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Replacement for Tomorrowland Speedway?

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drizgirl

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Maybe once it is actually confirmed, not a several-years-away plan.

There was a time not that long ago when they indeed planned to turn our ToT into Guardians Tower. Should we have let that go?
There was a time not that long ago when some of us DID have our ToT turned into GotG. :(
 

Phicinfan

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Maybe once it is actually confirmed, not a several-years-away plan.

There was a time not that long ago when they indeed planned to turn our ToT into Guardians Tower. Should we have let that go?
First this is apples and oranges.
Second, they won't move an entire building to SWE. Not going to happen. Just like CoP isn't going to Epcot, nor is IASW, nor is Laugh Floor building moving. COULD it happen, maybe very slimly, but the cost is prohibitive. That shuts it down that quickly.

I for one am looking forward to some other IP in Star Tours, because Falcon will be that much better for Star wars anyway.
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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First this is apples and oranges.
Second, they won't move an entire building to SWE. Not going to happen. Just like CoP isn't going to Epcot, nor is IASW, nor is Laugh Floor building moving. COULD it happen, maybe very slimly, but the cost is prohibitive. That shuts it down that quickly.

I for one am looking forward to some other IP in Star Tours, because Falcon will be that much better for Star wars anyway.
Curious - what's closer to Star Tours? Muppets or Indiana Jones Stunt Show? Couldthat have some impact of what goes into ST? @MansionButler84 @Magic Feather @danlb_2000 @MisterPenguin @doctornick

You could get a mini land out of the deal?
 

danlb_2000

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Curious - what's closer to Star Tours? Muppets or Indiana Jones Stunt Show? Couldthat have some impact of what goes into ST? @MansionButler84 @Magic Feather @danlb_2000 @MisterPenguin @doctornick

You could get a mini land out of the deal?
Star Tours is right next to muppets, but it's entrance is oriented towards Indy. If something new went into Indy I would bet it would also take over Backlot in the same theme, so Star Tours could round out the area. All of this is of course speculation.

P.S. I didn't bother to read back and see how we got from Tomorrow land Speedway to this.

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Magic Feather

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Curious - what's closer to Star Tours? Muppets or Indiana Jones Stunt Show? Couldthat have some impact of what goes into ST? @MansionButler84 @Magic Feather @danlb_2000 @MisterPenguin @doctornick

You could get a mini land out of the deal?
Star Tours is right next to muppets, but it's entrance is oriented towards Indy. If something new went into Indy I would bet it would also take over Backlot in the same theme, so Star Tours could round out the area. All of this is of course speculation.

P.S. I didn't bother to read back and see how we got from Tomorrow land Speedway to this.

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To add on, with the new orientation of MC, it would be very hard, if not impossible, to link it to MC without a serious rebuild of the courtyard, Showbuilding, or both.
 

MansionButler84

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First this is apples and oranges.
Second, they won't move an entire building to SWE. Not going to happen. Just like CoP isn't going to Epcot, nor is IASW, nor is Laugh Floor building moving. COULD it happen, maybe very slimly, but the cost is prohibitive. That shuts it down that quickly.

I for one am looking forward to some other IP in Star Tours, because Falcon will be that much better for Star wars anyway.
For me, it is not apples to oranges. At its root, you have a member asking other members to ignore their opinions and "move on." It is a discussion board. No one should have their opinions trampled on. Hell, I actually don't care that ST will stop being ST. We are getting a better product. What I don't care for in our society is implicit forced censorship. It's insidious and increasingly engrained in our post-truth society.

And I realize I'm making a big deal out of something small and largely inconsequential. What else shall I just move on from due to decisions made by the decision-makers? Dyson Airblades in the new restrooms?! Hell no!
 

clemmo

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So as for the speedway are they leaning more towards replacement with a 1-2 new attractions in that location or more of an update? I feel like I've heard both recently
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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So as for the speedway are they leaning more towards replacement with a 1-2 new attractions in that location or more of an update? I feel like I've heard both recently
Could one attraction be for New Fantasy Land and the other attraction be for Tomorrowland ?
 

tl77

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Ikr we get yet another restaurant and...this.


They get an actual attraction...thanks TDO.
Yeah, you can see here "version 2" of Beast Castle that's more on par with Prince Eric's Castle at the Little Mermaid attraction. After the Mine Train started eating into the budget, they shrank it down to the "doll house on a rock" version we ended up with... I think what they're doing in Tokyo is a design from New Fantasyland "version 1" with Cinderella's Chateau, Sleeping Beauty's cottage, Pixie Hollow, and Snow White's Scary Adventure still intact


Originally the whole castle was bigger and had a second floor with balcony seating in the main "ballroom" area, (the balcony is still there kinda) you would have gotten up to that area by using a replica of the staircase from the movie off the armor room area. The staircase would have taken up half of what's the now "rose room", the other half of which would have been a smaller themed dinging area, similar to the "West Wing", which you can see in the first leaked blue prints


...and an emergency exit and ramp from that second floor were still part of the model, visible in this first photo they released back when Pixie Hollow ectt, was still part of the plan. The ramp is to the left of the main entrance that did get built
 

YodaMan

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The upper restaurant balcony was built to be load bearing. There's a chance it could be used in the future.
How high is the ceiling, though? I feel like it's not that tall, but without ever seeing anyone up there, I'm not positive on scale. If the balcony were to be used in the future, would they have to modify the height of the ceiling?
 

marni1971

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How high is the ceiling, though? I feel like it's not that tall, but without ever seeing anyone up there, I'm not positive on scale. If the balcony were to be used in the future, would they have to modify the height of the ceiling?
Pass. It surprised me I have to admit.
 

tl77

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How high is the ceiling, though? I feel like it's not that tall, but without ever seeing anyone up there, I'm not positive on scale. If the balcony were to be used in the future, would they have to modify the height of the ceiling?
Unless they do some major structural alterations, like the a stair case to the second floor, elevators for food service and ADA compliance, and the emergency exit ramp outside, it will stay the way it is inside... but the reason the West Wing has such a low ceiling is because there was going to be additional seating above that space and the kitchen. I think the original home of the West Wing was going to be on that second floor, that's the way it is in the film, and there was some concept art of it being larger than what they ended up with
 
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