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Smoking areas GONE starting may 1st Pinned so people can still see the announcement.
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Gitson Shiggles
There was me, that is Mickey, and my three droogs
Less smoking emotional support dogs?
Patcheslee
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Bet Disney is going to see an increase in gum use and snack purchases.
UncleMike101
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All of the laws in existence, and any laws enacted in the future, are meaningless to those who choose to ignore them.
I spent the larger part of my adult life enforcing those laws and I can tell you that if a person wants to drive under the influence of alcohol, or some other substance, they will do so with zero regard for the consequences, feelings of others, or mayhem caused by their actions.
Alcohol is responsible for 88,000 or more deaths per year in the U.S. and that figure continues to rise.
Alcohol Deaths Rise Above Opioid Fatalities
"Culturally, we've made it acceptable to drink but not to go out and shoot up heroin."
www.newsweek.com
Mankind is not hard wired to obey laws.
They must want to obey those laws in order for them to be effective.
Disney's smoking laws will only drive those determined to smoke to new levels of stealth to accomplish their desire to feed their addiction.
wdwjmp239
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It's going to suck if you're waiting 3 hours in line for Flight of Passage and you have the need to smoke. To the front of the park you go! Happy trails! #NotASmoker
scott_walker
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Are they going to employ more people for security and the turnstiles?
BoarderPhreak
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Hold my beer... And welcome to page 30!
DisneyGigi
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Gum yes... food not so much- most people crave a cigarette more after eating. I will avoid food or snacks if I cannot smoke after I eat. I don’t smoke very much either, but would like to be able to without exiting the park. I sent an email just now, but from a reply on Twitter asking whether or not cigarettes or vapes would be banned inside the park, the reply was this-
using them is prohibited, having them apparently is not. It is not on the listing prohibited items that the official Walt Disney World Twitter posted.
Paper straw fan
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I don’t really smoke, I’ll have one as a sort of night cap at the end of a long week, or day at WDW, usually back at the resort. I get that not everywhere you put a designated smoker area (DSA) will be a spot non smokers can avoid- I’ve walked thru the winding paths at AK because that area is pretty, but I’m not going to walk thru there when it’s covered in smokers either.
It’d be nice if they could just find a spot behind a wall or divider in the parks so that people can still just duck out and have one without having to exit the park. And, I agree that if you outright ban it in the park, you’re just going to have groups stand right outside exits (where people will have more unavoidable encounters with smokers than they would in park DSA’s)
And unfortunately some people will, due to their addiction, have to keep leaving the parks to go to whatever outside the park DSA’s to go smoke, which in turn will kind of screw up the day of whomever is with them.
It’s one thing to have to walk right thru a smoking area as a non smoker. That sucks. Even as an extremely light smoker I hate walking thru it. It’s another thing to just catch a whiff of smoke and flip out like some people do.
“Ugh, smokers! This is outrageous I have CHILDREN! - oh hey, let’s go wait an hour to ride at Tomorrowland Speedway!”
If they outright ban smoking everywhere is exactly when you’ll be getting people lighting up on ferry boats, bathrooms, next to your car in the parking lot, outside your resort hotel room, etc, and you’ll wish they were back in their little sections in the park.
It’d be nice if they could just find a spot behind a wall or divider in the parks so that people can still just duck out and have one without having to exit the park. And, I agree that if you outright ban it in the park, you’re just going to have groups stand right outside exits (where people will have more unavoidable encounters with smokers than they would in park DSA’s)
And unfortunately some people will, due to their addiction, have to keep leaving the parks to go to whatever outside the park DSA’s to go smoke, which in turn will kind of screw up the day of whomever is with them.
It’s one thing to have to walk right thru a smoking area as a non smoker. That sucks. Even as an extremely light smoker I hate walking thru it. It’s another thing to just catch a whiff of smoke and flip out like some people do.
“Ugh, smokers! This is outrageous I have CHILDREN! - oh hey, let’s go wait an hour to ride at Tomorrowland Speedway!”
If they outright ban smoking everywhere is exactly when you’ll be getting people lighting up on ferry boats, bathrooms, next to your car in the parking lot, outside your resort hotel room, etc, and you’ll wish they were back in their little sections in the park.
Patcheslee
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I ate more when I attempted to quit because the smoking is an appetite suppressant.
DisneyGigi
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That it is, but if you are not quitting and only having to not crave a cigarette as much while at a theme park- don’t eat as much and you won’t have that longing for an after snack -meal smoke. Anytime I have quit I actually lose weight, because I am terrified of gaining weight.
dreamfinder912
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I think it'd be much easier from an enforcement standpoint to just...not let cigarettes and e-cigs IN. Granted that would require a security team that did more than jostle your belongings a bit and shoo you in, but it would keep the burden off the lone CM trying to get someone to stop smoking.
jaklgreen
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The trail in AK you can not only smell the smoke on the walkway, but also sitting in the Harambe Market eating. Smoke does not just stay in the area where people are. I had no idea that there was a smoking path back there because you can not see it until I kept smelling the smoke walking by and checked the map. This is just walking the path from Africa to Asia. And I could always smell the smoke while in the People Mover(one of my favorite rides) from when they had the smoking area by SM and from the walkway. Some people can't smell anything to save their lives, but I can smell very well, which is a curse.
Scrooged
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That was going to be my question- does this extend to e-cigs. I’m tired of the “do you even vape, bro?” people in lines. I love your smoke tricks.. that’s real nice- but I didn’t pay to stand in a line that smells like a fruit flavored smog machine.
jaklgreen
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That is a very good point. No one should be subjected to smoke while on the job.
BoarderPhreak
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Being that neither of those are illegal, or a safety issue (with additional legalities) like guns and knives - there's no legal basis for confiscating them. Can they not let you into the park? Sure. But why have an area outside of the park to smoke at all, then? And what about people staying at resorts on property - or worse, off-property? Will lockers be provided outside of the parks? No, none of that will work. More importantly, these people won't be in the parks, spending money.
It's going to be up to the $15/hour worker.
you would think so, but at times the smell was pretty strong on the train as you passed by.
ImperfectPixie
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Yeah, once it became a popular spot it was usually pretty mobbed. When it first was built though, it would often be me, hubby and maybe 2 or 3 other people.
Yert3
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This is so ridiculous. Obviously non-smokers came up with this ban. I don’t see what the problem is with having one smoking section. Or how about build a separate secluded indoor room like they have at airports. So I am seriously going to have to leave the park every time I go for a smoke break? Ugh.
TheGuyThatMakesSwords
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All personal opinion - I'm not necessarily right, no one else is necessarily wrong.....
Arguing with Disney rarely works. May 1, 2019? No DSA's. Oh yes, I DO smoke.
There are likely two solutions:
We've known for YEARS that WDW was going down this path, as they reduced DSA's from 12 to 2 in the MK.
Their announcement is their prerogative - but it is HIGHLY ill-timed. Just coming clean a year in advance of the policy change, instead of (roughly) 30 days, would have allowed people to CHOOSE to go to WDW, or not. Instead? People already booked were denied a choice.
Again, All personal opinion - I'm not necessarily right, no one else is necessarily wrong.
Arguing with Disney rarely works. May 1, 2019? No DSA's. Oh yes, I DO smoke.
There are likely two solutions:
- Don't go.
- Something few people know exist
. A Nicotine Inhaler. Not a Cig, not an ECig, no smoke, no vapor...
We've known for YEARS that WDW was going down this path, as they reduced DSA's from 12 to 2 in the MK.
Their announcement is their prerogative - but it is HIGHLY ill-timed. Just coming clean a year in advance of the policy change, instead of (roughly) 30 days, would have allowed people to CHOOSE to go to WDW, or not. Instead? People already booked were denied a choice.
Again, All personal opinion - I'm not necessarily right, no one else is necessarily wrong.
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