Spirited News & Observations II -- NGE/Baxter

baymenxpac

Well-Known Member
I think I paid 10% of that for my AP. April is Renew Your Passes Month in the luv household...and geez, they are getting expensive!

I'm really happy for Uni. They do things so well over there. It's good to see them moving on up. :)

speaking of, they announced today transformers opens june 20th, which...is ridiculously fast. i mean, it's taking disney about the same time to open starbucks locations. not trying to troll, just stating the painstakingly obvious.

Yes, Dave. Enquiring minds want to know!

If they were mean to the handicapped (which I saw first-hand once), I'll help you write the letter! I didn't write one, but I should have. Punk.

CM?
 

asianway

Well-Known Member
Dear CP girl at Soarin.

You don't screw with Handicapped parties.

I understand the rampant GAC abuse but you have to understand that there are people who write letters instead of getting indignent.

Regards.
Would this be something even the union couldnt fight? Sounds like theyre about to learn the hard way CMs cant make up their own policies on the fly.
 

luv

Well-Known Member
speaking of, they announced today transformers opens june 20th, which...is ridiculously fast. i mean, it's taking disney about the same time to open starbucks locations. not trying to troll, just stating the painstakingly obvious.



CM?
Yes, the CM! Not Dave, lol. That was absolutely abut the punk CM and not about Dave. I'm sure Dave got that. I hope. I may call Dave names ;) but was not doing so there.

I'm still waiting for disney to finish FLE and have it all open so that I can compare the time it took for FLE to the time it took for Harry Potter, part I.
 

baymenxpac

Well-Known Member
Yes, the CM! Not Dave, lol. That was absolutely abut the punk CM and not about Dave. I'm sure Dave got that. I hope. I may call Dave names ;) but was not doing so there.

haha sorry, i was making a wrestling joke and didn't even realize the cast member abbreviation tie in!

as long as we are telling CM stories, i have a good one from my last trip. went to get on a boat at POTC in the second to last row and there was legitimately two inches of water on the bottom. i have no idea why. maybe they cleaned it or something? it was only an hour after park opening. so i said to the CM loading the boats, "there's a ton of water in the bottom, can we move back a row?"

"i guess," he responded.

i sit down in the back row and the seat is soaking wet. like, if i had sat for longer than a couple of seconds, my pants would have been completely soaked in the back. i say, "dude, that seat is drenched. can we just wait for the next boat."

"ha i guess," he responded with an attitude. "but you get wet in the front, so if you don't want to be wet." as if i'm complaining about water?

i know CMs get a lot of garbage from annoying people, but there was no one behind us in the queue. i've only been on pirates 950 times in my life, so i guess i could be mistaken, but i don't think any seats get kali river rapids wet, and there's not supposed to be two inches of water on the bottom of the boats. so i just said, "alright there, buddy. i think i can handle it."

it's unfortunate, but in the modern day WDW, sometimes you have to be an advocate for yourself. i'm never going to be rude to someone for no reason, and rarely rude to anyone at all. but i'm not going to get my butt soaking wet at 10:00 in the morning because i was too polite to say something to some hung over college plan broski that drank too many zimas the night before and is ed he has to work.

I'm still waiting for disney to finish FLE and have it all open so that I can compare the time it took for FLE to the time it took for Harry Potter, part I.

and yeahhhhh. after she saw my last trip pictures, someone asked me on fb the other day how new fantasyland was. the best i could muster was "cute." when someone asked me how WWOHP was after i went there, i said "f#$%(n' awesome." big gap there, especially for $400 million and 2 years more.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
speaking of, they announced today transformers opens june 20th, which...is ridiculously fast. i mean, it's taking disney about the same time to open starbucks locations. not trying to troll, just stating the painstakingly obvious.



CM?
I believe CP is an abbreviation for College Program Cast Members. He'll correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure!
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
Couldn't agree more that a loyalty program would be a huge boost for Disney and also a benefit for loyal guests. I brought this up on the original Next Gen thread (or maybe it was this one 200+ pages ago) but the general consensus seemed to be that MyMagic+ would not have a loyalty component to it. It's a shame because they really work and offer guests perks at the same time. I made the analogy to Casino loyalty programs and how I know people who won't stay anywhere but a Harras property in Vegas since they are addicted to the total rewards program. When competition is heating up and Universal is building more hotel rooms now is the time Disney needs a loyalty program. They could easily offer free things like the opportunity to book unique character meals and/or exclusive meet and greets to lower level guests while true "whales" could be offered free or discounted rooms, park tickets or meals.
Thanks GoofGoof...i agree fully with what you are saying here. You sparked my memory with your comments, and i dimly remember a while back when this topic was touched on and your comments then. We both agree it would be a nice plus, and you are spot on regarding Universal*s upcoming onslaught.

A *loyalty program* could spur additonal spending, and this is what WDW is trying to do these days more then ever with it*s Guests. It seems a no-brainer to add one to the program, but perhaps it is being held back until the basic NextGen system is up and running and FULLY capable of doing what is being planned for it. It would be easy to add on a *loyalty program* in the future i would think, if not during this early stage.

Some of the aspects could be something simple like virtual coupons for those Guests who are tracked as having been active in the shopping department.

Another could be to have a small discount offered to what seems to be a Guests favorite, or most visited, table service/higher end dining establishment on property.

Of course the obvious ones are *special* discounts on perhaps a 3/4 day Park ticket, 5/6 day, or even a 7/8 day. Package offers could also be catered to those who are tracked for being yearly or more frequent visitors to the Parks.

There are multiple ways this could be manipulated, and multiple ways it could be worked to provide additional income for Disney. Lots of creative room there to try out different deals, discounts, and perhaps even small giveaways that would provide a business proven initiative to increase sales. The possibilities are endless in regards to what could be offered in such a program.
Like the old saying goes, * You can attract more bees with honey then with vinegar*.
Dish out a little *honey* to frequent visiting, non-Passholder Guests and watch the hive that is the Disney bank account grow. Keep passing out the *vinegar* and watch the concept wither on the vine and die...or more then likely, just re-plant themselves elsewhere off-property ( like at Sea World or Uni ! )

It would seem a Disney Parks *loyalty program* would be a great way to entice those jaded regulars or *Worldphilles* like myself to be coaxed into maybe deciding to spend for some Merch we might have otherwise overlooked, or inspire a impromptu additional restaurant visit that might have otherwise not have happened.
Seems to me like instant added money into the bank for Disney, so the big question is :

Why not ?

Some might feel that bringing more discounts to WDW would not be a good thing in some respects.
We all know what happened a couple of years after the *Free Dining Offers* started.
Quality went down the drain somewhat in the food offerings and choices to be had, particularly at the once better TS locations.

I do not see a *loyalty program* becoming such a issue however in such negative respects, as it is something only those who regularly visit would be able to take advantage of.
It would truly be a *reward* initiative for those who visit yearly, or more often.

So it seems like a win/win situation for both Worldphille and Disney.
Think frequent flyer miles at WDW....*visit five times in five years and get a free/discounted whatever on your next visit!*

:)
 

Funmeister

Well-Known Member
Some feel the company already offers a loyalty program through the Disney Visa card which was an unofficial replacement for the Magic Kingdom Club. Sad...
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Thanks GoofGoof...i agree fully with what you are saying here. You sparked my memory with your comments, and i dimly remember a while back when this topic was touched on and your comments then. We both agree it would be a nice plus, and you are spot on regarding Universal*s upcoming onslaught.

A *loyalty program* could spur additonal spending, and this is what WDW is trying to do these days more then ever with it*s Guests. It seems a no-brainer to add one to the program, but perhaps it is being held back until the basic NextGen system is up and running and FULLY capable of doing what is being planned for it. It would be easy to add on a *loyalty program* in the future i would think, if not during this early stage.

Some of the aspects could be something simple like virtual coupons for those Guests who are tracked as having been active in the shopping department.

Another could be to have a small discount offered to what seems to be a Guests favorite, or most visited, table service/higher end dining establishment on property.

Of course the obvious ones are *special* discounts on perhaps a 3/4 day Park ticket, 5/6 day, or even a 7/8 day. Package offers could also be catered to those who are tracked for being yearly or more frequent visitors to the Parks.

There are multiple ways this could be manipulated, and multiple ways it could be worked to provide additional income for Disney. Lots of creative room there to try out different deals, discounts, and perhaps even small giveaways that would provide a business proven initiative to increase sales. The possibilities are endless in regards to what could be offered in such a program.
Like the old saying goes, * You can attract more bees with honey then with vinegar*.
Dish out a little *honey* to frequent visiting, non-Passholder Guests and watch the hive that is the Disney bank account grow. Keep passing out the *vinegar* and watch the concept wither on the vine and die...or more then likely, just re-plant themselves elsewhere off-property ( like at Sea World or Uni ! )

It would seem a Disney Parks *loyalty program* would be a great way to entice those jaded regulars or *Worldphilles* like myself to be coaxed into maybe deciding to spend for some Merch we might have otherwise overlooked, or inspire a impromptu additional restaurant visit that might have otherwise not have happened.
Seems to me like instant added money into the bank for Disney, so the big question is :

Why not ?

Some might feel that bringing more discounts to WDW would not be a good thing in some respects.
We all know what happened a couple of years after the *Free Dining Offers* started.
Quality went down the drain somewhat in the food offerings and choices to be had, particularly at the once better TS locations.

I do not see a *loyalty program* becoming such a issue however in such negative respects, as it is something only those who regularly visit would be able to take advantage of.
It would truly be a *reward* initiative for those who visit yearly, or more often.

So it seems like a win/win situation for both Worldphille and Disney.
Think frequent flyer miles at WDW....*visit five times in five years and get a free/discounted whatever on your next visit!*

:)

Agreed. They could also essentially give away things that are virtually free to them anyway. Hard core fans would eat up things like exclusive meet and greets or how about lunch with an imagineer. Technically you incur expenses since your employees have to spend time on these things, but the imagineers are salaried anyway probably. When it comes to merchandise they could at least offer discounts based on your tier level (10% off for silver, 20% gold, 30% platinum). They could also offer exclusive items like unique pins, specialty shirts and lithographs. The point is this seems like a no brainer to me and should become a lot more refined once the raw data from next gen comes rolling in. They should in theory know exactly who to target and what they will like that will make them happy and more importantly make them return.
 

the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
@jt04 do you seriously want Disney to run WDW like an airline?!?!?
So much for "everyone is a VIP".
You tell that to the 8 year old boy/girl whose parents saved for years to take them when Mickey, Minnie, insert character here doesn't ask about them after the previous kid got an extensive, personal conversation in because his/her parents can stay at Deluxe resorts every year. And if you don't think said kid would be upset, you have no soul (Rasulo??).

Just food for thought.
 

luv

Well-Known Member
@jt04 do you seriously want Disney to run WDW like an airline?!?!?
So much for "everyone is a VIP".
You tell that to the 8 year old boy/girl whose parents saved for years to take them when Mickey, Minnie, insert character here doesn't ask about them after the previous kid got an extensive, personal conversation in because his/her parents can stay at Deluxe resorts every year. And if you don't think said kid would be upset, you have no soul (Rasulo??).

Just food for thought.
How would a character at a M&G know where someone was staying?
 

luv

Well-Known Member
by the bracelet .
But won't everyone have a bracelet? How would the character know?

I had a vision of a Terminator-type screen in there, listing things off, lol.

Of course, characters with heads don't talk, anyway. But those who do couldn't really see anything, either, could they?

Still confused. And have had no Vicodin on which to blame it, lol.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
But won't everyone have a bracelet? How would the character know?

I had a vision of a Terminator-type screen in there, listing things off, lol.

Of course, characters with heads don't talk, anyway. But those who do couldn't really see anything, either, could they?

Still confused. And have had no Vicodin on which to blame it, lol.

The theory I have heard is the "handler" would have a hand held device which would give them the info from the kid's wristband. It's supposed to be used to allow speaking characters to call kids by their first names and such things.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
The theory I have heard is the "handler" would have a hand held device which would give them the info from the kid's wristband. It's supposed to be used to allow speaking characters to call kids by their first names and such things.
Either that or... they could install mini iPhones inside the heads of the characters allowing them access to all you personal data.
 

luv

Well-Known Member
The theory I have heard is the "handler" would have a hand held device which would give them the info from the kid's wristband. It's supposed to be used to allow speaking characters to call kids by their first names and such things.
Oh, my gosh. All that time and money spent...when they could have just had the characters or attendants say, "What's your name?"

Crazy.
 

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