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Spirited News & Observations II -- NGE/Baxter
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John
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As said by another poster....Disney is no more then a holding company now. Nothing creative...Just sad.
John
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The best advice I could give everyone....buy Disney stock. Yup buy it now even at its all time high. It will go higher. Igers only intention is to boost the value as much as he can. He will get a huge seperation package when he leaves then shortly after nhis departure he will dump them cashing in. Its been done a million times before. He will leave the next CEO holding the bag. Sure its just my opinion but it reaks of a "pump and dump".
Disney Springs will be just like anyother upscale "mall" Some stores will do very well....others will struggle. By the time store shutter Iger will be gone. This scenario has been repeated all over the country.During the process wallstreet and more importantly we as marks will love it. Then stores will start to close only to remain closed. Iger will leave WDW in worse condition then he found it. But he will leave a very very rich man.
Why isnt Star wars going into a domestic park? because it takes a substantial investment. Something he will not do. IMO There will be no Carsland....there will be no Avatar and certianally no Star Wars.He dosnt care what his legacy will be with fans of Disney. He will only care what the stocks value will be on the day he leaves. I will bet anybody a steak of thier chooseing at any Disney resturant if this dosnt happen.
edit: the bet is that Disneys stock will be at an all time high the week Iger leaves office of CEO...any takers?
Disney Springs will be just like anyother upscale "mall" Some stores will do very well....others will struggle. By the time store shutter Iger will be gone. This scenario has been repeated all over the country.During the process wallstreet and more importantly we as marks will love it. Then stores will start to close only to remain closed. Iger will leave WDW in worse condition then he found it. But he will leave a very very rich man.
Why isnt Star wars going into a domestic park? because it takes a substantial investment. Something he will not do. IMO There will be no Carsland....there will be no Avatar and certianally no Star Wars.He dosnt care what his legacy will be with fans of Disney. He will only care what the stocks value will be on the day he leaves. I will bet anybody a steak of thier chooseing at any Disney resturant if this dosnt happen.
edit: the bet is that Disneys stock will be at an all time high the week Iger leaves office of CEO...any takers?
jdmdisney99
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Oh, that makes sense. I don't take him seriously. He's a special Disney fan and I admire his passion for the current product, if not the way he expresses himself with those of us who see things more clearly as they are and not as we wish them to be.
But, boy, is his Twitter feed fun reading!
Oh, there is no doubt of that. They have never kept tabs on our spending and our value as BRAND advocates, so we're basically worthless. The ONLY bone they've thrown us in 31 years was the lowest renewal rate (and the savings didn't even equal a one-day ticket) and they took that away when they desperately gave DVCers $300 off PAPs last fall to keep them away from Spidey, Shamu and The Boy Who Lived. They can't be bothered even giving us meaningless things like D23 free membership, an annual holiday card and pin and better discounts on dining and hotels, let alone things like a special concierge line and the ability to almost always get into any restaurant, a few comp tickets for family/friends annually etc. That's what you'd get if you were a Starwood Gold hotels member (I know) or an Elite FF with any legacy carrier (I know this too!) yet Disney thinks a pathetic little discount is appreciating our loyalty.
Yes, TDO wishes most of us didn't exist, which tells you how out of touch with reality they are (right Georgie?)
I just love that last part (hence the bolding!) ... it is sad, yet oh so true.
To be fair, this was a foregone conclusion and Lucas knew it was coming. ... I am not familiar with the gaming segment of the business at all, but I do know they have struggled greatly for over a decade now.
Not saying I would have killed it, but I can't fault the thinking behind it ... to some degree.
And this is the crux of their problems. It's also why they were dipping their toes into 'what would our P&R unit fetch?' ... Disney is so risk averse that they'd just as soon not own anything and certainly not create things.
You can't be a MAGIC factory that doesn't create any MAGIC, but buys it from others ... and that is pretty much what has happened to Disney ... and it is VERY different from the way ME approached things (often with great results, sometimes not so).
There are folks at ILM that have wondered about their future since the deal was announced ...
Is that a late April Fools joke or are you serious about Blondie? Let's see the link ... as to the portrait I've been assured by a high level official that it will return to a location where it can't be reached by the pigs that frequent the parks nowadays. I intend to make sure the person holds their word on it. Trust me!
HMF
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If Disney historicly killed off every department that has struggled, Feature Animation would have been killed off numerous times and Disney would have disappeared after Pinocchio.
Oh, if Roy E. Disney was still here, we know he's good at that!
I hate to play what would Roy do anymore than the What Would Walt Do line of thinking.
But having met the man and knowing his history and what he valued, I doubt VERY much that he'd have a problem with the way the company was being run right now. Truly.
And it almost was numerous times ... the last being about a decade ago.
And animation is far more important and integral to what Disney is than a gaming division that came as a tiny part of a large acquisition. Again, sorry, but that just is the way it goes. I feel worst for the folks losing their jobs. That's where the real pain in this is.
the.dreamfinder
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@SirLink has the greatest degree of authority on the subject here, but I'll take a whack.
Since the late 90's, LucasArts would outsource game development for projects like Rouge Squadron(Factor 5) Knights of the Old Republic/The Old Republic (BioWare Corp.) and Battlefront (Pandemic) to name a few. LucasArts did not make many games during the 00's compared to their output in the 90's where they made more than Star Wars games, games like The Secret of Monkey Island, Day of the Tentacle, and Grim Fandango come to mind. Their recent work over the past five years has mainly been Star Wars games with an original one off game and an Indiana Jones game that was cancelled.
Two of their most recent projects illustrate mangements thinking.
The Old Republic (EA/BioWare): While not successful at first, it is doing well now and EA picked up most of the risk and budget for that project.
The Force Unleashed 2: Developed in house by LucasArts, received poor reviews and sales failed to meet their targets.
As you can tell, it does seem like the success of The Old Republic indicates why they have chosen to shut down internal projects at LucasArts.
HOWEVER, LucasArts had two VERY promising games in development
Star Wars:1313
First Assault (Storm Troopers Game)
http://kotaku.com/5990366/leaked-fo..._source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
Disney should have continued the mix of internal projects along with games made by others.
HMF
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"There are only three kinds of lies, lies, damned lies and statistics" -Mark Twain
the.dreamfinder
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Of course, a couple well placed leaks could cause some damage to the company's rep and potentially force him and others to leave...