Spirited News & Observations II -- NGE/Baxter

[WDW1974]

Those are really poor examples. The Walt Disney Studios is completely outside the hierarchy that moves from The Walt Disney Company into Walt Disney Parks and Resorts through The Walt Disney World Company and to the front-line Cast Members. But this example is exactly what your doing right now. A Walt Disney World front-line Cast Member stating to have worked for The Walt Disney Company is not the same as a Walt Disney World front-line Cast Member stating to have worked for The Walt Disney Studios, the very sort of distinction you consistently fail to make when on one of your crusades.

I have given plenty of examples and you won't take them. You wish to defend Jenn. I have no idea why. Or maybe you just want to play and don't like the way she has been exposed, so you'll hang on to one tiny loose thread and make it seem like the most important part of the discussion when it isn't.

Just to stick to the facts here, as a publicist for TWDC, if you did employ her, you'd have to fire her.

You're crusading against something not worthy of your time.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Little known fact about Naples, FL : one of the top three places to relocate people in the Witness Protection Program.

Lou does look like he might make a decent lasagna and garlic rolls.

I'd love to try his restaurant.

 

[WDW1974]

I just dont draw that distinction and IMO the average person wouldn't either. IMO when the average person hears "The New York Times Company" they automatically assume the gray lady herself.

Like I said, I'm done arguing on this.

Me too ... where's a good place to get pizza near WDW?

 

[PhotoDave219]

Me too ... where's a good place to get pizza near WDW?

Fantastic question.

Still trying to find a place.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I have given plenty of examples and you won't take them. You wish to defend Jenn. I have no idea why. Or maybe you just want to play and don't like the way she has been exposed, so you'll hang on to one tiny loose thread and make it seem like the most important part of the discussion when it isn't.

Just to stick to the facts here, as a publicist for TWDC, if you did employ her, you'd have to fire her.

You're crusading against something not worthy of your time.

Again, it's not "us or them." There is no defense of her. My issue is squarely with what I see as you not holding yourself to the same standards you say need to be demanded. If you're going to demand exactitude, then exactitude is what I expect. I am not one to say that the end justifies the means (I do not care if we share a common cause) and I think you repeatedly are willing to do just that.

 

[Darth Sidious]

This was not a layoff. This was a termination that sounds like it was the result of not meeting the minimum work requirements set by the company for Casual Temporary (CT) Cast Members. As others have mentioned, within the past year or so the company has implemented a minimum number of hours that must be worked annually to maintain this status. That minimum was likely an attempt to curb the number of CT Cast Members who previously would literally work a single shift every twelve months for the sole purpose of retaining their Cast ID, entrance priveleges, discount benefits, etc.

Then surely she could have an appeal process in a situation where she wasn't trying to 'work the system'.

 

[ThemeParks4Life]

Remember how Easy WDW was mentioning a DHS announcement could come the first week of May? Could that be it?

 

[jt04]

It would be so cool if you or that other guy - what's his name, that girlie-looking one - would turn out to really be Bob!

Even cooler if you took revenge by banning JT from any Disney park!

Cooler still if it turned out JT has never even entered a Disney Park in the first place!

Where did this come from?

 

[jt04]

Again, it's not "us or them." There is no defense of her. My issue is squarely with what I see as you not holding yourself to the same standards you say need to be demanded. If you're going to demand exactitude, then exactitude is what I expect. I am not one to say that the end justifies the means (I do not care if we share a common cause) and I think you repeatedly are willing to do just that.

The bloom begins to fall from the spirited rose.

 

[Lee]

I hate to continue the heated debate, but there is another point...

How could someone who does work for the Ledger claim to have worked for the NYTC until January of this year, when in fact the Ledger was sold to Halifax Media Group last year?
As I see it, until the sale she was simply grossly misrepresenting her (improper) employment. Since the sale it has just been a plain lie.

 

[jt04]

I hate to continue the heated debate, but there is another point...

How could someone who does work for the Ledger claim to have worked for the NYTC until January of this year, when in fact the Ledger was sold to Halifax Media Group last year?
As I see it, until the sale she was simply grossly misrepresenting her (improper) employment. Since the sale it has just been a plain lie.

If spirited change is coming to TDO it has to do more with this http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/opinion/sunday/sundown-in-america.html than some essentially anonymous 'reporter/blogger' who may have embellished a so-called 'resume' on linkedin nobody would have ever noticed anyway. Meaningless.

PS- In the 'spirit' of the thread, I made sure the article really is from the NYT.

 

[George]

Where did this come from?

From the heavens, like a delicious basket of Figaro Fries or the strawberry swirl, which now only exist in our minds as Platonic ideals.

 

[djlaosc]

While UNI goes pedal to the floor with major new projects (yeah, I should have more info this week on that end)

Now would that be...

Transformers?
Diagon Alley?
Cabana Bay?
Jurassic Park?
KidZone?
DreamWorks?
Seuss Landing?
Buying up land/3rd theme park?
Waterpark?
Something else? (Fear Factor Replacement, etc.)

So many possibilities...




...it's nice to have so many possibilities...

 

[jt04]

From the heavens, like a delicious basket of Figaro Fries or the strawberry swirl, which now only exist in our minds as Platonic ideals.

Perhaps a strategy for closing that particular eatery soon? Hope so anyway.

 

[jakeman]

From the heavens, like a delicious basket of Figaro Fries or the strawberry swirl, which now only exist in our minds as Platonic ideals.

Oh Figaro Fries...May you rest in peace.

 

[jt04]

Now would that be...

Transformers?
Diagon Alley?
Cabana Bay?
Jurassic Park?
KidZone?
DreamWorks?
Seuss Landing?
Buying up land/3rd theme park?
Waterpark?
Something else? (Fear Factor Replacement, etc.)

So many possibilities...




...it's nice to have so many possibilities...

Hopefully all of the above. WDW can always benefit from the overflow.

 

[COProgressFan]

Oh Figaro Fries...May you rest in peace.

My wife still holds a grudge from when they stopped selling these!

 

[GLaDOS]

I don't care about the Disney Social Media Scandal.

I just want that Universal news.

 

[71jason]

A publicist can not work as a journalist -- at the SAME time. I don't know how much more I (or Dave or anyone) can spell it out.

I understand why the focus is on TWDC employee here, but doesn't the Ledger have some 'splaining to do too? They hired a WDW PR hack to wirte for their newspaper? Do newspapers still have ombudsmen?

 

[71jason]

I wasted valuable vacation time to meet Lou a couple of years ago at one of his meet of the months. It was all about him, his show, and his stuff. When I got back home, I unsubscribed from his podcast and deleted the episodes that I had. He's living a charmed life that has got to crash around him at some point. I hope he can still practice law because Disney can be an expensive place for an unemployed blogger....

[Full disclosure--I've met Lou socially a couple times, we have some mutual friends, although I think the only podcast I ever listened to was the live D23 one]

What did you expect a meet with Lou Mongello to be about, if not him, his show and his stuff?

The guy certainly has a healthy ego--he's a lawyer and from Jersey, that's two strikes right there--but a large number of Disney fanbois enjoy the taste of his KoolAde. He found 80 people willing to pony up $200 a plate for his own personally written Adventurers Club re-imagining last year. I'm not defending bringing an entire media set-up into the parks, and I think there are real questions as to why he's given the access he is. But if we're going to mock a mommy blogger for having 170 followers, I think we also have to respect however many thousands Lou has accumulated.