Spirited News & Observations II -- NGE/Baxter

MattM

Well-Known Member
Acquisitions are largely focused on driving short-term growth, which often is tied directly to CEO compensation. A CEO frequently buys other companies because they are unable to grow their own business. It's one of the reasons large conglomerates become increasingly inefficient. Smaller, agile companies are taken over by inefficient behemoths that cannot even properly run their own affairs.

I respectfully disagree with this. Just this morning, GE bought Lufkin for 3+ billion. This is an acquisition that will not start contributing to GE's earnings for at least a couple of years. It's a great acquisition that returns GE to it's original foundation of being an industrial company. Once they get over the initial response of having overpaid for Lufkin, it will be a big revenue contributor to GE for decades to come.
 

MattM

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Since acquiring Lucasfilm they have killed one of the most popular animated shows on television and a well-known gaming studio which has produced a major amount of content for the Star Wars Franchise. I would not consider that a wise use of a beloved brand they supposedly just spent a fortune on. It's incredibly foolish to buy such a cultural institution and then begin to dismantle the things that made it successful.

There was a very high probability LucasArts was gone whether or not Disney bought them or not.
 

culturenthrills

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Oh, one other thing that came up in 'research' this weekend. But Disney has a Mommy Blogger with a whole 173 followers (how many are fellow Mommy Bloggers and relatives? Not that it should even matter. ... We'll have 2-3 times as many views on this thread alone in the next hour to place this in some context and you don't see Disney giving me anything ... except for some heartburn and plenty of fodder for these forums!) who is a Canadian that lives in Mexico and Disney sends her to Aulani (as the official Mommy there) and on as many Adventures By Disney tours as it possibly can. They spend more on her in likely in a few months than the average Disney guest earns in a year. ... Again, to what end? Can we page Shel Holtz or Mark Ragan or Josh Hallett to the thread. Or maybe just Thomas.Smith@Disney.com?

They are so poorly informed and so off the mark in their strategies ...

One other thing, also heard that not only are they not thrilled with Wannabe Lou, but Disney hasn't been very happy with THE REAL LOU either of late. It seems like while he is great at WDW promotion, he is even better (this is shocking, I know) at SELF PROMOTION. They, particularly, don't like him using Disney to sell the Lou Mongello BRAND, which he just did on Bloomberg. ... I mean, a sleazeball like Lou ... who could have ever thought he'd be involved in self interest above all else, right? A lawyer ... right @WDWFigment? :)

I'm not a mommy but I bet more people read my Facebook posts each day than view her blog in a week. Where are my free vacations. I'll talk up Tangled restrooms and new benches. ;-)
 

articos

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[Full disclosure--I've met Lou socially a couple times, we have some mutual friends, although I think the only podcast I ever listened to was the live D23 one]

What did you expect a meet with Lou Mongello to be about, if not him, his show and his stuff?

The guy certainly has a healthy ego--he's a lawyer and from Jersey, that's two strikes right there--but a large number of Disney fanbois enjoy the taste of his KoolAde. He found 80 people willing to pony up $200 a plate for his own personally written Adventurers Club re-imagining last year. I'm not defending bringing an entire media set-up into the parks, and I think there are real questions as to why he's given the access he is. But if we're going to mock a mommy blogger for having 170 followers, I think we also have to respect however many thousands Lou has accumulated.
I was going to say ugh, but then decided anyone like you're describing isn't worth my time. And I have nothing against people from Jersey.
 

culturenthrills

Well-Known Member
I tried listening to WDWRadio a few months ago but after 2 weeks I stopped. Seriously, how many shirts and trivia books does this guy have?!?!
Who has the time to listen to that crap. I have a hard enough time not falling behind on Mohr stories, Girl on Guy, and other podcasts I actually would want to listen to.
 

MattM

Well-Known Member
I'm sorry, but how does that add up?

If she is considered 'a contractor of the Times', if she was 'writing for the Times', then she didn't misrepresent herself in the first place. If however she isn't, then these issues - of her integrity as a NYT contractor and of her concurrent activity as PR for TWDC plus writing for the NYT - are by default non-existent.

She states on LinkedIn that she worked for the New York Time Company. She has done so for 11 years. So even if you want to go with the argument that the Ledger is part of the NYT Regional Co, which is true, the NYT Regional Co was owned by the NYT Co during her tenure there, even though it has since sold to Halifax. People have a hard time separating entities from companies, i.e. Walt Disney World = The Walt Disney Company, Orlando Sentinel = Tribune Company, Cadlillac = General Motors, etc.
 

MattM

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Maybe its just some norm I don't understand, but if one works for Walt Disney World I don't think it's misrepresentation to say one works for The Walt Disney Company when in reality there are subsidiaries like The Walt Disney World Company in between. The quote getting plastered here references The New York Times Company not The New York Times. Is the New York Times Regional Media Group not a wholly owned subsidiary of The New York Times Company?
Didn't see this before I posted, but this is exactly correct.

And if we're going to hammer poor blondie, we need to call the Ledger and demand they fire everyone there who mentions on LinkedIn that they too worked for the New York Times COMPANY (which many of them do).
 

Lee

Adventurer
It's a matter, to me at least, of her intentionally misleading anyone who reads her LinkedIn.

The fact that link can be made from the Ledger to the NYTC company (until last year) isn't the point. Though it will be interesting to see how The Times feels about it. ( I have it on good authority that they have been made aware of the situation.)

The point is that she knew if she put that she writes occasionally for the Ledger, people wouldn't give it a second thought.
By putting that she is a correspondent for the NYTC, she is purposely doing so in order to mislead people and to misrepresent her role as one of much greater esteem and importance than was actually the case.
A casual observer would be quite impressed with a job with The Times. She knew that and used the corporate ownership link to "fudge" her curriculum vitae.

Equally important are the ethical questions raised by working for a paper and Disney. That should raise some eyebrows in Burbank at a time when the social media dept. is already under unusual scrutiny.
 

MattM

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I tend to think you are just misunderstanding the way the business works. I'm not really sure what example will turn the lightbulb on ... by the way, what has happened to @whylightbulb? I sorta miss him and since I'm about to spill on some UNI news, I wouldn't mind his input!

But anyway ... I think the WDC would disagree with your point. If every front-line CM (minimum wage) suddenly decided that they worked for The Walt Disney Studios. They don't. Just like if some intern at an ABC affiliate in Hicktown, GA claims to work for TWDC ...

If you work for ESPN in BRistol, you work for ESPN. That's what you would declare. You wouldn't say you worked for TWDC, even if it gave you added prestige.

Would you like to take this to the extreme? Let's say you are a veteran of our armed forces (sorry, it's 2:09 a.m. and I do have a baseball game to get ready for at 7 tomorrow night!), would you put on your Linkedin profile that you worked for the Prez of the USA? I think not.

It's taking a tenuous corporate connection THAT IS IMPROPER TO BEGIN WITH and extrapolating/bastardizing it beyond all reason.

The waiters at the Brown Derby don't work for The Walt Disney Studios.

But you wouldn't be lying if you stated you worked for the Walt Disney Company, either.

And if you put you worked for the Prez of the USA, you would be showing a gross misunderstanding of the way our government works...something about "We The People.." but that is for another discussion altogether ;)

Maybe I'll see you as the Braves beat up on the Marlins tonight. I'll look for the bright Marlins jersey with "Spririt" and "74" on the back ;)
 

Lee

Adventurer
ill look for the bright Marlins jersey with "Spirit" and "74" on the back.
Note to self: Spirit's X-mas gift for this year...
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MattM

Well-Known Member
I hate to continue the heated debate, but there is another point...

How could someone who does work for the Ledger claim to have worked for the NYTC until January of this year, when in fact the Ledger was sold to Halifax Media Group last year?
As I see it, until the sale she was simply grossly misrepresenting her (improper) employment. Since the sale it has just been a plain lie.

Because the NYTCO still owned the NYTRG during her tenure there.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
It's a matter, to me at least, of her intentionally misleading anyone who reads her LinkedIn.

The fact that link can be made from the Ledger to the NYTC company (until last year) isn't the point. Though it will be interesting to see how The Times feels about it. ( I have it on good authority that they have been made aware of the situation.)
My point is that her being misleading does not justify being misleading in the reporting of her conduct.
 

Lee

Adventurer
Because the NYTCO still owned the NYTRG during her tenure there.
Not for the last year.
Since early last year, following her precedent, she should have listed herself as correspondent for Halifax Media.

But, despite its honesty, that doesn't look as impressive...
 

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