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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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BubbaisSleep

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It's been mentioned that the main flume drop will be intimidating to younger children, does anyone know if Imagineering is doing anything to lessen that perceived peril making it appear less intense? Would they employ some type of inversed force perspective at ground level? Or strobe lights to create the illusion of moving in slow motion? I don't think it likely, but I wonder if Imagineering has thought of making such changes.
They're placing a tall water tower with a crown on it to make the mountain appear smaller than it is.
 

Bocabear

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It's been mentioned that the main flume drop will be intimidating to younger children, does anyone know if Imagineering is doing anything to lessen that perceived peril making it appear less intense? Would they employ some type of inversed force perspective at ground level? Or strobe lights to create the illusion of moving in slow motion? I don't think it likely, but I wonder if Imagineering has thought of making such changes.
That would be ridiculous. The ride is popular and well loved for it's tall flume drop. There is no way to actually make the tall drop less intense nor would anyone really want to. Changing the drop to be less intense would involve completely rebuilding the ride which they are not doing... Now if they want to build a less intense water ride for toddlers, then that would be something in addition to the landmark ride that already exists...if kids are afraid of the drop there is always Pirates of the Caribbean and Small World for them to enjoy.
 

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Long-Forgotten
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That would be ridiculous. The ride is popular and well loved for it's tall flume drop. There is no way to actually make the tall drop less intense nor would anyone really want to. Changing the drop to be less intense would involve completely rebuilding the ride which they are not doing... Now if they want to build a less intense water ride for toddlers, then that would be something in addition to the landmark ride that already exists...if kids are afraid of the drop there is always Pirates of the Caribbean and Small World for them to enjoy.
That WOULD be ridiculous. Which is why I didn't suggest it. I asked if Imagineering had considered making it look less intimidating via visual techniques. But I can see the confusion. My ability to type a coherent sentence diminishes when sleep deprived. I didn't see the need of course, but did wonder they'd do anything to make it seem less intense for the littleuns.
 
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Bocabear

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That WOULD be ridiculous. Which is why I didn't suggest it. I asked if Imagineering had considered making it look less intimidating via visual techniques. But I can see the confusion. My ability to type a coherent sentence dimishes when sleep deprived. I didn't see the need of course, but wondered if they'd do anything to make it seem less intense for the littleuns.
I do think MK could use another water based ride... Always hoped they would do a flume ride, mostly indoors, based on Pocahontas...Just Around The Riverbend sequence...but I think now that IP has issues... but it would sure be nice in the expansion around the ROA...
 

Trauma

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Right and upset those who want to ride it one more time. But, hey, they're just rube guests. What do they know?
They are already slapping their guests in the face by shuttering one of the great themed attractions of all time.

Why stop there?

After all it’s kind of fun watching this company destroy itself.
 

EagleScout610

Owner of a RKF - Resting Kermit Face
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The final lift hill won't be as scary at least. I spotted Mama Odie's colored bottles inside the cave on the model, so I would guess the trek up to the top will be more upbeat and happy compared to the foreboding music and visuals that are currently there. There also won't be a briar patch at the base anymore, just swamp grass. Though there's probably not much you can do to alleviate children's fears at the peak and during the drop. I also very strongly hope they don't use strobe lights, they won't even work in the daytime. And they're even more likely to induce nausea and disorientation than not at night, it would also pose an ugly distraction to the scenery.
If you pay attention to how Splash was advertised vs. TBA. What was the focus in every Splash ad, and the main thing discussed beside the critters? The drop. It was the main draw to the ride and had an air of almost reverence in the ads.

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Now look, in comparison, at how Tiana's is being advertised: Tiana, the band, critters, Louis, New Orleans, Mardi Gras. Not once have they mentioned the 50 footer at the end of the ride. I'm guessing the drop will he going from "The culmination of the story and Ultimately escaping evil for a happy home sweet home" to "Woah wasn't that drop into the Bayou fun? Thanks Mama Odie"

Now how they're gonna pull THAT off I have no clue. Again, if they had indicated a threat of ANY sort, be it Facilier or not, instead of a happy happy ride through New Orleans it might be slightly easier.
 

Tha Realest

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If you pay attention to how Splash was advertised vs. TBA. What was the focus in every Splash ad, and the main thing discussed beside the critters? The drop. It was the main draw to the ride and had an air of almost reverence in the ads.

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Now look, in comparison, at how Tiana's is being advertised: Tiana, the band, critters, Louis, New Orleans, Mardi Gras. Not once have they mentioned the 50 footer at the end of the ride. I'm guessing the drop will he going from "The culmination of the story and Ultimately escaping evil for a happy home sweet home" to "Woah wasn't that drop into the Bayou fun? Thanks Mama Odie"

Now how they're gonna pull THAT off I have no clue. Again, if they had indicated a threat of ANY sort, be it Facilier or not, instead of a happy happy ride through New Orleans it might be slightly easier.
Put aside the wisdom of changing this ride - it really is a head scratcher that they decided to shoehorn a princess that appeals to the under-10 female set into one of the more imposing thrill rides in the park.
 

drizgirl

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I never even considered that they might try to downplay the drop. I think it would be a huge mistake, and just emphasize the fact that they are shoehorning a theme this ride wasn't designed for.
 

LittleBuford

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Now look, in comparison, at how Tiana's is being advertised: Tiana, the band, critters, Louis, New Orleans, Mardi Gras. Not once have they mentioned the 50 footer at the end of the ride.
I suspect one of the reasons for this is that the drop is now so iconic that it doesn’t need to be advertised. It’s also the one part of the ride experience that’s going to stay largely unchanged.
 

JoeCamel

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I suspect one of the reasons for this is that the drop is now so iconic that it doesn’t need to be advertised. It’s also the one part of the ride experience that’s going to stay largely unchanged.
"Its Star Wars do we really need to advertise?" Bob...

Why yes Bob you do...
 

Tha Realest

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I mean, it's impossible to get in line for it and not see the drop. Kind of like Tron going outside to show the seats and speed.
Did you read the post I quoted, and those that preceded it? They discussed some attempts to minimize 1) the drop, or 2) guests awareness of it.
 

Purduevian

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Did you read the post I quoted, and those that preceded it? They discussed some attempts to minimize 1) the drop, or 2) guests awareness of it.
I think the discussion was just that the marketing didn't seem to discuss the drop nearly as much as the Splash Mountain marketing did. I was simply stating that no one is getting on the ride that didn't see the drop.

Unless you are like my grandpa and somehow sat on big thunder thinking it was the WDWRR
 

Tha Realest

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It's been mentioned that the main flume drop will be intimidating to younger children, does anyone know if Imagineering is doing anything to lessen that perceived peril making it appear less intense? Would they employ some type of inversed force perspective at ground level? Or strobe lights to create the illusion of moving in slow motion? I don't think it likely, but I wonder if Imagineering has thought of making such changes.
The final lift hill won't be as scary at least. I spotted Mama Odie's colored bottles inside the cave on the model, so I would guess the trek up to the top will be more upbeat and happy compared to the foreboding music and visuals that are currently there. There also won't be a briar patch at the base anymore, just swamp grass. Though there's probably not much you can do to alleviate children's fears at the peak and during the drop. I also very strongly hope they don't use strobe lights, they won't even work in the daytime. And they're even more likely to induce nausea and disorientation than not at night, it would also pose an ugly distraction to the scenery.

I think the discussion was just that the marketing didn't seem to discuss the drop nearly as much as the Splash Mountain marketing did. I was simply stating that no one is getting on the ride that didn't see the drop.

Unless you are like my grandpa and somehow sat on big thunder thinking it was the WDWRR
🤷‍♂️
 

EagleScout610

Owner of a RKF - Resting Kermit Face
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Did you read the post I quoted, and those that preceded it? They discussed some attempts to minimize 1) the drop, or 2) guests awareness of it.
To me it reads as they're gonna market the drop as less of "Heart stopping, thrilling, adrenaline rush filled plunge that you take to escape from Br'er Fox who's about to skin Br'er Rabbit for dinner", and more of "Oh that silly Mama Odie just sent us on a fun drop into the briar patch swamp" to make it more marketable to children
 

SpectreJordan

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Put aside the wisdom of changing this ride - it really is a head scratcher that they decided to shoehorn a princess that appeals to the under-10 female set into one of the more imposing thrill rides in the park.
To be fair, the original mascot for the ride is a cute bunny rabbit instead of some serious action hero or something like that.
 
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