afar28
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Anything to make more money I guess..
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Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts IV
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Soarin' Over Pgh
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luv
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I very much miss the thrill of seeing Christmas stuff in stores. It was such a treat when it came out during Christmas season. The decorations, music and heartfelt "Merry Christmas"es were all so cheerful.
Now, they put it out in October and mumble "Happy Holidays" if you're lucky.
I so miss the Christmas season being happy and special. I think today's kids have missed out on that.
Now, they put it out in October and mumble "Happy Holidays" if you're lucky.
I so miss the Christmas season being happy and special. I think today's kids have missed out on that.
TowerOfTerror
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It's the shortest Christmas shopping season on record, 6 less shopping days than last year. You know how money hungry these companies are trying to feed those wall street traders.
I'll agree on on the second part 100%, nobody should be out shopping on Thanksgiving.
Goofyernmost
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I was in a mall in Raleigh today. No Christmas music but the mall was fully decorated. To early, but in the retail business, you snooze, you loose. It's driven by competition. Yet the evil empire of Walmart is not yet fully set up for Christmas. Go figure.
Animaniac93-98
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Toy Story the musical is one of those things that could only happen with an Iger-run Disney. It's an example of trying to leverage a "brand" across as many channels as possible for promotional purposes with no regard for how well it works in a particular format. Throw in a weak song score and an overused property and everyone walks away disapointed.
It's why Newsies on Broadway works, but Toy Story on the musical stage doesn't. One actually has the basis for a stage adaption (tone, content, structure), the other does not.
Too bad they won't try original content again for DLC shows (Ghost Ship anyone?).
GoofGoof
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On the earnings call today someone asked about expanding the cruise line and adding more ships. The answer was that they were not considering new ships at this time and that they don't feel there are enough desirable destinations outside of the ones already covered. They mentioned the possibility of the Asian market opening up but it's not suitable for a family cruise at this time.
Funmeister
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sweetpee_1993
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LOL! That's funny. Funny because nooooo other cruise lines are making aaaaaany money outside Nassau, Eastern & Western Caribbean, and Florida. LOL!
GoofGoof
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They could cruise past Somalia and see some real Pirates
. Well this is Disney we are talking about. Saying they aren't considering it probably means that they have already started construction on 2 new ships.
71jason
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I mean, it's funny because it's true ... but this is probably a way of spinning that (1) a lot of regular cruisers avoid DCL for its imagined flaws (most of which I think are not true), and (2) a lot of DCL guests still want to pair their cruise with a stay at WDW.
novawildcat18
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To respond to an earlier, but passed over, comment, there will not be an expansion of the DCL fleet anytime in the foreseeable future.
truecoat
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Yeah, at Target last year, I personally saw two employees led into the building with guns to their heads.
MinnieM123
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To expect retail workers to report to work on Thanksgiving is horrible. Something I saw on the local news last year was just as bad, if not worse.
There was a large line of people lined up outside a major retailer, waiting for the store to open at some ridiculously early hour in the middle of the night (for those Black Friday "must have" deals). So, a mother walks over to her teenaged son in the the queue. She hands him his Thanksgiving dinner in a disposable pan covered in tin foil—while the kid is sitting on the concrete sidewalk. The reporter, interviewing people in line, asks her if this is how her family "celebrates" Thanksgiving, and she replied, "Oh yes! My son's in line to get a great price on a large, flat screen tv, so that our whole family can enjoy it!!"
At what point in time, did our basic priorities get so distorted?
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Pretty soon Thanksgiving and Christmas will just be two more 'holidays' for State, Federal and Union workers the rest of us will be working just like any other day - There is a reason Greed is one of the 7 deadly sins and the current devolution of Thanksgiving is just an example writ large.
I live near a small city < 30,000 people and I remember when a Holiday meant that the town was CLOSED for business, Used to go out and enjoy the quiet city, Now it's just another day at the mall.
In our family adults no longer exchange gifts - we are disgusted at what the holidays have become and refuse to participate any longer we used to really enjoy setting up decorations and lights but no longer even bother with a tree still go to worship but eschew the commercial side of holiday
It's telling 'A Christmas Carol' was a cautionary tale which too few listened to, It was not a misanthropic curmudgeon who killed the Spirit of the holidays, It was 'The Organization Man' in their bland grey suits, they have managed to ruin Thanksgiving and Christmas with their Inverse Midas Touch. It's telling since this trend began that Christmas sales have been flat to slightly down, I do not think our family is the only one eliminating the holiday from our lives.
Perhaps i'll just celebrate Diwali with my Hindu friends - suits have not figured out how to destroy that yet.
Nemo14
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We still do our tree and Christmas Eve church, but we've cut down significantly on presents, and instead plan special events we can all do together. I print up special invitations to these and pass them out on Christmas Eve. Last year, for instance, we rented our city's municipal pool for 2 hours on a Sunday afternoon and had our own private pool party - in January! It was great fun, and the weather cooperated, although we were shoveling snow the week before. My husband and I plan a trip together as our gift to each other, and our (adult) kids have taken to contributing something to surprise us on that trip as their gift to us.
I think Thanksgiving and Christmas are what you make of them, and the optimist side of me still believes in the Spirit without commercialism.
I think Thanksgiving and Christmas are what you make of them, and the optimist side of me still believes in the Spirit without commercialism.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Now family just gets together to eat and tell stories.
We believe in the Spirit as well - adults in our extended family give to charity what we would have spent on gifts but how the Holiday's have been overcommercialized over the past 15 or so years truly makes me ill. Yes the holidays have always had a commercial component. But it's now a sickness and we refuse to participate.
As a kid I loved the trains around the tree and have a set of my own - but now the only way to win the holiday game is as WOPR stated 'is not to play' and Black Friday for us is generally 'Buy Nothing Day' not even a coffee.
asianway
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And even though there have been black Friday deaths, they still stoke the flames.
Pro tip - the best deals are usually online before Black Friday, anyone who actually leaves the house that day is a sucker.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Perhaps more people should STAY HOME for Black Friday and help nip this in the bud, WallyWorld is open all day thanksgiving and it looks like Target is planning to open at 5PM on thanksgiving - This is beyond disgusting.
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