Rumor Spaceship Earth Redo Shelved Indefinitely

Twirlnhurl

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Yeah I never went on irons SSE, and from what I’ve seen in videos , the descent looks cool ig, but nothing special from the many other future scenes on 20th century Epcot dark rides. I guess I had to be there in person to fully get it.
The descent scene in Irons-era Spaceship Earth was one of my favorite things in any theme park attraction. It was simple, but very atmospheric and dreamlike. Kind of like how the extended caves at the beginning of Disneyland's Pirates of the Caribbean make the whole thing better, even though there isn't much to them but atmosphere. It was the kind of experience that doesn't have an easy analogy to other art forms. But it just worked.
 

Bocabear

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Very sadly, considering how bad FEA is.
FEA is not that bad...There are things about it that are charming. The problem was being stuck with an existing ride system...even adding the one new scene was not quite enough. Maelstrom was alway a little odd to me... It never quite told much of a story...THe show scened bgan at the top of the lift hill, you sped by them and then the rest was quick and done and you are stuck waiting in a dead fishing village waiting to watch a not-so-great film.
 

Haymarket2008

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The descent scene in Irons-era Spaceship Earth was one of my favorite things in any theme park attraction. It was simple, but very atmospheric and dreamlike. Kind of like how the extended caves at the beginning of Disneyland's Pirates of the Caribbean make the whole thing better, even though there isn't much to them but atmosphere. It was the kind of experience that doesn't have an easy analogy to other art forms. But it just worked.

Easily one of the most gorgeous sequences ever created for a Disney attraction. And the musical score will literally haunt me forever (in a good way).
 

UNCgolf

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I don’t think FEA is a bad attraction however understand a lot of people on here have a love and hate relationship with it.

It feels unfinished to me. Like they got about halfway done designing/building it and then said, "eh, that's good enough".

There are great AAs, but way too much of the ride is barren. The Let It Go scene is especially terrible (and doesn't make any sense, but that's part of the problem with shoehorning it into an existing ride).

The updated version of it elsewhere is better, but it's still a mediocre attraction and not something they would have designed if they didn't have to jam it into the Maelstrom spot.
 

eddie104

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It feels unfinished to me. Like they got about halfway done designing/building it and then said, "eh, that's good enough".

There are great AAs, but way too much of the ride is barren. The Let It Go scene is especially terrible (and doesn't make any sense, but that's part of the problem with shoehorning it into an existing ride).

The updated version of it elsewhere is better, but it's still a mediocre attraction and not something they would have designed if they didn't have to jam it into the Maelstrom spot.
So you have a problem with the IP of choice which is Frozen?
 

UNCgolf

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So you have a problem with the IP of choice which is Frozen?

The IP doesn't have anything to do with the issues I described in the post you quoted. The fact that it's Frozen isn't related to the ride feeling barren and unfinished, as well as other general design issues.

That's why it's still a relatively poor ride (although better) even when they built it elsewhere and tried to fix some of the problems.
 

eddie104

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The IP doesn't have anything to do with the issues I described in the post you quoted. The fact that it's Frozen isn't related to the ride feeling barren and unfinished, as well as other general design issues.

That's why it's still a relatively poor ride (although better) even when they built it elsewhere and tried to fix some of the problems.
Fair enough.
 

UNCgolf

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Fair enough.

I think that's why they built a completely new Frozen attraction in Tokyo. I imagine OLC (or even WDI themselves) looked at Frozen Ever After, including the updated version, and said that's simply not good enough for what we want to do here.

It would have been the weakest attraction in Fantasy Springs (I'd personally probably still prefer it over Peter Pan, but that's because most screen based attractions just fundamentally don't work for me -- I don't think the average guest would feel that way).
 
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Streetway

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Shelved until it actually gets a budget and stuff lines up for it. Blah blah blah I expect it done by Epcot 50 but I think 2007 SE has another 4-5 years left.
Wait SSE got shelved? wow, that’s surprising. Guess sponsorship fell through? I guess nothing for Epcot this d23 other than TT? (I refuse to say figment, not getting hopes up again.)
 

Brer Oswald

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Shelved until it actually gets a budget and stuff lines up for it. Blah blah blah I expect it done by Epcot 50 but I think 2007 SE has another 4-5 years left.
Whatever the next update to this ride is, I hope it’s a lot more conservative than the stupid story light concept. The only scenes that need addressing are those in the descent. The rest just needs maintenance and TLC.

And the touch screens obviously need to go.
 

Streetway

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Genuinely don't expect much from EPCOT outside of possible Magic Eye stuff and maybe Imagination if they wanna play loose with it til we near 2032.
Man I hope figment doesn’t get the super budget cut version. It may sound sacrelige but I would accept inside out with figment if it was well designed with the budget it deserved. I don’t want dreamfinder back if it’s a cheap bandaid, which I kinda expect if I’m being honest. I unfortunately see them pulling figment blue sky out as a “hey don’t look at Epic, figments back!”. As for magic eye would be cool.
 

Moth

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Wait SSE got shelved? wow, that’s surprising. Guess sponsorship fell through? I guess nothing for Epcot this d23 other than TT? (I refuse to say figment, not getting hopes up again.)
SSE was always more a long term plan. It's "on the shelf" until they allocate the budget/officially announce it, really. Out of sight out of mind.
Whatever the next update to this ride is, I hope it’s a lot more conservative than the stupid story light concept. The only scenes that need addressing are those in the descent. The rest just needs maintenance and TLC.

And the touch screens obviously need to go.
Story Light idea got dropped when the first go got shelved. It was basically a "back to the drawing board" thing. When it gets pulled off the "shelf", it'd be because they found an idea that works better/would be recieved better than Story Light stuff.
Man I hope figment doesn’t get the super budget cut version. It may sound sacrelige but I would accept inside out with figment if it was well designed with the budget it deserved. I don’t want dreamfinder back if it’s a cheap bandaid, which I kinda expect if I’m being honest. I unfortunately see them pulling figment blue sky out as a “hey don’t look at Epic, figments back!”. As for magic eye would be cool.
They could have started work on Imagination yesterday and it wouldn't be ready for when EU opens unless it's done quick and dirty. Internal is aware they can't really afford to cut corners here. But after my Country Bear mix up I'm gonna hold back on specifying specifics until I see some sources consistently get stuff right in a row.
 

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