SPOILER: The Acolyte -- Disney+ Star Wars -- begins June 5, 2024

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Who knows, for all we know it could get worse. But that's a chance I'll take. I've seen what she brings to star wars, I don't need to see anymore. Now to be fair, I don't really trust Iger to make that kind of hire. So I'd say let Favreau finish the mando film, then put star wars on ice until they find a new head of Lucasfilm. They have no plan anyway. It's all a bunch of throw stuff against the wall and see if something sticks. So I'd rather have no content then the, we have no clue what we want to do content we have right now.

I guess my question is, what do people expect to happen if she stays? I think we're at the point where, what's the definition of insanity, applies.

Sadly this is how I feel about much of Disney right now, until we have new leadership and a better vision I’d rather they do nothing rather than waste stories, land, and resources on new shows, rides, ships, etc that aren’t to the same quality as old Disney.

The television/movie side bothers me far less than the physical side, movies can be easily remade but we’ll likely be stuck with the questionable rides/lands/ships for the rest of our lives.

We all want shiny new things but if the new is inferior to the old we’re better off sticking with the old.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Rumours or suggestions to de-canonize things generally come from people who think that something they didn't like should just magically be erased. If they applied this approach to Star Wars we'd be left with two movies.

Regardless, there's no reason to de-canonize this series that I can think of. It's a prequel that likely doesn't impact any other stories they want to tell. It didn't establish anything that would be now considered an important part of Star Wars lore.

It's not like the novels, where so much happened including the death of key characters, that they had to jettison it lest any new movies be highly restricted.

 

[Disney Irish]

Rumours or suggestions to de-canonize things generally come from people who think that something they didn't like should just magically be erased. If they applied this approach to Star Wars we'd be left with two movies.

Regardless, there's no reason to de-canonize this series that I can think of. It's a prequel that likely doesn't impact any other stories they want to tell. It didn't establish anything that would be now considered an important part of Star Wars lore.

It's not like the novels, where so much happened including the death of key characters, that they had to jettison it lest any new movies be highly restricted.

Agreed, perfect example is all those rumors of Disney working to de-canonizing the ST. Nothing could be further from the truth. Not only are they not de-canonizing them, they are actively working to bridge the gap between the PT/OT and the ST via some of these new stories.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

Finally finished the season. Had some cool fight scenes and nice visuals but it couldn't make up for the bad story, characters and writing.

I'm pretty down on SW as a whole right now. Thankfully we at least get Andor season 2.

 

[Jedijax719]

LFL's ability to produce stories from outside the Skywalker time period pretty much lived and died on this show which failed miserably. I am not sure whether this will impact stories such as the Jedi beginnings, but it certainly paints a somber picture of SW future. I'm not sold on the idea of a Mandalorian/Grogu movie and as far as we know, the Rey movie is far from being in production any time soon.

These are definitely dark times for SW. Even in the era after ROTJ, had they announced movies in the last 80's or early 90's, people would have gone crazy. Now, absolutely NO SW announcement is generating even the most remote and miniscule amount of excitement or hype. Not sure what it will take for SW to be any kind of presence any more. Maybe if they promise to have Han and Luke together, use high tech methods and got Ford and Hamil on board, it MAY generate some good will.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Rumours or suggestions to de-canonize things generally come from people who think that something they didn't like should just magically be erased. If they applied this approach to Star Wars we'd be left with two movies.

I agree. You can’t just pretend things don’t exist.

But while we’re on the subject of movies, does anyone know when Episode 9 is finally gonna come out? I feel like we’ve been waiting a long time.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

LFL's ability to produce stories from outside the Skywalker time period pretty much lived and died on this show which failed miserably. I am not sure whether this will impact stories such as the Jedi beginnings, but it certainly paints a somber picture of SW future. I'm not sold on the idea of a Mandalorian/Grogu movie and as far as we know, the Rey movie is far from being in production any time soon.

These are definitely dark times for SW. Even in the era after ROTJ, had they announced movies in the last 80's or early 90's, people would have gone crazy. Now, absolutely NO SW announcement is generating even the most remote and miniscule amount of excitement or hype. Not sure what it will take for SW to be any kind of presence any more. Maybe if they promise to have Han and Luke together, use high tech methods and got Ford and Hamil on board, it MAY generate some good will.

They don't need Skywalkers or any legacy characters to have success. They just need to create new characters that are cool and people can get invested in.

 

[Tha Realest]

First it should be noted that Disney hasn't officially said they were removing Acolyte from D+, at least as far as I'm aware. This is just some articles saying that it might be something that Disney might do now that its been cancelled in order to get a tax write off, or more likely so they don't have to pay residuals, as they did with Willow and other shows they recently pulled off the service.

Legends products, while de-canonized, are still generally produced and made available for legal consumption. I can still go out and buy new physical or digital copies of tons of Legends works, like the original Thrawn trilogy novels or the like.

Where can I legally acquire or stream the Willow series?

 

[Disney Irish]

Legends products, while de-canonized, are still generally produced and made available for legal consumption. I can still go out and buy new physical or digital copies of tons of Legends works, like the original Thrawn trilogy novels or the like.

Where can I legally acquire or stream the Willow series?

But they haven't even announced it would be removed, or for that matter even quietly removed it. This was all speculation based on some site pondering if Disney would remove it. And that still doesn't mean it'll be de-canonized even if it is removed from the service.

As for the Willow series, no where right now. That doesn't mean Disney won't release it again in the future back on D+ or license it to another service.

 

[erasure fan1]

Agreed, perfect example is all those rumors of Disney working to de-canonizing the ST. Nothing could be further from the truth. Not only are they not de-canonizing them, they are actively working to bridge the gap between the PT/OT and the ST via some of these new stories.

As down as I am on the sequels, I never thought for a second they'd de-canonize it. The best I, or anyone who is down on it, can hope for is that they clone wars it. Mando has seemed to be trying to, and hopefully the movie will help. At this point though, it's probably just best to leave a sleeping dog lie and move to 200yrs ahead, or go complete old republic.

 

[Disney Irish]

As down as I am on the sequels, I never thought for a second they'd de-canonize it. The best I, or anyone who is down on it, can hope for is that they clone wars it. Mando has seemed to be trying to, and hopefully the movie will help. At this point though, it's probably just best to leave a sleeping dog lie and move to 200yrs ahead, or go complete old republic.

Honestly I'm ok if they want to stay in the High Republic era this show was set in, lots of story to tell there. While I liked the story overall, it obviously didn't resonate with others. So they need to find a way to continue in this era with a more compelling story for the masses.

 

[MisterPenguin]

As down as I am on the sequels, I never thought for a second they'd de-canonize it. The best I, or anyone who is down on it, can hope for is that they clone wars it. Mando has seemed to be trying to, and hopefully the movie will help. At this point though, it's probably just best to leave a sleeping dog lie and move to 200yrs ahead, or go complete old republic.

I'm sure the Acolyte story will finish up as part of the High Republic books.

Remember when SW "fans" were calling for the de-canonization of the sequel trilogy, and Pro and Doomcork and gang were constantly fielding rumors that a de-canonization was coming (along with KK being fired), according to their sources?

Filoni single-handedly cemented the canonicity of the sequels with every SW D+ series. Especially filling in the gap of "somehow Palpatine returned."

So, I'm with you. De-canonization is off the table.

 

[erasure fan1]

Honestly I'm ok if they want to stay in the High Republic era this show was set in, lots of story to tell there. While I liked the story overall, it obviously didn't resonate with others. So they need to find a way to continue in this era with a more compelling story for the masses.

The only problem I have with the high republic is Yoda. He's the top dog in this time period, so there will always be the distraction of, where's Yoda? He should be there... I think it would just work better to separate from the "Skywalker saga" characters.

 

[erasure fan1]

I'm sure the Acolyte story will finish up as part of the High Republic books.

I think that's a given. Either a novel, or my guess a limited comic run. There's no way this series could be continued as a live action anything. But as much as I didn't like it, and I tried, I watched it twice. If you did like it, or are interested in the story, you should get the answers.

 

[Disney Irish]

The only problem I have with the high republic is Yoda. He's the top dog in this time period, so there will always be the distraction of, where's Yoda? He should be there... I think it would just work better to separate from the "Skywalker saga" characters.

I don't have an issue with stories from that era being told with Yoda involved, Acolyte appeared to be going there with its last episode. In fact I would love to know more about him, where he came from, his species, etc. We sort of started to get that with Grogu, and hopefully we learn more in the movie.

High Republic is an era that, despite this series, should be an easy bridge to sell between old school fans that like and want to remain in the Skywalker Saga and fans that want to leave that story and see something new.

 

[erasure fan1]

High Republic is an era that, despite this series, should be an easy bridge to sell between old school fans that like and want to remain in the Skywalker Saga and fans that want to leave that story and see something new.

You would think so. My thought is this. After last Jedi and rise of Skywalker you need to leave that timeframe alone for a good long time. Same with acolyte. It's too divisive now. Let it rest and come back to it later. There's plenty of timeframes you can go to. Of course I have a bit of a motive wanting my Revan old republic story.

with Yoda involved, Acolyte appeared to be going there with its last episode. In fact I would love to know more about him, where he came from, his species, etc

No offense but, heck no. Lol

Just leave Yoda alone. Keep the mystery of the character. I think baby yoda is brilliant for giving back story on the species, little snip its so we can sort of put the puzzle of him together while leaving the mystery intact.

 

[doctornick]

One thing I was disappointed about with this series is that it was too close in time to the main films. I was expecting/hoping for something literally centuries if not millennia prior. I guess they couldn't get their token cameos in then though.

 

[Phroobar]

This is how Yoda handled the Acolyte.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

They don't need Skywalkers or any legacy characters to have success. They just need to create new characters that are cool and people can get invested in.

This is how I feel also, although some of my favorite spin offs have included the legacy characters (clone wars TV series, Solo), others have not (rebels), or only indirectly had them (freemaker adventures, Mandalorian).

It all boils down to good storytelling, that’s as true for Star Wars as it is Marvel, Pixar, Disney, etc… who the story is about is far less important than how the story is told.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Just FYI:

3 out of 7 weeks, The Acolyte did manage to get into Nielsen's Top Ten. And Nielsen did reveal that The Acolyte just barely got beat out of the Top Ten one week.

So... 4 out of 7 weeks in the Top Eleven.

Compared to other SW series, not very good.

Compared to most streaming series... pretty good.

I just don't want to hear "no one watched it."

Less watched it. But not no one.

Middle ground does exist.