Ride videos!!!!

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Al

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has anyone got anymore vids on the way?

Digital-disney, your site is fantastic! and so are the videos! just out of interest, why do you choose to show them in real, not windows media? just a thought :)

popkid, i have watched your jiyi vid (i have had it downloaded for a week or 2, just forgot it was there!), and its really good! (shame i cant say the same for the ride :( )
 
DisneyJedi

DisneyJedi

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spagmoid .. Thanks for the tips. I'll have to kick my computer's butt for not wanting to capture using MP3 audio compression. It's a dual-boot system win98/2K server. I can only capture in 98 unless I disable terminal services in 2K (terminal services somehow hog the audio/video that the capture needs, so a capture will not work if terminal is enabled). I had been using 98 to capture because I hate rebooting 2 or 3 times to enable/disable the terminal services in 2K every time I want to video capture, but perhaps 2K will be more stable for capture, so I might need to just own up to it.

I did get a 640X480 capture to work and yes, I did have to deinterlace.. the problem was that the video did not look any better at 640X480 than it did at 320X240. It actually looked a little worse, even after deinterlacing. If the camcorder resolution is only 320X240, what is the point in capturing at a higher resolution? You are only adding more information that is not there. I thought the deinterlacing is adding average scanlines where they don't exist.

I have the latest DIVX4 drivers.. I just didn't use them. I thought the low-motion and high-motion would be a more accurate encoding method (oops). I didnt see the quality-based versus bitrate setting though.. just the bitrate, so i will poke around more. I'll stick with the DIVX4 capture from now on though.

I use my ATI Radeon 64 DDR VIVO, but have a Pinnacle Systems Studio DC10+ too. The pinnacle can only capture AVI with its own compression.. it refused to use anything else during capture and refused to work with VirtualDub, so I have to use the software that came with it or Studio 7. Hard drive space is at a premium, so if i really want better captures I need a bigger harddrive for the Pinnacle card. Part of the problem is that the Rage3D capture of the Radeon needed to be disabled for the Pinnacle card to work.. I would probably have to redo my computer from scratch to get the Pinnacle to work properly with VDub, but that would require a video card that does not have its own capture. I wish I could have both cards installed and at my disposure to use whichever one I want. First things first.. I need 1) bigger harddrive 2) generic video card 3)redo my win98 partition without breaking the dual boot menu (still need 2K server to work)(how would I do this without completely wiping all partitions on my computer and doing everything from scratch again?).
 
DigitalDisney

DigitalDisney

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Alberrisford: Thanks!

Using RealVideo was a horrible decision I made a long time ago, and I stuck with it for a while. I refuse to use DIVX or MPEG because they don't offer enough compression for my needs. If I was only hosting a couple videos, I'd offer them in a high-quality MPEG. But since I have hours of video, MPEG won't cut it.

When I first made the site several years ago, the best highly-compressed format out there was RealVideo. WMV/ASF wasn't that great and it hadn't caught on yet.

Eventually, I want to re-encode all of the videos at a higher bitrate, and in WMV/ASF format. I also want to re-encode all sounds into a low-bitrate MP3. Unfortunately, that's pretty far down the timeline....
 
spagmoid

spagmoid

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wishiwere:

I can't recommend any hardware because I am not familiar with all of them, but I can tell you a few things:

Pinnacle has good products but horrible, terrible support.

Don't get ANYTHING that connects with USB. Any capture product that is USB is going to give you BAD quality. Why? The bandwidth on USB is just not big enough. You will sacrifice frame rate, resolution, picture quality, or all 3.
I have a PCI capture card (Pinnacle Studio DC 10+), and although it still doesn't work under XP, if I boot into 98 I can capture high quality 640x480 30fps.
320x240 15fps captures just don't have the quality I'm looking for.


DisneyJedi:

I don't capture at mp3 because the extra processing can cause you to lose frames, I just convert to it afterward. I just capture in Pinnacle's method, which is PCM and MJPG video, and worry about converting it later. Which is fine as long as you have a lot of disk space.
I can't tell you about capturing in XP because sucky Pinnacle's XP driver is 4+ months late, and I don't want to use their beta.

Your video should look better at 640x480, mine captures at 640x480 from a VCR or camcorder, and it definitely looks better at the higher res. Just make sure your Pinnacle capture data rate is decent. That sets the quality of the MJPG. I have no problem capturing with Pinnacle, then locating their saved AVI and using VirtualDub with it. I also have the Pegasus MJPG codec installed so I don't get the logo at the bottom.

Deinterlacing is hard to wrap your head around. It's kind of like doubling your resolution and framerate without doing either one.
A good deinterlacer (like Smart Deinterlace) doesn't average or blend, it actually combines parts of surrounding frames to increase picture resolution & quality.

Think of a how an image on a TV screen looks bad when you pause it - it looks high res when it's moving, but low res when you're just looking at one frame. Smart Deinterlace combines the motion into 1 frame making each frame look high res.
The easy way to get rid of the interlacing is by either halving the vertical size (what you were doing before) or doubling the frame rate - smart deinterlace gives you the best of both worlds, although it does duplicate a lot of data.
Interlacing is actually a pretty cool concept.

It's too bad there are no video players (that I know of) that play interlaced data on the fly, so we could just keep videos interlaced and not worry about it. It would cut file sizes by as much as half.

Hard drives: I don't mess with partitions, it easier just to install Win98 to a second hard drive, and use your bios setup to boot from that hard drive when you need to. You can get a 60gig online for about $110 if you shop around. I did! :) Just make sure to make it FAT32 not NTFS if you want to access it from Win98.
 
spagmoid

spagmoid

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DigitalDisney:

Your videos are great, even though I prefer to stay away from RealMedia files. I will look forward to a better resolution of them (hopefully DIVX AVI) in the future :)
Are they captured from your own recordings? I would really like to get some high res preservations of extinct rides like Horizons and World of Motion. It's a shame a lot of people have no idea what those rides were like - if Disney was going to tear them down, I think they should have at least taken 9-eye through them so the rides could still be experienced, instead of just becoming a fuzzy memory. The only footage and pictures I've seen of my favorite ride World of Motion has been very low res.
 
DisneyJedi

DisneyJedi

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spagmoid Thanks! Now where can I find a 7200rpm BIG harddrive for cheap? :) I think I will put my Pinnacle DC10+ back in business. my Pinnacle card was only $25 at Sears.. couldn't believe it. Needless to say I snapped it up.. tried it once, took it out and have not touched it since. My PC BIOS is not smart enough to allow me to just choose a partition to boot off of, so what I have is 2 partitions.... 10mb each.. first I installed win98 on the C: partition (1st one) and then later I installed 2K server, but changed the install directory to D: (second partition). It added a nice startup menu when the computer boots up to choose 98 or 2K server. I have tried installing 98 again, but cannot get it back to scratch.. it has leftover registry entries from the previous install. I am afraid if i do a format c: /s, it will whipe that boot menu and i will never be able to get to my 2K partition again (would be very bad.. I need to backup alot of stuff). I am using Fat32 partitions for both C and D.. though if I used an NTFS partition for 2K, I would not have that dreaded 4-gig capture limit. At the same time, you're right -- I could not access data on the 98 partition from the 2K one. Pinnacle Studio does allow you to capture over 4gig.. it spreads it out in multiple files which is nice. Anyway.. it sounds like I need to get my DC10+ working again, so I will be backing up a bazillian things stored on my system. Sounds like I have my work cut out for me. :)
 
popkid

popkid

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hey everyone, sorry things took so long...

i'm in the process of moving some files around, and then all downloads should be good to go :)

gimmie about an hour, ok :)

also, got some GREAT new videos to add!!!
 
popkid

popkid

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allrighty grizz, let em rip (same goes for the rest of ya)
<hr>

and here's a new video clip to start it all off

<a href="ftp://wdwmagic:media@12.33.77.254/video/leagues001.wmv">20,000 leagues under the sea - attraction part 1 of 2</a>
length: 5:00
file size: 8.73MB
file type: .wmv (windows media video)

i didn't film this one, it's from a VHS tape i won off of ebay a while back with some 'extinct' attraction' footage (basically, someone's home movies). i'll be putting the whole tape up bit by bit for everyone to enjoy... so, well.. enjoy :)

for our technical friends:
this was captured using the dazzle software/hardware
and then compressed to .wmv with media cleaner

not a big fan of dazzle, but for dumping vhs onto my PC it more than did the trick...
 
NowInc

NowInc

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Originally posted by popkid
allrighty grizz, let em rip (same goes for the rest of ya)
<hr>

and here's a new video clip to start it all off

<a href="ftp://wdwmagic:media@12.33.77.254/video/leagues001.wmv">20,000 leagues under the sea - attraction part 1 of 2</a>
length: 5:00
file size: 8.73MB
file type: .wmv (windows media video)

i didn't film this one, it's from a VHS tape i won off of ebay a while back with some 'extinct' attraction' footage (basically, someone's home movies). i'll be putting the whole tape up bit by bit for everyone to enjoy... so, well.. enjoy :)
Click to expand...

Woohoo....its back!! Im already uploading more fun ;)
 
popkid

popkid

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wow! everyone seems to really want to download these videos! the server was getting hammered, so I had to limit the amount of simultanious downloads - if you're unable to get in, just keep trying... i'll keep an eye on things, and increase the number of slots if it looks like it's needed....

sorry about that, but better that just having the server crash now, isnt it?
 
wishiwere@wdw

wishiwere@wdw

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Thanks for the update! Question though.... Wouldn't I still be able to ping the IP address even if it were maxed out on connections? I have a feeling that my ISP is blocking the IP address. (unless there were still too many people on @ 2:30 in the morning!) I have never been able to make a connection but hopefully some day I will!

Uh, foot in mouth...... It just started working!
 

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