Soarin' Expansion and new Soarin' Around the World film

[lazyboy97o]

Makes me wonder how they found their way to the park at all. Are people that easily confused? Really? I don't think so. It's just one of those little things that have no consequence, but are blown up to be a problem that doesn't really exist. If "Soarin over California" hadn't ever existed, they could show the same film and people wouldn't be able to find any fault with it.

Except those who are familiar with geography and Disneyland.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Except those who are familiar with geography and Disneyland.

Of course everyone is familiar with Disneyland and the Golden Gate bridge, but, the rest of that scenery could have been in multiple places in the United States other then California. California doesn't hold the copyright on nature. In that respect those two that I just mentioned above would or could have been a part of the country as a whole and California's contribution. Not everyone is familiar with the topography of California, in fact I would submit that most people that don't live there are not, which is why it really didn't matter. It's just another example of a made up problem that really didn't and still doesn't exist.

Unless those people that are getting all confused are brain dead, they don't exist either. They are in a Disney Park. They are in a place called Walt Disney World. What better place is there to showcase Disneyland, the place that started it all. The location is not the draw for Soarin, the ride is. It could have been flying over anywhere, the affect of the ride would have remained the same.

That's not to say that it wouldn't have been cool to see Cinderella Castle in the film at WDW, it was really not a vital part of the overall ride, and shouldn't have ruined it for anyone. For those that did, all I can say is flexibility is your friend. Lighten up a bit.

 

[halltd]

Unless those people that are getting all confused are brain dead, they don't exist either. They are in a Disney Park. They are in a place called Walt Disney World. What better place is there to showcase Disneyland, the place that started it all. The location is not the draw for Soarin, the ride is. It could have been flying over anywhere, the affect of the ride would have remained the same.

You'd be surprised how many people don't know the difference between Walt Disney World and Disneyland (most people call it Disney World and sometimes write it Disneyworld). You'd also be surprised how many people don't know the castles are different at park. Have you noticed that when you call the booking hotline for Disney now they actually ask if you're calling about the "Walt Disney World resort in Florida or the Disneyland resort in California"? Lots of people don't even know Disneyland was the first one.

Seriously, not everyone know's the difference.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Of course everyone is familiar with Disneyland and the Golden Gate bridge, but, the rest of that scenery could have been in multiple places in the United States other then California. California doesn't hold the copyright on nature. In that respect those two that I just mentioned above would or could have been a part of the country as a whole and California's contribution. Not everyone is familiar with the topography of California, in fact I would submit that most people that don't live there are not, which is why it really didn't matter. It's just another example of a made up problem that really didn't and still doesn't exist.

Unless those people that are getting all confused are brain dead, they don't exist either. They are in a Disney Park. They are in a place called Walt Disney World. What better place is there to showcase Disneyland, the place that started it all. The location is not the draw for Soarin, the ride is. It could have been flying over anywhere, the affect of the ride would have remained the same.

That's not to say that it wouldn't have been cool to see Cinderella Castle in the film at WDW, it was really not a vital part of the overall ride, and shouldn't have ruined it for anyone. For those that did, all I can say is flexibility is your friend. Lighten up a bit.

I think you are giving Disney too much credit for putting Soarin' Over California in WDW with minimal modification from the original. It was a lazy move and the only reason we are finally getting an appropriate film is because the folks running the Shanghai project think it is absurd to show scenes from California outside of the Disneyland Resort. We benefit from their willingness to pay for the new film coupled with our need for added capacity and, therefore, construction at Soarin. The existing show has never made any sense in Epcot, let alone Future World, let alone The Land.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I think you are giving Disney too much credit for putting Soarin' Over California in WDW with minimal modification from the original. It was a lazy move and the only reason we are finally getting an appropriate film is because the folks running the Shanghai project think it is absurd to show scenes from California outside of the Disneyland Resort. We benefit from their willingness to pay for the new film coupled with our need for added capacity and, therefore, construction at Soarin. The existing show has never made any sense in Epcot, let alone Future World, let alone The Land.

It was kept the way it was because it was a "lender"** for the 50th Anniversary of Disneyland. It wasn't something that they ever intended to be modified for WDW and there was and still is no reason to do so. It's a fun ride and that is the focus, what you are looking at is only there so you aren't looking at a blank screen. Not only that, but, a production like that requires a lot of time. The photography, it isn't filmed with an I-phone, the planning, the development of the musical compliment. It's not just a walk in the park. It still has thousands of people that see it everyday, 5 years later, it just doesn't matter what it is showing.

They are doing a new show and if that connection is China, well, what reason would China want people looking at California or any other part of the United States. That's why it is being changed and it is, of course, a perfect opportunity to have an assistance in who is paying the bill. Just logical. It doesn't diminish what we already have, but, it is time for a new one even though there are, literally, millions of people that have never seen it even once. Again, much ado about nothing.

** "lender" meaning Disneyland (DCA) contribution to WDW for the celebration.

 

[Goofyernmost]

You'd be surprised how many people don't know the difference between Walt Disney World and Disneyland (most people call it Disney World and sometimes write it Disneyworld). You'd also be surprised how many people don't know the castles are different at park. Have you noticed that when you call the booking hotline for Disney now they actually ask if you're calling about the "Walt Disney World resort in Florida or the Disneyland resort in California"? Lots of people don't even know Disneyland was the first one.

Seriously, not everyone know's the difference.

Which is exactly the reason why the location is not in the least bit important. If they don't know the difference between Disneyland and WDW, then the surely don't know if that river you fly over is in California or New Hampshire. Since they don't know the difference between the name and location of DL vs. WDW is vitally important just serves to reinforce the idea that the location of the filming location is completely unimportant.

 

[Biff215]

To be fair, the attraction isn't called that in Florida. Out here, it's simply called Soarin'. Granted, all the scenery featured is in California, but there is nothing in our version that specifically indicates that. To somebody not versed in the attraction's history and unfamiliar with the scenery featured, the ending randomly showcasing Disneyland at Christmastime can be a little jarring.

A trip over California is specifically indicated by audio announcements in the queue and the sign at the bottom of the ramp. While not in the title, they did find subtle ways to convey that information.

 

[prfctlyximprct]

To be fair, the attraction isn't called that in Florida. Out here, it's simply called Soarin'. Granted, all the scenery featured is in California, but there is nothing in our version that specifically indicates that. To somebody not versed in the attraction's history and unfamiliar with the scenery featured, the ending randomly showcasing Disneyland at Christmastime can be a little jarring.

Meh, I think the Golden Gate Bridge is a pretty DEAD giveaway. And the fact that there's snow and skiing in the scenes. Maybe I just know geography a little bit better than the average Disney guest. (and that's not saying much!)

While I do get your point, I guess I just over estimated on people's IQs.

 

[Clamman73]

All I know is that California sure looks like a dusty place to be in...

 

[Goofyernmost]

Meh, I think the Golden Gate Bridge is a pretty DEAD giveaway. And the fact that there's snow and skiing in the scenes. Maybe I just know geography a little bit better than the average Disney guest. (and that's not saying much!)

While I do get your point, I guess I just over estimated on people's IQs.

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Is it that the only place in the country where you can find snow and skiing is California or are you being sarcastic? Are there no Golf Courses anywhere but California? Does California have the market cornered on desert areas? Is it the only state that borders on an ocean? Is the only place where you can canoe down a river is in California? Is the only military ship port in California? The only big city with night-time heavy traffic is in California? Are oranges only grown in California? Do they not fly hot air balloons any where but California? The only two things that specifically say California would be The Golden Gate Bridge and Disneyland.

 

[1023]

Meh, I think the Golden Gate Bridge is a pretty DEAD giveaway. And the fact that there's snow and skiing in the scenes. Maybe I just know geography a little bit better than the average Disney guest. (and that's not saying much!)

While I do get your point, I guess I just over estimated on people's IQs.

It's not worth your time to invest in that one sided conversation. Trust me, I've been there several times.

*1023*

 

[prfctlyximprct]

It's not worth your time to invest in that one sided conversation. Trust me, I've been there several times.

*1023*

Haha, I got better things to do than show off my geography skills

Thanks for the time-saving tip.. gots to go work out!

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

A trip over California is specifically indicated by audio announcements in the queue and the sign at the bottom of the ramp. While not in the title, they did find subtle ways to convey that information.

I guess I've never noticed any of that. I'm usually on my phone in the queue for Soarin'. Talk about horribly done.

Meh, I think the Golden Gate Bridge is a pretty DEAD giveaway. And the fact that there's snow and skiing in the scenes. Maybe I just know geography a little bit better than the average Disney guest. (and that's not saying much!)

While I do get your point, I guess I just over estimated on people's IQs.

I think the Golden Gate Bridge is probably the only instantly recognizable thing in the film. The snowy mountains and skiing could be any number of places. I totally get your point, and couldn't honestly care less if the film ends in MK or DL, I was just playing devil's advocate that I could see why the ending could be construed as confusing. I love the attraction, but honestly also find the whole thing a little lazy.

It's not worth your time to invest in that one sided conversation. Trust me, I've been there several times.

*1023*

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here? She was replying to me, what one sided conversations about Soarin' have you and I had? I don't have any horse in this race, I was just pointing out why some find the Disneyland ending problematic. I have legitimately heard countless guests mention their confusion as to where the ending was supposed to be taking place. Never underestimate the stupidity of the average tourist.

The only real issue I have with the ending is that the park is clearly decorated for Christmas. It seems they should have filmed it when MSUSA was just decorated as it usually is.

 

[1023]

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here? She was replying to me, what one sided conversations about Soarin' have you and I had? I don't have any horse in this race, I was just pointing out why some find the Disneyland ending problematic. I have legitimately heard countless guests mention their confusion as to where the ending was supposed to be taking place. Never underestimate the stupidity of the average tourist.

The only real issue I have with the ending is that the park is clearly decorated for Christmas. It seems they should have filmed it when MSUSA was just decorated as it usually is.

She was quoted in that exchange with another. That was the refereed to conversation.

*1023*

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

She was quoted in that exchange with another. That was the refereed to conversation.

*1023*

Ah, my mistake. Carry on!

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Too bad they couldn't use the technology like Star Tours and have different locations that you could soar over. But that would make it that much more popular. It's a shame that they didn't build the rumored fourth theatre. If Star Wars Land has some sort of a Soarin version at DHS , they build plenty of theaters right off the bat. Get it done right the first time"

 

[1023]

Too bad they couldn't use the technology like Star Tours and have different locations that you could soar over. But that would make it that much more popular. It's a shame that they didn't build the rumored fourth theatre. If Star Wars Land has some sort of a Soarin version at DHS , they build plenty of theaters right off the bat. Get it done right the first time"

Well.... Ummm.... varying scenes......

*1023*

 

[Luxe]

I know some people aren't going to agree with me but...

As much as the queue for Soarin' sucks, I almost prefer it to the version in Disneyland. To me the Grizzly Peaks Air Hangar theme doesn't make any sense in relation to the ride. You're flying a hang glider not a plane. What does a hangar have to do with hang gliding? Don't get me wrong, that whole Grizzly Peaks area in Disneyland is absolutely beautiful it's just the build up of the queue to the ride doesn't make sense to me. Maybe someone could explain it to me so I understand but it seems convoluted.

 

[Goofyernmost]

My brother always thought the desert scene was Yuma, AZ with the military jets. He trains there regularly and thought it looked just like it.
When he saw the desert- he said "that looks like Yuma". When he saw the planes he said "yup, that's definitely Yuma"

The skiing could have been Colorado, the surfing in Hawaii, the oranges in Florida, and the rafting in Montana.

Note: my brother isn't an idiot, nor geographically challenged. He just didn't know that it was a "port" from the California version.


Although, I do agree with @DisneyExpert that the Christmas Main Street is a cheap effort and look forward to a much better film.

If I were a betting person, there will not be a park depicted in the new film. They not only have learned there lesson, but, are painfully aware about how much it would cost to do a different ending for each film. There might be some generic park picture someplace, but, I don't think it will end with one.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I know some people aren't going to agree with me but...

As much as the queue for Soarin' sucks, I almost prefer it to the version in Disneyland. To me the Grizzly Peaks Air Hangar theme doesn't make any sense in relation to the ride. You're flying a hang glider not a plane. What does a hangar have to do with hang gliding? Don't get me wrong, that whole Grizzly Peaks area in Disneyland is absolutely beautiful it's just the build up of the queue to the ride doesn't make sense to me. Maybe someone could explain it to me so I understand but it seems convoluted.

Well, it is themed as a aviation type thing, but, flying is the only connection.