Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts IV

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Disneyhead'71

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People have a nasty habit of placing the fryers on a porch or under an overhang and then dropping fully frozen turkeys into the oil.
Ding, Ding, Ding....Good answer.
Not too shocking, too much time with too many family members for some.:cry:
You would be surprised how many people don't really care for some of their family members. Old people with guns and young people with loud mouths combined with America's favorite past time of getting ****-faced makes for a busy news day.
 

Cesar R M

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Or get an oiless, infrared turkey fryer like I did. Safe, don't have to deal with the cost (and hassle in disposing) oil, and the product comes out crispy and moist.
and hows the taste? never hard of a infrared turkey fryer in my whole life o_O

infact, im gonna google it right now!
 

tribbleorlfl

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and hows the taste? never hard of a infrared turkey fryer in my whole life o_O

infact, im gonna google it right now!
Really good. You get the same exact color, and don't lose the seasoning and juices into the oil. Instead, they drip into the bottom for AWESOME gravy. Another positive, product cooks in about a 1/3 of the time.

They came out a couple years ago, made by Charbroil. Lowe's gets them in every holiday season. Mine, I actually got at Big Lots same exact model as the Charbroil, it was just branded to Thermos and was $50 less.
 

Cesar R M

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Really good. You get the same exact color, and don't lose the seasoning and juices into the oil. Instead, they drip into the bottom for AWESOME gravy. Another positive, product cooks in about a 1/3 of the time.

They came out a couple years ago, made by Charbroil. Lowe's gets them in every holiday season. Mine, I actually got at Big Lots same exact model as the Charbroil, it was just branded to Thermos and was $50 less.
id have to search on the local costcos and sams´s club, Mexico doesnt get that much food gadgets as americans :(
 

ford91exploder

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I work in retail as well and didn't even bother asking off for the needed time to spend with my family at the holidays because I knew it was useless. All my manager cares about is getting that godforsaken dollar. I live five hours away from home and all she was willing to give me for Christmas Day was travel time on the 24th (so I have to work 1/2 day), the full day on the 25th, and travel time to come back on the 26th (I've got to work that night). I'm going to miss Christmas with all three of my great-grandparents (who likely won't be around next year due to failing health) and Christmas at both my grandparent's homes. I guess I should be thankful that I have a job, but family always has and always will be the most important part of my life. Too bad that has been tossed to the wayside by society.

THIS is precisely the scenario which makes me ill and why we no longer buy holiday gifts, Having the ability to shop on a holiday for a gift is not worth the damage it does to families of retail workers.
 

Lord_Vader

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Ding, Ding, Ding....Good answer.

You would be surprised how many people don't really care for some of their family members. Old people with guns and young people with loud mouths combined with America's favorite past time of getting ****-faced makes for a busy news day.

Seen it first hand in a hot tub at our resort a couple Christmas' ago with a teenaged girl throwing a fit, raging mad at her parents and grandparents because they forced her to spend time with them during the Christmas holidays while her BF was back at home suffering without her.
 

ford91exploder

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Ding, Ding, Ding....Good answer.

You would be surprised how many people don't really care for some of their family members. Old people with guns and young people with loud mouths combined with America's favorite past time of getting ****-faced makes for a busy news day.

And people getting drunk is driven by constant alcohol advertising, Drink X and you will have a good time and be surrounded by beautiful people.
 

novawildcat18

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Family isn't that important to some people. It's all relative, just because someone doesn't value family time or maybe doesn't really even have a family doesn't mean that you should put them down for wanting to earn more money by working on the holidays.

From a consumer point of view, I think Black Friday (or now is it Black Thursday?) is fun. I consider it quality time that I spend with my family and friends waiting around and playing games and talking. Of course, this is not the case for everyone, but that is why I enjoy the festivities of Black Friday.
 

Lord_Vader

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THIS is precisely the scenario which makes me ill and why we no longer buy holiday gifts, Having the ability to shop on a holiday for a gift is not worth the damage it does to families of retail workers.

IMHO most of the larger items purchased on Thanksgiving or Black Friday are not gifts for family but simply items for themselves.

About the only things we purchase for Christmas after Thanksgiving are cheap Bluray movies and they are not generally purchased as gifts.
 

ford91exploder

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Family isn't that important to some people. It's all relative, just because someone doesn't value family time or maybe doesn't really even have a family doesn't mean that you should put them down for wanting to earn more money by working on the holidays.

From a consumer point of view, I think Black Friday (or now is it Black Thursday?) is fun. I consider it quality time that I spend with my family and friends waiting around and playing games and talking. Of course, this is not the case for everyone, but that is why I enjoy the festivities of Black Friday.

Intent is not to put them down, But for many people since the Holiday is now just a regular business day, they lose the time they once had off and simply get paid a regular wage, Stores are NOT paying double-time any longer. Scrooge would be proud!
 

novawildcat18

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Intent is not to put them down, But for many people since the Holiday is now just a regular business day, they lose the time they once had off and simply get paid a regular wage, Stores are NOT paying double-time any longer. Scrooge would be proud!
Stores aren't paying double-time? Well that's not really fair... I also really dislike the fact that stores are opening this year at 6 PM on Thanksgiving, I think that's absolutely ridiculous. Midnight is better, but I remember when it used to be 4 or 5 in the morning on Black Friday. That was an adventure!
 

Goofyernmost

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You do realize you contradicted yourself right? I've never ever ever seen any news report in the history of me being on this planet showing rioting people in mall parking lots on Thanksgiving because the stores were not open. You yourself support my view that greedy people did not start this and this falls solely on corporations when you explained their "small window" to "make or break it."
Not a contradiction as much as a conflict. Yes, it started as a way to jump start the season and it was an attempt made by a few to fill the registers before others got the chance. I know that no one anticipated the monster that it would become. They created it and now the public feeds it. Many retail stores run in the red all year and the Christmas season is their (pardon the expression) savior. They cannot afford to let others take that money from them, they need it to make their year and the only way that they can stop it is if they all got together and decided that it wasn't worthwhile anymore. Every year they try to get a jump on the competition by opening earlier and earlier. Before we know it it will be held in July.

You also might want to check out the deaths resulting from the People trying to get in the door first or the object first. It is a mob mentality now. I feel very strongly that that was never the intent of the retail stores. A dead person doesn't buy much. The stores are not the ones complaining about it being the day of and after Thanksgiving at all hours, it's the public, yet they are parked out there year after year waiting to pounce.

BTW, I intentionally left out a group of people that have to work on all Holidays just to see if anyone else was going to recognize the fact that we are here talking trash about retail establishment preventing workers from spending time with their families. How many Disney employees (i.e. CM's) get to spend the holidays with their families. Aren't we all ready to go to a Disney resort on Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, Easter and any other holiday we can think of? Do those people not count but we can all get upset about the idea the a retail store requires the presence of their employees on one holiday? Talk about conflict of ideas, huh? Perhaps, we are pointing our judgmental finger in the wrong direction.
 

Goofyernmost

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Intent is not to put them down, But for many people since the Holiday is now just a regular business day, they lose the time they once had off and simply get paid a regular wage, Stores are NOT paying double-time any longer. Scrooge would be proud!
I don't recall them ever paying anything above regular wage. In fact, as I said before a retail clerk received absolutely no pay if they weren't working, so working on the holiday gives them infinity and a half when they are working as opposed to sitting at home.
 

Goofyernmost

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Stores aren't paying double-time? Well that's not really fair... I also really dislike the fact that stores are opening this year at 6 PM on Thanksgiving, I think that's absolutely ridiculous. Midnight is better, but I remember when it used to be 4 or 5 in the morning on Black Friday. That was an adventure!
Yup, welcome to the real world. Many of us, myself included, got so used to the "paid holiday" attitude that by choice, not law, the employer paid because of the holiday situation that we think that it's automatic. This is how it really works. If the company policy is to pay holiday pay, the laws require that employees get paid time and a half for HOURS WORKED over 40 per week. The key wording in that is Hours Worked. Holiday pay doesn't count as hours worked. That means that they would get paid regular time until they have reached 48 hours including holiday time. After that it would be overtime pay. Now if they don't have holiday pay offered by the company they in all likelihood will, due to the additional store opening times, work over 40 hours that particular week. When they do they will be paid overtime after they reach 40 hours that week. There are a lot of scenario's that could jump in there depending on how many hours were worked and when, but lets just say...No, there is not now nor has there ever been a retail setup that paid double time for the holiday. It just seemed that way at times.
 
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Funmeister

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Not a contradiction as much as a conflict. Yes, it started as a way to jump start the season and it was an attempt made by a few to fill the registers before others got the chance. I know that no one anticipated the monster that it would become. They created it and now the public feeds it. Many retail stores run in the red all year and the Christmas season is their (pardon the expression) savior. They cannot afford to let others take that money from them, they need it to make their year and the only way that they can stop it is if they all got together and decided that it wasn't worthwhile anymore. Every year they try to get a jump on the competition by opening earlier and earlier. Before we know it it will be held in July.

You also might want to check out the deaths resulting from the People trying to get in the door first or the object first. It is a mob mentality now. I feel very strongly that that was never the intent of the retail stores. A dead person doesn't buy much. The stores are not the ones complaining about it being the day of and after Thanksgiving at all hours, it's the public, yet they are parked out there year after year waiting to pounce.

BTW, I intentionally left out a group of people that have to work on all Holidays just to see if anyone else was going to recognize the fact that we are here talking trash about retail establishment preventing workers from spending time with their families. How many Disney employees (i.e. CM's) get to spend the holidays with their families. Aren't we all ready to go to a Disney resort on Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, Easter and any other holiday we can think of? Do those people not count but we can all get upset about the idea the a retail store requires the presence of their employees on one holiday? Talk about conflict of ideas, huh? Perhaps, we are pointing our judgmental finger in the wrong direction.

I am aware of how retail works but thanks for clarifying that for those who may not know. What you say is/was true and continues to go away from that thinking now that more retailers offer deals online for cyber Monday. In addition with ebay and Amazon making HUGE strides in offering same day delivery this will continue to entice people NOT to go out to battle mall crowds.

There are actually some retailers who open on major holidays (or what some feel are major) yet do not offer any deals beyond the typical 10% to 15% offered any other day of the year. The internet has changed the way of thinking when it comes to buyers.

Well, we are not talking about Disney. Disney has always had that policy and that was always a condition to working here. The "mob mentality" still does not show how people forced the hands of corporations to start opening on major holidays.

Are you saying that companies are offering a public service to keep people safe by opening on major holidays?

You cannot say that greedy people was the cause then change it to companies needing to make most of their annual revenue during that small window to justifying opening due to deaths by stampede. If I had to pick one I would say greed by the corporation. Once again...please post a link or video showing people rioting because the mall was not open on Thanksgiving morning.
 
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