News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[Californian Elitist]

I think it may even have been the last villain song full stop.

Does “Mother Knows Best” count?

 

[UNCgolf]

Because he has the best villain song in a 30 year period, going back to "Be Prepared" through today, and counting.

I was about to argue with you that "Gaston" is a fantastic song, but then I remembered Beauty and the Beast came out before Lion King.

 

[TwilightZone]

I think the top 3 last true disney villains are Facilier, Mother Gothel, and King Candy, with the one closest to "flesh and blood" Disney being Facilier.

 

[LittleBuford]

Does “Mother Knows Best” count?

I meant the last before "Friends on the Other Side"!

 

[Joel]

As such, Facilier is dead by this point.

"Somehow, Facilier returned."

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Hellfire is unmatched. But Friends on the Other Side is about as good as Poor Unfortunate Souls and I even like it more than Be Prepared.

Mother Knows Best is certainly a villain song, especially with the reprisal.

 

[Touchdown]

Whenever Disney goes full on evil witch/wizard they make their best and most iconic villains, and there are 5 who stand out:
-Evil Queen
-Malnificent
-Ursula
-Jafar
-Dr Faciller

Yes there are other great villains (Cruella, Frollo, Gaeston, etc) but when you hear Disney Villain your mind tends to dwell on these 5.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I meant the last before "Friends on the Other Side"!

Ooohhhh!! Yes, I think you’re right. I can’t think of anything off the top of my head.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Does “Mother Knows Best” count?

Now we're really getting off topic but Meredith Inglesby guest starred as Mother Gothel on the Magic last year and she also did a couple of sets in Fathoms that gave me feelings.

 

[LittleBuford]

But Friends on the Other Side is about as good as Poor Unfortunate Souls

Blasphemy! Ursula and her song are unmatchable.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Splash Mountain is itself a book-report ride.

I think the reason is they didn't want to show Tiana as a frog for most of the ride.

I do hope Facilier puts in an appearance from beyond the grave. The ride needs a moment of drama and tension.

I mean, since the reference material is so far removed from most public awareness, I doubt the majority would see current Splash as a book-report ride (I certainly have never).

But if Disney switched over to a book-report of PATF, it would be very much noticed, and very much criticized.

 

[UNCgolf]

Blasphemy! Ursula and her song are unmatchable.

I actually think Gaston is the best villain song period (in terms of just being an excellent song), but it's also in a bit of a grey zone because while he sings in it, A. he's not really a typical Disney villain and B. it's not about doing villainous things in the context of the plot. It's literally just a song about him in general.

 

[LittleBuford]

I actually think Gaston is the best villain song period, but it's also in a bit of a grey zone because while he sings in it, A. he's not really a typical Disney villain and B. it's not about doing villainous things in the context of the plot. It's literally just a song about him in general.

My guilty secret: I have a crush on Gaston.

 

[Touchdown]

I don’t know, Be Prepared is about fratricide, not many other villains could sing a song about murder with the audience boping along to it in a kids movie. That one has to be #1, and Oogies song is probably #2.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I mean, since the reference material is so far removed from most public awareness, I doubt the majority would see current Splash as a book-report ride (I certainly have never).

Agreed.

But if Disney switched over to a book-report of PATF, it would be very much noticed, and very much criticized.

It's a 12-minute ride, they wouldn't need to linger on the frog parts. All the banger songs are in the beginning anyways.

Down In New Orleans (Tiana is human)
Almost There (Tiana is human)
Friends on the Other Side (Tiana is human)
Gonna Take You There / Dig a Little Deeper (frog)
Down In New Orleans Reprise (human)

 

[LittleBuford]

But if Disney switched over to a book-report of PATF, it would be very much noticed, and very much criticized.

I think it would be criticised only because of the frog issue. The idea that book-report rides in general are bad is a relatively new one that I don't think exists outside certain hardcore fan circles.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I don’t know, Be Prepared is about fratricide, not many other villains could sing a song about murder with the audience boping along to it in a kids movie. That one has to be #1, and Oogies song is probably #2.

Nightmare is SUPER niche. It has a dedicated core of fans but casuals aren't into it and would have no idea who "Oogie Boogie" is.

 

[JohnD]

Whenever Disney goes full on evil witch/wizard they make their best and most iconic villains, and there are 5 who stand out:
-Evil Queen
-Malnificent
-Ursula
-Jafar
-Dr Faciller

Yes there are other great villains (Cruella, Frollo, Gaeston, etc) but when you hear Disney Villain your mind tends to dwell on these 5.

Oogie Boogie

 

[Touchdown]

Why not instead make it so Dr Faclier is stealing the riders soul to regain a body, and Tiana and friends are trying to help you avoid that fate by bringing you to Mama Oodie via the bayou (explained in queue and lifts.). The ride starts out with Goin Down The Bayou and Rays relations (How Do You Do,) transitions to a Lewis section (Laughin Place,) but Faclier kicks us and Lewis into the brambles (drop) incapacitating Lewis (Brer Bear alligator) and separating us from the group for Friends on the Other Side (Laughin Place) only for Mama Oodie coming to save us last lift and drop) with the finale room being Down Here in New Orleans (reprise.)

Remember when riders were part of the story?

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Given I've ridden it pre and post 2015, I can only say that the change to projections from wall movement didn't result in any noticeable difference in the ride. Still one of the bumpiest rides at DL.

"Bumpy" and "Unreliable" are very different complaints.