons to anything they've made recently (Mandalorian being the lone exception). I've watched every episode of the Clone wars, the Freemaker adventures, SW Rebels, SW Resistance, the bad batch, the Tales of the Jedi, etc... I have no idea what audience the new live action shows are meant to appeal to though, they are changing them too much to appeal to the OG audience but they aren't really connecting with kids either... it feels like they're just throwing everything at the wall hoping something will stick with someone.

 

[erasure fan1]

My point was that you don't just make content for the 30+ yr old male market only as that poster was saying. How they want to capture the younger generations is the part that can be debated, I think the Young Jedi Adventures series is pretty good, but you don't just stop making content for every other market.

That's the question. I'm of the mindset that the formula wasn't broken. Star wars was very universal. It didn't matter, male, female, young, old and everything in between. It does skew more male, but that never stopped women from enjoying it. The key is quality storytelling and focusing on the key components of star wars. The look and feel, the themes... You can broaden the base without, I guess you could say, going after that base. It's a very fine line that I think Favreau navigated great in the first two seasons of Mando.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

There’s some twatter blips out there that kath is sticking around…

Let’s all pray and rejoice

 

[Disney Irish]

There’s some twatter blips out there that kath is sticking around…

Let’s all pray and rejoice

I'll believe it when its actually reported in the main stream and not on some Twitter post. As we inch closer to the end of the year it'll come out if its true, or nothing will happen and she'll retire as expected.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'll believe it when its actually reported in the main stream and not on some Twitter post. As we inch closer to the end of the year it'll come out if its true, or nothing will happen and she'll retire as expected.

I don’t believe it…but I’ll keep the ears up

The gyst of it is: “since multiple projects are in production…she CANT leave now”

That’s like page 1 of the lame @$$ iger excuse book


ONLY
I
CAN
DO
IT
!!!!!!

 

[Disney Irish]

I don’t believe it…but I’ll keep the ears up

The gyst of it is: “since multiple projects are in production…she CANT leave now”

That’s like page 1 of the lame @$$ iger excuse book


ONLY
I
CAN
DO
IT
!!!!!!

There is only one rumor I've seen, and its from that doofus that calls himself a "Pro", is that she wants to retire (change from his previous claims that she was getting fired for the last 6 years) and that the only reason she'd stay on a short term basis beyond her contract is to go out with a win.

 

[DKampy]

I’m sorry

The Truth should have this day and every day

Opinions are not facts…. All films and TV series are subjective…. Just cause someone get’s enjoyment from media that you don’t does not make them wrong

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

There is only one rumor I've seen, and its from that doofus that calls himself a "Pro", is that she wants to retire (change from his previous claims that she was getting fired for the last 6 years) and that the only reason she'd stay on a short term basis beyond her contract is to go out with a win.

KK could retire 10 years from now and people will be screaming "I told you so!".

 

[easyrowrdw]

There is only one rumor I've seen, and its from that doofus that calls himself a "Pro", is that she wants to retire (change from his previous claims that she was getting fired for the last 6 years) and that the only reason she'd stay on a short term basis beyond her contract is to go out with a win.

I was off these boards for a few years, but one thing I remember from before was that guy saying the Kennedy was about to be fired

 

[Disney Irish]

I was off these boards for a few years, but one thing I remember from before was that guy saying the Kennedy was about to be fired

Any day now.....

 

[MisterPenguin]

Any day now.....

Based on inside sources...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Opinions are not facts…. All films and TV series are subjective…. Just cause someone get’s enjoyment from media that you don’t does not make them wrong

Failing Star Wars is a fact with Dire economic consequences for the Walt Disney company

Bobby and kath have lost billions of potential and very much needed revenue on that property…


Anything else, Professor?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I was off these boards for a few years, but one thing I remember from before was that guy saying the Kennedy was about to be fired

Any day now.....

Those were the dweebs that did sci-fi channels/vlogs…if you’ll recall?

Pro ran with that (in error)

Nobody would have been surprised if KK was fired as far back as 2018…but it never really computed as “probable”

Same as when chapek “took over”…except we know now he never did

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

That's the question. I'm of the mindset that the formula wasn't broken. Star wars was very universal. It didn't matter, male, female, young, old and everything in between. It does skew more male, but that never stopped women from enjoying it. The key is quality storytelling and focusing on the key components of star wars. The look and feel, the themes... You can broaden the base without, I guess you could say, going after that base. It's a very fine line that I think Favreau navigated great in the first two seasons of Mando.

This is why I always ask “who’s the intended new audience?” when they put out new Marvel shows, new Star Wars shows, new Disney shows, etc that don’t follow the established formulas that have historically made them the most beloved brands in their genres.

These are brands that already appeal to everyone, the idea they need to change the formula (that made them the most successful brands ever) to appeal to a “new audience” is ludicrous.

 

[Disney Irish]

Those were the dweebs that did sci-fi channels/vlogs…if you’ll recall?

Pro ran with that (in error)

Nobody would have been surprised if KK was fired as far back as 2018…but it never really computed as “probable”

Same as when chapek “took over”…except we know now he never did

Except the people here who wanted Kennedy out believed Pro and parroted that fake rumor over and over in thread after thread as if it were true and about to happen, for the last 6 years. Its why several of us keep bringing it up every time discussions about Kennedy's contract comes up. She'll leave when she is ready to, and until otherwise announced that appears to be at the end of the year.

And I would have been surprised if she was fired in 2018, but lets not rehash the last 6 years over again.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

She'll leave when she is ready to, and until otherwise announced that appears to be at the end of the year.

And I would have been surprised if she was fired in 2018, but lets not rehash the last 6 years over again.

I don’t think she’s going to be given the option this time, in 2018 Lucasfilm had stumbled a bit but her extensive track record was still in her favor, in 2021 when she was up for extension again I think she was saved solely by the Mandalorian… I don’t think she has anything to save her this time to justify an extension, it’s been years since they’ve had a successful SW movie or SW D+ show… I’ll be absolutely shocked if she isn’t gone at the end of this contract, whether by her choice or Disneys doesn’t really matter, Star Wars needs a new vision though, hers clearly isn’t connecting with the audience.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

It's pretty obvious the vision is to announce as many projects as possible that never actually happen. In that regard, she's been amazing.

 

[Disney Irish]

I don’t think she’s going to be given the option this time, in 2018 Lucasfilm had stumbled a bit but her extensive track record was still in her favor, in 2021 when she was up for extension again I think she was saved solely by the Mandalorian… I don’t think she has anything to save her this time to justify an extension, it’s been years since they’ve had a successful SW movie or SW D+ show… I’ll be absolutely shocked if she isn’t gone at the end of this contract, whether by her choice or Disneys doesn’t really matter, Star Wars needs a new vision though, hers clearly isn’t connecting with the audience.

I know many will disagree but she has enough cachet to get another contract extension if she wanted it. The question is does she want to remain or does she just want to retire, I guess we'll see at the end of the year but all previous reports were she was planning on retiring.

My opinion is she'll retire and Filoni will become the next head of Lucas officially.