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Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts IV
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Big C 73
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Darth Sidious
Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
I don't see 2015 being a bloodbath. SW sells and so does Marvel. Plus you have Pirates and Jerry Bruckheimer Cinderella... I can't see that being a bomb largely in part due to cultural fimiliarity. Lone Ranger was not familiar with all demos.
Could happen. Very unlikely. Can't you see the headline: "senate plays in fantasyland while main streets USA still searches for a job". Neither side wants that.
Darth Sidious
Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
Our government asked Disney for advisory post-911 in facial recognition tech.
Don't necessarily disagree with this.
Darth Sidious
Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
Depends, it might but when the proverbial s@&$ hit the fan for Google, most people were unphased. Does that make it right? Not necessarily but a lot of people ignore it when they enjoy the product or don't believe the actions effect their lives significantly. When the government does it, people get more in arms because of politics, governments authority (you choose where you do business but not with the gov) and of course our wonderful media. It's very complex how people handle similar scenarios.
FrankLapidus
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Kind of says it all about my feelings for Avatar when a box with an R2-D2-shaped hole in the side has left me infinitely more excited than anything to do with Pandora ever has.
Big C 73
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I agree with your non disagreement. I like things to be personalized, and I somewhat like Magic Bands on the interactive and planning level. The problem I have with the whole investment is that I do not want it to be to personalized, or a.k.a. "In my business". Like them calling you by your name, that's great it makes me feel special, but on the other hand it feels a bit intruding and creepy. Guest enjoy to be friendly and open up in such a magical place, but when do you start feeling invaded on, watched, and numbered?
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Clamman73
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It's funny that Ricky gets shown the knife right away after he asks that...
OldBill71
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There has also been rumors and photo evidence on Twitter of the MM+ Tests interfering with the current Fastpass System. It at one point resulted in the ability of guests to insert any type of card with a magnetic strip into the Fastpass machine, to receive a Fastpass
Voice of Disney sanity
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Ah, yes but they have been doing that for many years in way more detail the NSA will ever have the ability to do. So why is it all of a sudden a privacy issue. Hasn't it always been? Just because we didn't expect it nor know about it doesn't mean it didn't happen. Even now that I know, I don't care. I don't see how that knowledge is harmful to me. All I ever ask is don't have a camera in the bathroom or bridal suite.
Yes as if the magic bands will actually monitor your movements more than the zillions of cameras that have been doing that at WDW for 15+ years. Yep they saw you pick your nose on splash mountain...yep they saw saw you french kiss your woman on Peter pans flight. and YES they saw you spit off the skyway.
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PRIVACY ALREADY AT WDW except bathrooms and inside your holtel room (IF YOU CLOSE THE CURTAINS)
Black Pearl
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Posted this elsewhere, but here's a video showing a lamp prototype with some magic band interaction:
https://vine.co/v/hhnIDbaYlDM
https://vine.co/v/hhnIDbaYlDM
Goofyernmost
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I don't for a minute think that it isn't a loss of innocence to some people, but, and this must by my age here, where have you all been. This has been going on for years and years.
It started pretty much when the first security systems were introduced and has just evolved from there. If people at this point are "losing their innocence" then they haven't been paying attention for quite a while. The idea that we are being watched is of no concern, or shouldn't be anymore. It has been a part of life for a long while. Did everyone think that those little dark grey bubbles in the ceilings of retail stores were the places that they stored balloons?
So, it is a given that information has been collected and in one way or the other, collated and stored for the last 50 years. That's not important, what is important is what is being done with that information. Back when none of us realized that it was happening, at least on a conscience level, it was very dangerous. We didn't know to ask questions. Now we do, it is way less dangerous then before. I don't care if they can now tell that those that stay in luxury resorts tend to buy more Mickey plush's or use the bathroom closest to Haunted Mansion or tend to eat salads instead of greasy hamburgers. I don't know, what we are afraid of? Is it that all the information will be turned over to the KGB or perhaps McDonalds encouraging them to carry a larger variety of salads? The only people that have a genuine use for that information is Disney and, as I said before, they may be dumb, but they aren't stupid enough to tell the competition what their guests are doing or buying. Hell, they won't even tell us, their fan base, what they are doing or planning. That would or could give competition a competitive advantage without the cost of actually obtaining it. It is not in their best interest to tell the enemy the locations of troop movements. Just makes no logical sense at all.
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Disney is very much showcasing facial recognition systems, in SSE.
Is this all a precursor to being forced to dress in scuba gear and wave?
danlb_2000
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In all this discussion of privacy I haven't seen much discussion of something WDW1974 said in his first post:
"During part of my stay, I got a very close up view of some of the gizmos Disney is using (all Apple tech, silent prayer at the cult of Jobs) for NGE and even was allowed (no, I doubt Georgie will be happy when he reads this) to test the tech and see for myself just how much information will truly be at CMs fingertips. Simply put, a troubling amount."
This is what would concern me, collecting data is one thing, but the bigger issue is who gets access to that data once it's collected.
"During part of my stay, I got a very close up view of some of the gizmos Disney is using (all Apple tech, silent prayer at the cult of Jobs) for NGE and even was allowed (no, I doubt Georgie will be happy when he reads this) to test the tech and see for myself just how much information will truly be at CMs fingertips. Simply put, a troubling amount."
This is what would concern me, collecting data is one thing, but the bigger issue is who gets access to that data once it's collected.
flynnibus
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There is a big difference between recording a crowd, and recording a list of individuals. The technology alters the type of info collected and alters the ease at which the actions of individuals are interpreted... At scale
GoofGoof
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I would be interested in a little more info on this too.
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