Soarin' Expansion and new Soarin' Around the World film

lazyboy97o

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If I were a betting person, there will not be a park depicted in the new film. They not only have learned there lesson, but, are painfully aware about how much it would cost to do a different ending for each film. There might be some generic park picture someplace, but, I don't think it will end with one.
The park flyovers have been filmed at the Disneyland Resort and EPCOT Center.
 

1023

Provocateur, Rancanteur, Plaisanter, du Jour
I know some people aren't going to agree with me but...

As much as the queue for Soarin' sucks, I almost prefer it to the version in Disneyland. To me the Grizzly Peaks Air Hangar theme doesn't make any sense in relation to the ride. You're flying a hang glider not a plane. What does a hangar have to do with hang gliding? Don't get me wrong, that whole Grizzly Peaks area in Disneyland is absolutely beautiful it's just the build up of the queue to the ride doesn't make sense to me. Maybe someone could explain it to me so I understand but it seems convoluted.
Well. Since I am "soaring" I know I am in a Sailplane some people refer to as a glider. Mine is an ASH25M 2 seat sailplane and you are lucky to be "soaring" with me. It takes time for our tow plane to get us above the clouds, so you took a nap and that's why it went dark. Now I am touring you over the landscapes of California on epic thermals at unprecedented speeds. I hope you just sat back and enjoyed. There are a lot of other people waiting in line for me to do it all over again for them.

*1023*
 

Luxe

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Well. Since I am "soaring" I know I am in a Sailplane some people refer to as a glider. Mine is an ASH25M 2 seat sailplane and you are lucky to be "soaring" with me. It takes time for our tow plane to get us above the clouds, so you took a nap and that's why it went dark. Now I am touring you over the landscapes of California on epic thermals at unprecedented speeds. I hope you just sat back and enjoyed. There are a lot of other people waiting in line for me to do it all over again for them.

*1023*

Thank's for the laugh, it's been a long Monday :D
 

doctornick

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If I were a betting person, there will not be a park depicted in the new film. They not only have learned there lesson, but, are painfully aware about how much it would cost to do a different ending for each film. There might be some generic park picture someplace, but, I don't think it will end with one.

Yeah, you probably don't want to make that bet since there was well established reports of Disney making recordings over both DLR and WDW for the new film.

My question is whether there will be any sort of variation between the films in different parks or (even better) a variable element like Star Tours that changes with each viewing. Or will it be the same film at each park except for the ending.
 

Goofyernmost

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Yeah, you probably don't want to make that bet since there was well established reports of Disney making recordings over both DLR and WDW for the new film.

My question is whether there will be any sort of variation between the films in different parks or (even better) a variable element like Star Tours that changes with each viewing. Or will it be the same film at each park except for the ending.
I hope that is true. Sadly, not everything that is filmed is used so until we see it, it remains a mystery. Incidentally, I said "if I were a betting man", not I'm betting on it. So it's all good.
 

French Quarter

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I know some people aren't going to agree with me but...

As much as the queue for Soarin' sucks, I almost prefer it to the version in Disneyland. To me the Grizzly Peaks Air Hangar theme doesn't make any sense in relation to the ride. You're flying a hang glider not a plane. What does a hangar have to do with hang gliding? Don't get me wrong, that whole Grizzly Peaks area in Disneyland is absolutely beautiful it's just the build up of the queue to the ride doesn't make sense to me. Maybe someone could explain it to me so I understand but it seems convoluted.

I have never hang glided in real life so this might be an ignorant question. But don't you need a tow plane to get the glider up in the air. Wouldn't you start out in a hangar?
 

Goofyernmost

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Huh? I'm the one saying that I think the hangar theme fits. I am picturing a tow plane taking the hang glider up in the sky and letting it rip. I have no problem believing it.
OK, whatever rows your boat. It's fine to imagine that, the only possible problem, which really isn't a problem is that it is supposed to be simulating a hang glider which cannot be pulled up with a plane, an actual glider plane can, so your statement that it is a high cliff is probably how it becomes more believable, but, whatever works for you.:)

I have no way of knowing what they were thinking at the time, but, since it is flying and they really couldn't simulate diving off a cliff, they went with the standard aviation theme. And yes it does work.
 

Herah

Active Member
I think part of the problem is that the safety restraints aren't like a hang glider's - they're more like an airplane's. And airliners have safety spiels. So they do an airliner theme through the spiel, and then magically switch to the hang glider.
 

1023

Provocateur, Rancanteur, Plaisanter, du Jour
I think part of the problem is that the safety restraints aren't like a hang glider's - they're more like an airplane's. And airliners have safety spiels. So they do an airliner theme through the spiel, and then magically switch to the hang glider.
Nope...Still a Sailplane...(or a "Glider" for the common folk.)

*1023*
 

TP2000

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As much as the queue for Soarin' sucks, I almost prefer it to the version in Disneyland. To me the Grizzly Peaks Air Hangar theme doesn't make any sense in relation to the ride. You're flying a hang glider not a plane. What does a hangar have to do with hang gliding? Don't get me wrong, that whole Grizzly Peaks area in Disneyland is absolutely beautiful it's just the build up of the queue to the ride doesn't make sense to me. Maybe someone could explain it to me so I understand but it seems convoluted.

I took the Walt's California guided tour at DCA earlier this year. The guide spent 20 minutes explaining the details of Grizzly Peak Airfield and how it tells the exciting story of California's aviation and aerospace history. All of the buildings in Grizzly Peak Airfield were designed specifically to tell the story of 20th century aviation and its development, and it all culminates in the big hangar that Soarin' is housed in. Grizzly Peak Airfield is now placed in the year 1961, but has all the buildings tracing the history of California aviation all still there, but repurposed by '61.

In the early 1920's aviation took off (the tour guide's pun, not mine) in California with gearheads and tinkerers, and they were often based out of gas station garages. And by the late 1920's many garages were expanded with custom built garages made for biplanes, and the first open-air "control towers" were built at airfields. Humphrey's gas station represents that era, with a building that started as an early 1920's gas station and was expanded by the late 20's to include an airplane garage and small tower. The 1920's were a dynamic decade for aviation in California.

1920 gas station on one end, updated to 1961 tourist use...
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Circa 1928 expanded station/airfield tower on the other end...
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In the 1930's aviators were finally working out of custom built facilities made for aircraft. The first real "hangars" were born, and new California companies were setting up shop in them that would go on to great things; Douglas, Lockheed, etc.. The Grizzly Peak version of this 1930's long-low hangar architecture has been repurposed for... bathrooms!
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Then the 1940's and the war arrived, and California aviation turned from civilian fun to wartime work to beat the Germans and Japanese with superior air power. The famous Quonset Hut design was invented by the Army Air Corps, and Quonset huts were built all over the place for airplane maintenance and manufacturing. Grizzly Peak's original World War II Quonset hut is now home to a hamburger stand and the local firefighting air brigade that protects California's forests; Smokejumpers Grill.
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After America won the war the servicemen returned home and many got jobs in California's growing aerospace industry. The Space Race was on in the 1950's, and California was home to many big companies aiming for the moon and beyond. Giant Space Age hangars were built to house both the commercial jets under production in California, and the towering rockets for the nation's space program. The 1950's era super-hangar in Grizzly Peak Airfield is used to house the popular Soarin' attraction.
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Which brings us to 1961 and the tourist-friendly Grizzly Peak Airfield. Which actually brings us to the 21st century and Disney California Adventure's story of California adventures. The tour guide told us the queue and interiors of Soarin' will be re-Imagineered in spring 2016 for a multi-month refurbishment prior to the new global Soarin' films debut. The re-design of Soarin's original 2001 queue will help strengthen the plotline and story of Grizzly Peak Airfield, and set up the plot of heading out on a great adventure on this tinker-toy like flying contraption inside the theaters.

It makes a lot of sense when the tour guide explains all the Imagineering behind it. But it can get lost on people just rushing through to get their Soarin' Fastpass on their way to Cars Land. Like most things in Disney theme parks, you have to slow down and take it all in to appreciate it. And it also helps if a pretty Disneyland tour guide explains it to you. ;)

I asked the guide about the Epcot version and if it would be getting the global film at the same time (this was back before that news hit these boards), but she didn't have any information about the Epcot version. So I have no idea if the Epcot queue will be re-Imagineered for the new global movie.
 
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French Quarter

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OK, whatever rows your boat. It's fine to imagine that, the only possible problem, which really isn't a problem is that it is supposed to be simulating a hang glider which cannot be pulled up with a plane, an actual glider plane can, so your statement that it is a high cliff is probably how it becomes more believable, but, whatever works for you.:)

I have no way of knowing what they were thinking at the time, but, since it is flying and they really couldn't simulate diving off a cliff, they went with the standard aviation theme. And yes it does work.

You do realize that you are actually agreeing with me, right? I am saying that the pre-show works very well. What is it you think we are arguing about? I'm lost.
 

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