Jasonflz
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Exactly. Funnily enough it was meant to look the way it does and that look really works. If it was in someplace like epcot though....
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Exactly. Funnily enough it was meant to look the way it does and that look really works. If it was in someplace like epcot though....
Captain Chaos
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Totally out of place..
EPCOT Explorer
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I like it too. They SHOULD be doing it.
But doing it to patch a half done refurb? No thanks.
TLM over in DCA has one now...Yeah. The closest they ever came to a "themed" refurb wall was when Horizons was torn down and Mission: SPACE was being built, but even thats a stretch.
Courtesy of Intercot (sorry about the state of Horizons in the background):
and...
No it wasn't. It had the spirit of EPCOT Center, damnit, and don't you forget it!:fork::lol:*sniffle* Keep it together...it was only a ride....
As do I. It could have easily fit in a more "intense" EPCOT Center, song and all.:lookaroun:lol:
Jasonflz
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Could be worse.. they could be 'rockit rodding' our tta
True dat. Rockets Rods worked much better in the Disneyland Tomorrowland theming. (that is when they worked)
EPCOT Explorer
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Could be worse.. they could be 'rockit rodding' our tta
That attraction always looked cool to me...:lookaroun:lookaroun:lol:
But I would miss our TTA too much.
jt04
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Yeah. The closest they ever came to a "themed" refurb wall was when Horizons was torn down and Mission: SPACE was being built, but even thats a stretch.
Courtesy of Intercot (sorry about the state of Horizons in the background):
Now look what you did!
Kidding. Thanks for the photo proof. Anyone who can't see how revolutionary the LM refurb wall is may not "get" the Disney difference. But they talk a good game.
Thrill Seeker
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I do admit that even though it is definitely one of WDI's biggest failures, I still would have liked to have ridden Rocket Rods. However, if they tried to touch my TTA, heads would roll...
The way our Tomorrowland is set up, TTA fits perfectly and should not be altered in terms of what it is. Maybe enhance what is already there, but definitely not change what it is...
As for the whole Horizons vs. Mission Space battle we have going on, I completely agree with everyone that Horizons was the true spirit of Epcot Center. In many ways, it was more of the park's landmark attraction than Spaceship Earth. I was pretty upset when it was torn up and Mission Space was thrown in to replace it. I'm not that big of a fan of Mission Space. It's cool and an interesting experience, but I don't think it was the E-ticket that was going to draw in tons of crowds that Disney was expecting. The last several times I've been to Epcot, Mission Space always has a short line. Many people who I've talked to don't like it at all, and there aren't too many diehard fans of the ride (anyone feel free to chime in if you are). SGE was just a failure on many counts and will probably be replaced in the not too distant future. Mission Space won't be going anywhere mostly because of HP sponsoring it and because they spent a lot of money to build it, not because it's a particularly amazing attraction, because it really isn't that much fun.
CaptainMichael
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Question for the fanbois out there:
What color would the exterior of Horizons be if it were still around today? Do you think it would be the same, or would it have been painted?
What color would the exterior of Horizons be if it were still around today? Do you think it would be the same, or would it have been painted?
jt04
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Totally different track design and ride vehicle. WDW's SM can't handle the DL system it appears. The rumor is they may be working on the problem but it will be added at a later date.......when it's ready.
Class dismissed.
Soundtracker and its derivatives have issues with the solid state cards the audio is stored on - they have a tendency to vibrate free over time. They just need accessing and reseating but this is time consuming and most CMs wouldn`t have the time to do it - or be aware of the issue if not told about it. RnRC has clear to see LEDs for the status, other attractions have indicators where you need to look hard to see them.It was sad that they were to lazy to re install the audio.DL SM wasn't as good without the audinly rockets 2 and 7 had audio! (that's what my dad told me)
It's just a shame!
The system was developed in 1993 for DLPs Casey Jr. and then added to DLPs Space Mountain in 1995 - this ride is prone to having loose cards, and is even so today. We rode front seat in an empty car in WDSPs RnRC with no audio - it is amazing how quiet the ride is. Wind noise and nothing else. Whilst a good experience it is amazing how much of the ride story you loose.
Nowerdays I`d imagine Soundtracker uses EPROMS onboard instead of memory cards - and there was R&D done for Orlando for an offboard storage system for onboard audio.
Well said.
JWG
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TLM over in DCA has one now...
Picture? Of TLM refurb wall? I know, it's not WDW but I'm curious. I've not seen one of these walls for a new attraction. Only existing (Japan, HoP). And other's had the same old walls when the attraction wasn't hid (Small World currently, HM, SSE, etc.).
EPCOT Explorer
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Hopefully it's nice gold tone, still.
Very interesting. If they can't do on board audio, can't they put speakers around the rack?
True dat. Rockets Rods worked much better in the Disneyland Tomorrowland theming. (that is when they worked)
rocket rods was actually really fun but I prefer TTA. I actually want both.Replace TLSW with Rocket Rods Please!:wave:
If they can't keep up with it, they could just put speakers on the side of the track
goodtimes5286
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are you refering to TSMM?
personally ive never seen MS at a carnaval, but if i did i would most def ride it. Just because it spins doesnt make it a carnaval ride, do you say the same thing about the mad hatters tea party, or the golden carousel? (whose ride systems could have been directly taken from a carnaval) Horizons had a story yes, but so does Mission Space and your failing to see that. Your just so blinded by your nastalsia for your previous ride that you fail to see the value in the new one. Maybe the ride isnt mediocre
In Horizons you sat in a ride vehical and moved around, same thing with nemo and friends (the reason why i said nemo and friends is b/c the vehicle system seams pretty close to alike to me, of course not the astetics, but just the vehicals and track).
Sit watch and hear a story is the past, sit, watch, and EXPERIENCE the story is the future.
Although I gotta admit the end seamed really rushed. Since they started over with the pavilion they could have made it much grander and closed out the story differently, BUT right now it's no different then space mountains ending. IMO i think they should have had a quick service resturant ATLEAST, i mean in the 4 pavs over there, there isnt one, but yet across the way they have two pavilions that do things right. A kiddy C ticket like astro orbitor and some sort of sit and watch A ticket would have been the perfect touch, sadly they fell short.
jt04
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Ah, thanks for filling in the blanks. Can't wait for the new system to be ready, even if it is a year from now and after SM's first phase of it's refurb. I hear the Haunted Mansion may be getting close to it's second phase of it's refurb.