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Spirited News & Observations II -- NGE/Baxter
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I can't tell if you're serious. You think Disney hired me to pose as a fan and say positive things about the way the company is run?
This is a Disney fan site, and when a Disney fan actually shows up, conspiracy theories start flying. Unbelievable. Do you recall one page ago when I agreed with your criticism of Expedition Everest? And complimented WWoHP as a "flawless, immersive environment." But you're totally right. I only say bad things about Universal and good things about Disney.
I'd expect much higher growth at DAK itself, but probably a little less at WDW overall.
disney fan 13
Well-Known Member
Spirit needs to get back from vacation and reclaim the asylum...
The Empress Lilly
Well-Known Member
I'm one of those people who <likes> many a post of yours. This does not necessarily mean I agree with (all of) its content. Sometimes you're funny (when you're relaxed and don't mistake a Disney discussion for WWIII
), sometimes you show good insight or even old-fashioned clear mindedness.I can appreciate a good argument without agreeing to it. Apart from that, I haven't waded in because the last few pages have been all over the place, there really are not two sides pitted against each other. It's all been a lot of tiny observations, accountancy sidetracks, misunderstandings, mini-frustrations, personal animosities and friendships. The very untangable nature of it all is why I have abstained, never mind picked sides. Mostly though, by default, I disagree with all of you!
I can try though! Erm...prudent accountancy factors in depreciation as a real cost. (Despite it being forever prone to creative accountaneering). Which makes UNI's numbers look a bit bleak indeed.
So there, help from the sidelines! Sixty posts after the fact!
BryceM
Well-Known Member
Comparing the wait times for Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey to Doctor Doom's Fear Fall? Poseidon's Fury? I believe the hourly capacity for Forbidden Journey is much, much, much higher than these attractions. The line literally doesn't stop moving for more than 10 seconds it seems, unless it breaks down.
I just wanted to point that out.
SirOinksALot
Active Member
It could really use a third thread, considering the Baxter news isn't exactly news and his NGE sources were terrible.
Spirited News & Observations III -- More Topics Than Pages
luv
Well-Known Member
You didn't actually answer the question.I can't tell if you're serious. You think Disney hired me to pose as a fan and say positive things about the way the company is run?
This is a Disney fan site, and when a Disney fan actually shows up, conspiracy theories start flying. Unbelievable. Do you recall one page ago when I agreed with your criticism of Expedition Everest? And complimented WWoHP as a "flawless, immersive environment." But you're totally right. I only say bad things about Universal and good things about Disney.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
He's probably back...just ignoring us
. Some things never change around here.Just for the record if anyone participating in this discussion is a plant for either Disney or Universal you are doing a terrible job and should be fired. One exception is @BryceM. You always make me want to go back to Universal soon. I think I told you this before, but they should be paying you.
Do we have a CPA in our midst?I'm one of the people who regularly <likes> many a post of yours. This does not necessarily mean I agree with (all of) its content. Sometimes you're funny (when you're relaxed and don't mistake a Disney discussion for WWIII
I can appreciate a good argument without agreeing to it. Apart from that, I haven't waded in because the last few pages have been all over the place, there really are not two sides pitted against each other. It's all been a lot of tiny observations, accountancy sidetracks, misunderstandings, mini-frustrations, personal animosities and friendships. The very untangable nature of it all is why I have abstained, never mind picked sides. Mostly though, I disagree with all of you!
I can try though! Erm...prudent accountancy factors in depreciation as a real cost. (Despite it being forever prone to creative accountaneering). Which makes UNI's numbers look a bit bleak indeed.
So there, help from the sidelines! Sixty posts after the fact!
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
Uni gets a pass because they give the impression that they care about their customers, that they are committed to improving their theme park experience. Hopefully you'll acknowledge today's Universal is "better" than it was 5 years ago. Universal is heading in the right direction.
Over the course of about 5 years, WDW has managed to destroy the good faith that took decades to build. As someone who has been visiting WDW as an adult for over 30 years, my opinion is WDW's golden age is in the past. I honestly feel WDW was a better place 5 or 10 years ago than it is today. WDW is heading in the wrong direction.
NFL was a major disappointment for my family. Trumpeted by Iger as the greatest addition to MK ever, it turned out to be 2 overpriced restaurants, 2 meet-and-greets, and 1 ordinary omnimover. We were done with it in 2 hours with no desire to return.
Avatarland could be the start of a turn around but WDW needs more. Until Disney turns WDW around, people will continue to doubt them.
luv
Well-Known Member
So the only answer you're giving is an affirmative one.
disney fan 13
Well-Known Member
Well, we shall see soon what the numbers are. I'm expecting at the very LEAST a 5% increase at IOA and a 4-5% increase at USF due to Parade, DM, Cinematic Spectatular etc... Though this is a worst case scenario...
jakeman
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Because it's a stupid accusation that has become the lowest form of internet discourse, not just here but everywhere.
It's becoming the new Godwin's Law. The longer a discussion progresses the probability that someone will be accused of being a corporate plant approaches 1.
SirOinksALot
Active Member
Right, there are a ton of reasons - people could have gone there first, Dudley, it was hot, etc.
Needless to say though, it became "just another ride" much faster than they were expecting.
I do.
I'm nervous, for their sake, to see if they can sustain it. You can't build Potter phase 3-12 for the next ten years. If Potter is a sustainable increase, I'm happy for them. But I'm skeptical that it might just be a temporary bump.
That's a fair criticism. I might agree on direction, but I don't think it's as severe as you imply. I also think good times are a'comin'.
MK needed sit-down dining. They're still struggling to meet demand. I agree that all WDW dining is overpriced but people are paying it and they're filling the place to do so. I hate meet and greets as well but wait times don't lie. *Shrug*
I think I'm just more optimistic than you.
The Empress Lilly
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I'd wager 15% and up. Which, I agree with Tim, to a large extent will be predatory on WDW's other three parks.
I do expect DAK's guests to stay longer, and spend more. If DAK can be turned into a full-day park, especially by no longer closing at one o' clock in the afternoon, Avatar will toss up many WDW stats.
BryceM
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Haha, aw, I feel flattered.He's probably back...just ignoring us
Just for the record if anyone participating in this discussion is a plant for either Disney or Universal you are doing a terrible job and should be fired. One exception is @BryceM. You always make me want to go back to Universal soon. I think I told you this before, but they should be paying you.
But I certainly don't want to give off the impression that I try to force people to like Universal. I love Disney and Universal both so much. I just wish everyone else could too.But sadly, it doesn't work that way all the time, which is fine! I just really try to vouch for Universal when I feel it's necessary.