Seriously? You can't decide to suspend? Don't have much control over your emotions do you? You do it your way, I'll do it mine. I can override my logical mind and I have to just to read some of these posts otherwise they would have to put me in one of those padded wall rooms with a very tight jacket.
I didn't know we were arguing. I just thought we were exchange points of view as to how we envision what is happening at Soarin, in the queue and the show itself. Sorry, if I didn't come across that way.
Yes, seriously. The whole concept and term is about a response. It is not just a fancy way of telling people to just ignore plot holes.
I took the Walt's California guided tour at DCA earlier this year. The guide spent 20 minutes explaining the details of Grizzly Peak Airfield and how it tells the exciting story of California's aviation and aerospace history. All of the buildings in Grizzly Peak Airfield were designed specifically to tell the story of 20th century aviation and its development, and it all culminates in the big hangar that Soarin' is housed in. Grizzly Peak Airfield is now placed in the year 1961, but has all the buildings tracing the history of California aviation all still there, but repurposed by '61.
In the early 1920's aviation took off (the tour guide's pun, not mine) in California with gearheads and tinkerers, and they were often based out of gas station garages. And by the late 1920's many garages were expanded with custom built garages made for biplanes, and the first open-air "control towers" were built at airfields. Humphrey's gas station represents that era, with a building that started as an early 1920's gas station and was expanded by the late 20's to include an airplane garage and small tower. The 1920's were a dynamic decade for aviation in California.
1920 gas station on one end, updated to 1961 tourist use...
Circa 1928 expanded station/airfield tower on the other end...
In the 1930's aviators were finally working out of custom built facilities made for aircraft. The first real "hangars" were born, and new California companies were setting up shop in them that would go on to great things; Douglas, Lockheed, etc.. The Grizzly Peak version of this 1930's long-low hangar architecture has been repurposed for... bathrooms!
Then the 1940's and the war arrived, and California aviation turned from civilian fun to wartime work to beat the Germans and Japanese with superior air power. The famous Quonset Hut design was invented by the Army Air Corps, and Quonset huts were built all over the place for airplane maintenance and manufacturing. Grizzly Peak's original World War II Quonset hut is now home to a hamburger stand and the local firefighting air brigade that protects California's forests; Smokejumpers Grill.
After America won the war the servicemen returned home and many got jobs in California's growing aerospace industry. The Space Race was on in the 1950's, and California was home to many big companies aiming for the moon and beyond. Giant Space Age hangars were built to house both the commercial jets under production in California, and the towering rockets for the nation's space program. The 1950's era super-hangar in Grizzly Peak Airfield is used to house the popular Soarin' attraction.
Which brings us to 1961 and the tourist-friendly Grizzly Peak Airfield. Which actually brings us to the 21st century and Disney California Adventure's story of California adventures. The tour guide told us the queue and interiors of Soarin' will be re-Imagineered in spring 2016 for a multi-month refurbishment prior to the new global Soarin' films debut. The re-design of Soarin's original 2001 queue will help strengthen the plotline and story of Grizzly Peak Airfield, and set up the plot of heading out on a great adventure on this tinker-toy like flying contraption inside the theaters.
It makes a lot of sense when the tour guide explains all the Imagineering behind it. But it can get lost on people just rushing through to get their Soarin' Fastpass on their way to Cars Land. Like most things in Disney theme parks, you have to slow down and take it all in to appreciate it. And it also helps if a pretty Disneyland tour guide explains it to you.
I asked the guide about the Epcot version and if it would be getting the global film at the same time (this was back before that news hit these boards), but she didn't have any information about the Epcot version. So I have no idea if the Epcot queue will be re-Imagineered for the new global movie.
Like I said, you go to your church, I'll go to mine. Part of the problem with many complainers is that they are not allowing themselves to get into the feel. They are way to busy looking for the "plot holes". Doing that will indeed stifle ones ability to suspend and beyond that even enjoy the event to the fullest. Sad, way to be, in my opinion. There were many plot holes even back in Walt's day as well as today. Anyone that looks for flaws will inevitably find them.
I took the Walt's California guided tour at DCA earlier this year. The guide spent 20 minutes explaining the details of Grizzly Peak Airfield and how it tells the exciting story of California's aviation and aerospace history. All of the buildings in Grizzly Peak Airfield were designed specifically to tell the story of 20th century aviation and its development, and it all culminates in the big hangar that Soarin' is housed in. Grizzly Peak Airfield is now placed in the year 1961, but has all the buildings tracing the history of California aviation all still there, but repurposed by '61.
In the early 1920's aviation took off (the tour guide's pun, not mine) in California with gearheads and tinkerers, and they were often based out of gas station garages. And by the late 1920's many garages were expanded with custom built garages made for biplanes, and the first open-air "control towers" were built at airfields. Humphrey's gas station represents that era, with a building that started as an early 1920's gas station and was expanded by the late 20's to include an airplane garage and small tower. The 1920's were a dynamic decade for aviation in California.
1920 gas station on one end, updated to 1961 tourist use...
Circa 1928 expanded station/airfield tower on the other end...
In the 1930's aviators were finally working out of custom built facilities made for aircraft. The first real "hangars" were born, and new California companies were setting up shop in them that would go on to great things; Douglas, Lockheed, etc.. The Grizzly Peak version of this 1930's long-low hangar architecture has been repurposed for... bathrooms!
Then the 1940's and the war arrived, and California aviation turned from civilian fun to wartime work to beat the Germans and Japanese with superior air power. The famous Quonset Hut design was invented by the Army Air Corps, and Quonset huts were built all over the place for airplane maintenance and manufacturing. Grizzly Peak's original World War II Quonset hut is now home to a hamburger stand and the local firefighting air brigade that protects California's forests; Smokejumpers Grill.
After America won the war the servicemen returned home and many got jobs in California's growing aerospace industry. The Space Race was on in the 1950's, and California was home to many big companies aiming for the moon and beyond. Giant Space Age hangars were built to house both the commercial jets under production in California, and the towering rockets for the nation's space program. The 1950's era super-hangar in Grizzly Peak Airfield is used to house the popular Soarin' attraction.
Which brings us to 1961 and the tourist-friendly Grizzly Peak Airfield. Which actually brings us to the 21st century and Disney California Adventure's story of California adventures. The tour guide told us the queue and interiors of Soarin' will be re-Imagineered in spring 2016 for a multi-month refurbishment prior to the new global Soarin' films debut. The re-design of Soarin's original 2001 queue will help strengthen the plotline and story of Grizzly Peak Airfield, and set up the plot of heading out on a great adventure on this tinker-toy like flying contraption inside the theaters.
It makes a lot of sense when the tour guide explains all the Imagineering behind it. But it can get lost on people just rushing through to get their Soarin' Fastpass on their way to Cars Land. Like most things in Disney theme parks, you have to slow down and take it all in to appreciate it. And it also helps if a pretty Disneyland tour guide explains it to you.
I asked the guide about the Epcot version and if it would be getting the global film at the same time (this was back before that news hit these boards), but she didn't have any information about the Epcot version. So I have no idea if the Epcot queue will be re-Imagineered for the new global movie.
Well that stinks, I was holding out hope I could see the current version one more time in February...
Yes, I recognize that we agree. I am not attempting to say that we disagree on the end result. I am merely expressing how we arrive at it from two different directions. Nothing wrong with that at all. Just different approaches and mind sets to get us both to the same place. Your direction isn't incorrect nor is mine, but, it is different in how we look at it or picture it in our minds. That is sometimes the beauty of Disney. It doesn't matter how we get there, what's important is that we end up in the same place, and happy.
I don't believe you.
Am I the only one that caught the second to last paragraph of this article?
Well, I am just going to have to suspend my disbelief concerning that comment. There... it's gone and now I'm pretty sure you believe me. Thanks for the challenge though!
(As I go skipping away happily.)
They just did that in California. The word for some time now has been that the new film will debut with and be briefly exclusive to Shanghai Disneyland. The link also says that 6 months is the maximum time they have heard but aren't confident about such a long time for the ride to be closed.
Yeah I don't buy this report. I would think having Soarin down without Frozen being open would cause Test Track to implode. I can't even imagine what that park would look like when it rains and Test Track can't operate...
It was 4 1/2 months.
I am pretty sure they did one side at a time at DCA. This is not possible at Epcot due to the already massive wait time. Imagine the firestorm of guest complaints that would arise from Soarin' running at best 50% of normal capicity.
Would the guest complaints be any worse than it being closed entirely?
