Spirited News & Observations II -- NGE/Baxter

Lee

Lee

Adventurer
lazyboy97o said:
My point is that her being misleading does not justify being misleading in the reporting of her conduct.
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Certainly.
She is enough in the wrong that there is no need to exaggerate it.

However, I've noticed a stronger reaction by those who actually work in media. They take such distinctions VERY seriously, and are quite offended by that kind of misrepresentations.

In the eyes of someone who works for The Times, and likely for The Ledger as well, she lied.
 
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MattM

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Lee said:
Not for the last year.
Since early last year, following her precedent, she should have listed herself as correspondent for Halifax Media.

But, despite its honesty, that doesn't look as impressive...
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I don't necessarily disagree that she should have added "/Halifax Media Group"

But to list what the company was when you worked there is not lying. For example, the former CEO of Northwest Airlines could ethically list that he was just that, and maybe put in the description that he led the merger into the new entity, Delta Airlines.
 
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MattM

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Lee said:
In the eyes of someone who works for The Times, and likely for The Ledger as well, she lied.
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But what about all of the Ledger employees who also have the NYTCo listed on their LinkedIn profiles?

Also, why are we giving so much attention to LinkedIn?
 
asianway

asianway

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MattM said:
But what about all of the Ledger employees who also have the NYTCo listed on their LinkedIn profiles?

Also, why are we giving so much attention to LinkedIn?
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Because if thats what out there for anyone to see, what is possibly being misrepresented we cant see.

At the end of the day, this will be palyed out in the court of HR and Burbank leadership. Doesnt really matter what anyones opinion here is(thank god).
 
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MattM

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asianway said:
Because if thats what out there for anyone to see, what is possibly being misrepresented we cant see.

At the end of the day, this will be palyed out in the court of HR and Burbank leadership. Doesnt really matter what anyones opinion here is(thank god).
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Maybe. But if I google New York Times ( http://bit.ly/JtzPM7 ) I get something entirely different than if i google New York Times Company ( http://bit.ly/Xo7BIq )

Thanks to @flynnibus for that link. My wife hates me and you for it.
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

Premium Member
WDW1974 said:
Just for clarification sake, she has never stated that she worked for the Lakeland Ledger. She wants people to believe she is a big fish and has done laps in the NY Times pool. That is not the case. The NY Times does have correspondents around the USA (the world ... and even Orlando), but she has not been one.

We only know she has worked for the Ledger (until 2-3 months ago when she stopped for some reason) because we researched it.

And as someone who had a friend that worked there back in the 1980s, comparing the LL to the NYT is like comparing the church carnival to EPCOT. BUT ... it still is an unredeemable conflict on two ends. Not allowed by Disney. Not allowed by the Ledger.... Officially, anyhow.
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To be honest I don't see the big deal about saying you work for the New York Times Co when you really work for a local subsidiary paper and not the actual New York Times paper. It's maybe misleading, but technically true. Isn't the real issue that a person who is a writer for the Ledger is also responsible for social media at a major company that is often covered by the paper? Isn't that a huge issue with independence and journalistic integrity? To me that seems just wrong. Disney must know she is working for the paper too so it's really on them. I could care less that someone who I don't know is embellishing their résumé.
 
Lee

Lee

Adventurer
GoofGoof said:
Isn't the real issue that a person who is a writer for the Ledger is also responsible for social media at a major company that is often covered by the paper? Isn't that a huge issue with independence and journalistic integrity? To me that seems just wrong. Disney must know she is working for the paper too so it's really on them. I could care less that someone who I don't know is embellishing their résumé.
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Yes. I made that same point earlier.
The misleading resume is bad.
Working for both Disney and a news organization is likely worse, especially in Disney's eyes.
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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GoofGoof said:
I could care less that someone who I don't know is embellishing their résumé.
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Why? You hire a person whom you assume to have good upstanding moral character & have general business ethics. Their resume says what it say. It comes out that there's embellishment and its rather serious in some peoples opinion. Why wouldn't you have a problem with this?

The over all question I pose to the group: Why are you so willing to accept lying on a resume?

(The you is a general you, not picking on anyone there.)
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Lee said:
Certainly.
She is enough in the wrong that there is no need to exaggerate it.

However, I've noticed a stronger reaction by those who actually work in media. They take such distinctions VERY seriously, and are quite offended by that kind of misrepresentations.

In the eyes of someone who works for The Times, and likely for The Ledger as well, she lied.
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Lee sums up the point of exactly why I'm thoroughly ed off about this. In my business, misrepresentation is equated with lying. Same thing, we don't draw distinctions or split hairs.
 

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