Exactly. If someone notices I’m told I smell like “vanilla cupcakes”. Oh noes, the horror...unless they ban the cologne and perfume people seem to douse themselves in, I don’t wanna hear it.Sounds like you are just being over sensitive. Playing the victim. But obviously if you can’t smell something it doesn’t have a scent. Your offended because you want to be. Life is better when you aren’t trying to make others live by your made up rules.
But you want security trained to search for, locate, and confiscate tobacco. Honestly I’d rather they focus on weapons, and the nut case gun humpers that would being them in, as opposed to some guy’s pack of Camel Lights.The legal basis of a "dangerous" item isn't needed though of course the argument could be made. Disney is private property. You agree to play by their rules by entering their property. And I know they won't ban the products, I was simply offering my opinion on how to save the CMs the trouble of that "oh gee do I risk getting screamed/spit at to do my job with this person smoking right now" inner debate. IF Disney had chosen this route it would be as simple as any other prohibited item.
But it may be enough to cause an asthma attack, which is no fun either.Exactly. People blow second hand smoke way out of proportion. Indoors they have a very valid point, but you’re not going to get cancer from getting a few whiffs of a cigarette for a minute or two while you’re on the steamboat passing the smoking section in Frontierland. I’m sorry, but you’re not.
I believe Disney Springs is included. I read announcements on several different news sites and saw it included as part of the ban multiple times. Possible I misinterpreted, of course. I’m still happy with the ban regardless.The timing is quick, but I'm guessing they want all these new policies in place and the CMs accustomed to it before Star Wars? The rules are for both WDW and DLR. I assume they're expecting SW:GE to draw new guests who have no previous park experiences.
ETA: Downtown Disney in California is also included in this. But Disney Springs hasn't been mentioned in any stories I've seen, which is interesting.
Understandable... But this risk is ever present out in the real world. Does the Disney Bubble™ now extend to eliminating all potential risks to an individual?But it may be enough to cause an asthma attack, which is no fun either.
THIS,, this is genius and right on!This won't go well.
Listen, I don't like cigarette smoke either, but to expect someone who is addicted to cigarettes to walk from American Adventure, or Rafiki's Planet Watch, to the front gate is fantasy talk. They won't walk miles for a cigarette, at best they'll find an isolated space and at worst they'll light up as they walk to their next destination.
Keeping the smoking areas is a better solution and if there are that many complaints about open air smoke, then sealed smoking rooms with smoke eater air filters and some comfortable seating is the best choice. Just because someone smokes a cigarette, doesn't make them sub-human and worthy of scorn. Make the areas appealing to smokers and they will happily seek them out.
It's not so much about cancer in my case. Every time I walk by a smoking area accidentally (some of them have been very poorly placed), I get a big whiff of smoke, and then I start coughing and wheezing. Then I usually have to take my inhaler. If it's a cigar, I have an even more serious reaction. My maternal grandmother was a smoker, and then she developed an allergy to cigarettes. Like, breaking out in hives from it. That made her quit real fast.Exactly. People blow second hand smoke way out of proportion. Indoors they have a very valid point, but you’re not going to get cancer from getting a few whiffs of a cigarette for a minute or two while you’re on the steamboat passing the smoking section in Frontierland. I’m sorry, but you’re not.
Right, they should just put him in shackles and drag him/her down to jail in front of their kids.The only way this works is if they forbid tobacco products inside the gate, Disney wouldn’t have to be strict about it for everyone but if someone complains about another person smoking it would empower CM and security to ask that person to turn out their pockets if they have smoking parafenalia you either turn it over or get kicked out.
I'm not telling you what to do. Smoke all you want but not around others that don't want to be around it. Especially a park full of children. You are denying that second hand smoke affects others? Again, if smoking did not affect others, it would not be an issue.Don't tell me what to do, I know it's bad, bUT it's my choice. I go to the corner out of everyone's way and not around children in the designated areas. As someone who follows the rules, I don't appreciate being shamed for a choice I make that isn't harming anyone but me.
As an asthmatic, I can tell you I have problems way more at WDW than I have with other public places as far as encountering cigarette smoke. Especially with smoking areas that were not off the beaten path. And smokers lighting up wherever in WDW too. That's my main concern with getting rid of them altogether. Day to day at home, I practically never encounter smoke.Understandable... But this risk is ever present out in the real world. Does the Disney Bubble™ now extend to eliminating all potential risks to an individual?
Granted, a bit far flung example - but where does one draw the line?
Good point. I always feel bad for the dogs there because the hot pavement can't be comfortable on their paws.I am horridly allergiic to Dogs.. unless it is a poodle breed- will they ban or restict them, especially from being in lines for food? That is insanely gross! Hair flying up everywhere.
All of the laws in existence, and any laws enacted in the future, are meaningless to those who choose to ignore them.
I spent the larger part of my adult life enforcing those laws and I can tell you that if a person wants to drive under the influence of alcohol, or some other substance, they will do so with zero regard for the consequences, feelings of others, or mayhem caused by their actions.
Alcohol is responsible for 88,000 or more deaths per year in the U.S. and that figure continues to rise.
Stronger laws are nothing more than a placebo that makes righteous people feel good."Culturally, we’ve made it acceptable to drink but not to go out and shoot up heroin."www.newsweek.com
Mankind is not hard wired to obey laws.
They must want to obey those laws in order for them to be effective.
Disney's smoking laws will only drive those determined to smoke to new levels of stealth to accomplish their desire to feed their addiction.