News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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thomas998

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"Bumpy" and "Unreliable" are very different complaints.
Generally I would agree... though if you look at the cars and all the hydraulics that make the fake bumps, those complications are going to increase downtime. Everything that gets added on to any ride increase the probability of it malfunctioning and going down.
 

thomas998

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Splash Mountain is not closing for Scheduled Maintenance this coming January - it is closing permanently to begin the transformation into Tiana's Bayou Adventure.
Not sure what your point is, I was responding to someone asking why they couldn't skip scheduled maintenance on a ride. Had nothing to do with whether they are closing for a refurb or not.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Generally I would agree... though if you look at the cars and all the hydraulics that make the fake bumps, those complications are going to increase downtime. Everything that gets added on to any ride increase the probability of it malfunctioning and going down.
You seem to have gotten away from your own point here . . .
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Not sure what your point is, I was responding to someone asking why they couldn't skip scheduled maintenance on a ride. Had nothing to do with whether they are closing for a refurb or not.
The point is that in the specific case that poster was referring to (Splash Mountain) there is no scheduled maintenance on the calendar, so introducing that hypothetical in this situation is confusing and unneccessary. I responded both to you and to that original poster clarifying that "scheduled maintenance" is no longer a thing in the case of WDW's Splash Mountain.
 

IronRod

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Just wanted to share this. I read the blog entry and saw that the newly released artwork is intended to be the first show scene after we drop down into the showbuilding. From the image Disney shared, this may potentially involve partial if not full re-build of the sets, as if this scene is placed on the first "bend" in the attraction, there isn't any room there currently.

(The "tunnel" before the fishing pond has a CM/Emergency walk way that comes out a little, right up on the trough on the right hand side, there would be no room for it as is.)

But then I thought about it for a bit, the dock in the image looks similar to the one that the three geese are standing on a little further into the show building. The issue is, this dock is on the RIGHT hand side of the track, while in the new image it's on the left. So I went ahead and mirrored the image out of curiosity:


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The frogs in the image are situated where the bullfrogs on Splash are now. The same with the dock. If true...then I wonder why the image was revealed mirrored. I hope I explained that in a way that makes sense.

Now of course, this is likely me WAY overthinking it, and Disney intends on doing a full or partial gut. Just random speculation on my part.
What you said makes complete sense. I think you’re 100% right. I was trying to understand where that scene was occurring. I was thinking maybe it was right as you go inside, but that angle wouldn’t give you enough time to appreciate the animatronics.
 

Buried20KLeague

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Just wanted to share this. I read the blog entry and saw that the newly released artwork is intended to be the first show scene after we drop down into the showbuilding. From the image Disney shared, this may potentially involve partial if not full re-build of the sets, as if this scene is placed on the first "bend" in the attraction, there isn't any room there currently.

(The "tunnel" before the fishing pond has a CM/Emergency walk way that comes out a little, right up on the trough on the right hand side, there would be no room for it as is.)

But then I thought about it for a bit, the dock in the image looks similar to the one that the three geese are standing on a little further into the show building. The issue is, this dock is on the RIGHT hand side of the track, while in the new image it's on the left. So I went ahead and mirrored the image out of curiosity:


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The frogs in the image are situated where the bullfrogs on Splash are now. The same with the dock. If true...then I wonder why the image was revealed mirrored. I hope I explained that in a way that makes sense.

Now of course, this is likely me WAY overthinking it, and Disney intends on doing a full or partial gut. Just random speculation on my part.

This will be correct. I thought the same thing when I saw that dock and where it’s positioned in that scene.

No chance…. Absolutely no chance…. Are they doing anything with the trough.

They’re not gonna move that DOCK, let alone the trough. Lol. This is a redressing of the ride and nothing more.
 

Buried20KLeague

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Which makes sense when the timeframe from closure to reopening is under 2 years.

Well beyond that…. I wouldn’t know this for certain but that building was engineered around the weights and stresses of that trough. If you move that trough, you change those stresses.

Plus the most obvious point… There would be no storytelling reason that would make a trough change mandatory. If they can tell a story about catching a dinosaur and about Indiana Jones with the same ride path…
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Which makes sense when the timeframe from closure to reopening is under 2 years.
I still wonder if they'll meet the deadline. Maelstrom to Frozen took a similar amount of time, just a couple months shy of two years. Granted, Frozen did slightly extend/alter the track right before the lift (I assume Splash's track isn't being altered), which might have extended the timeline. But on the other hand, the Frozen overhaul was otherwise very lackluster and basic. They gutted all of the interior scenes and didn't really put much back in afterwards, it's a lot of minimally detailed flat walls and video projection. If Tiana is supposed to be a more impressive and physically detailed overhaul, I wonder if it'll make 2024.
 
I think people should keep an open mind in regards to the storyline of the ride.

Especially since everyone has been begging for some non ip rides and more original concepts.

While this is based on current ip it sounds like an original story concept.

Therefore this could be considered as a middle ground between ip use and unique storytelling.
 

gobstoper27

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Nightmare is SUPER niche. It has a dedicated core of fans but casuals aren't into it and would have no idea who "Oogie Boogie" is.
This made me chuckle as it's very true. We just did a nightmare b4 Christmas cake smash photo session for my soon to be 1 year old. Our photographer mentioned that she didn't know the the guy wearing the sack and kept calling him Boo Man. Lol
 

Kirby86

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I think people should keep an open mind in regards to the storyline of the ride.

Especially since everyone has been begging for some non ip rides and more original concepts.

While this is based on current ip it sounds like an original story concept.

Therefore this could be considered as a middle ground between ip use and unique storytelling.
I get it however if you want to do an original attraction you have to commit to it. If you are makeing a ride using an IP that people already know you set an expectation of what people who are fans of the material want. It's the reason why Frozen in EPCOT while technically a sequel still has all the hits from the original movie.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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How about you don’t, because they might just merge Frontierland and Liberty Square into one Old America-themed area.
Disneyland's ride will mostly fit seamlessly into New Orleans Square. WDW's version is going to look VERY out of place unless there are some alterations to the immediate surroundings. WDW's Splash Mountain was modified to help it fit the Frontierland setting (scrapping the swamp setting, using red clay on the exterior, music remixed to country/bluegrass etc). This had the double benefit of also making WDW's superior to Disneyland's IMO. Tiana however isn't getting these sorts of alterations to help it fit. The Riverboat is the only thing that will look correct in the immediate area.

IMO, redoing Pecos Bill's is probably all they need to do to correct the most glaring issue with the ride's placement, being shoved in between two western environments. That restaurant is rather large and wraps around the corner reaching into Adventureland, so the coverage of this change would be both substantial yet also not really encroach on much beyond tha. No need to mess with Country Bears, that's suitably far enough away that it wouldn't clash.
 
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JoeCamel

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So "late 2024"....
Does anyone think they will open this in December - January?
There is a reason water rides have their yearly maintenance in January/February and the water parks are closed.
See you in the springtime...,..
 
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