Politics Reopening Rally to Be Held Outside Disneyland on Saturday, October 17th

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DanielBB8

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They were absolutely right to do that. This wasn't a matter of trying to mislead people but rather an attempt to understand the situation and make a timely and smart decisions. Masks aren't needed if people are being advised to stay home in lockdown (which was the case originally). As the situation changed, so too did the recommendations.

The bigger travesty is that they had to be concerned about a mask shortage to begin with. Had there been adequate stockpiles, they may have been more open to pushing private individuals to wear them, but at a time when you don't know if you have enough for health care workers or first responders, let alone essential workers, what would you say? "They are absolutely needed but our federal government didn't prepare for this disaster and so you can't have them?"
If masks worked for medical professionals, they would work for regular people. That's the falsity of the argument especially in a PANDEMIC ("Pandemic refers to an epidemic that has spread over several countries or continents, usually affecting a large number of people.") That's why it is so serious to not give out false information.

Stockpiles of medical equipment is part of every states' plan. You constantly make it a federal plan. The Feds can't act without the States requesting aid. New York originally had a plan to purchase a lot of ventilators. They chose to reduce their ventilator stockpiles to fund other priorities.

"How New York City’s Emergency Ventilator Stockpile Ended Up on the Auction Block
A 2006 pandemic plan warned that New York City could be short as many as 9,500 ventilators. But the city only acquired a few hundred, which were ultimately scrapped because it couldn’t afford to maintain them."

The mask shortage was evidently caused by transferring our medical supply chain to China, which the current President has remedied after the fact. So we weren't as prepared due to our trade policy.

The question is do you want to return to what it was like before. I'm pretty sure Biden want to return relations with China to what it was before. This is knowing China has new infectious diseases to worry about like bubonic plague. "A 3-year-old boy in China has been infected with bubonic plague, according to a report. The child, from Menghai county, located in Yunnan Province in southwestern China, suffered a mild infection but is now in stable condition following treatment, the Global Times of India reported. No other infections have reportedly been identified."
 

Mac Tonight

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LOL "GOP interference" Is there ever DNC interference? Apparently not. Certainly not in New York or California. Nope. Those New York and Californian politicians are the most non-partisan ethical humans on the planet! As for unions and government employees, turns out they're like the king on non-partisanship.

https://employeerightsact.com/wp-co...ERA_HowLaborUnionsFinanceTheirPolAgenda-2.pdf

CDC: don't wear masks CDC: wear masks CDC: masks better than vaccines CDC: research shows 70+ percent of people who got covid in July wore masks "all the time". And Harris trusts them??? Explain to me why this lady of superior judgment dropped out of her parties primary in December last year with what, 4% popularity, and now she's vp candidate??? We know about her dalliances with Willie Brown... who'd she "get to know" this time?
To be sure, Kommie Harris is on the ticket for one reason and one reason only: "to make history". The left is so obsessed with being the first to elect a non-white woman into office that they'll literally ignore everything prior to her nomination, including her calling Biden racist.
 

el_super

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If masks worked for medical professionals, they would work for regular people. That's the falsity of the argument especially in a PANDEMIC ("Pandemic refers to an epidemic that has spread over several countries or continents, usually affecting a large number of people.") That's why it is so serious to not give out false information.

Whether masks worked to contain the virus, and whether they were needed for individuals is a matter of circumstance. The circumstances changed. That's not misleading.

Stockpiles of medical equipment is part of every states' plan. You constantly make it a federal plan. The Feds can't act without the States requesting aid. New York originally had a plan to purchase a lot of ventilators. They chose to reduce their ventilator stockpiles to fund other priorities.

National security isn't a federal responsibility? There was a federal stockpile of masks, and it wasn't replenished despite several calls to do so.

The question is do you want to return to what it was like before. I'm pretty sure Biden want to return relations with China to what it was before. This is knowing China has new infectious diseases to worry about like bubonic plague. "A 3-year-old boy in China has been infected with bubonic plague, according to a report. The child, from Menghai county, located in Yunnan Province in southwestern China, suffered a mild infection but is now in stable condition following treatment, the Global Times of India reported. No other infections have reportedly been identified."

Doesn't the bubonic plague show up every now and then in Arizona? Should we cut off diplomatic relations with Arizona?

Trade with China is inevitable. Especially if you want those Disneyland popcorn buckets.
 

cmwade77

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LOL "GOP interference" Is there ever DNC interference? Apparently not. Certainly not in New York or California. Nope. Those New York and Californian politicians are the most non-partisan ethical humans on the planet! As for unions and government employees, turns out they're like the king on non-partisanship.

https://employeerightsact.com/wp-co...ERA_HowLaborUnionsFinanceTheirPolAgenda-2.pdf

CDC: don't wear masks CDC: wear masks CDC: masks better than vaccines CDC: research shows 70+ percent of people who got covid in July wore masks "all the time". And Harris trusts them??? Explain to me why this lady of superior judgment dropped out of her parties primary in December last year with what, 4% popularity, and now she's vp candidate??? We know about her dalliances with Willie Brown... who'd she "get to know" this time?
I still don't understand why as soon as Biden said he was running everyone seemed to almost immediately drop out of the primaries for the Democrats. There were far better choices on available on their side.
 

DLR92

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Whether masks worked to contain the virus, and whether they were needed for individuals is a matter of circumstance. The circumstances changed. That's not misleading.



National security isn't a federal responsibility? There was a federal stockpile of masks, and it wasn't replenished despite several calls to do so.



Doesn't the bubonic plague show up every now and then in Arizona? Should we cut off diplomatic relations with Arizona?

Trade with China is inevitable. Especially if you want those Disneyland popcorn buckets.
Trade with China is Inevitable. Were in a global economy.
 

ToTBellHop

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I still don't understand why as soon as Biden said he was running everyone seemed to almost immediately drop out of the primaries for the Democrats. There were far better choices on available on their side.
That’s not what happened at all. The far better candidates stayed in the race and won the first three primaries with Biden thought-of as “finished.” Then he won South Carolina, things started shifting, and the pandemic ended open campaigning.
 

DanielBB8

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Whether masks worked to contain the virus, and whether they were needed for individuals is a matter of circumstance. The circumstances changed. That's not misleading.


National security isn't a federal responsibility? There was a federal stockpile of masks, and it wasn't replenished despite several calls to do so.


Doesn't the bubonic plague show up every now and then in Arizona? Should we cut off diplomatic relations with Arizona?

Trade with China is inevitable. Especially if you want those Disneyland popcorn buckets.
The circumstance stayed the same. The pandemic is still the pandemic.

The states have to ask for aid. They have to ask for medical supplies. States are the first line and need to have their own plan before asking for federal help. Didn't many states fail to ask for help when there's an actual national security issue like the riots and looting. They didn't ask for help there despite Federal help was begging to be asked. States refused the national guard even after billions of dollars of damaged caused by the rioting and looting right in the middle of the pandemic. I suppose that's different because it's "mostly" peaceful except when burning and ransacking happened.

We don't stop trade with Arizona if that's what you're wondering. Bringing our medical supplies to American is a national security issue especially in a pandemic is important especially since international flights are cancelled. Supplies require 1 to 2 weeks to travel by ship from China.

Nothing is inevitable, but if you want to speed up our reliance on China, this is what happens.
 

Figments Friend

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Alright gang.....let's discuss the REALLY important stuff here.

Like, who besides @George Lucas on a Bench is going to the rally on Saturday?

We need live coverage and trustworthy witnesses.
Can't let those 'Disney Lifestylers' and local 'vloggers' get in on all the action that is destined to come.

How about you, @TP2000 ?
It's been a while since you cruised through the hood', yo!

;)

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Makarov42

New Member
That’s not what happened at all. The far better candidates stayed in the race and won the first three primaries with Biden thought-of as “finished.” Then he won South Carolina, things started shifting, and the pandemic ended open campaigning.
I am convinced that winning Iowa an NH is a death nail for a candidate.
 

1HAPPYGHOSTHOST

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Today there were multiple school sports teams practicing at a local park. What looked like a girls lacrosse team, plus a boys football team, ages about late high school. None of the kids had masks on, cause how do you play sports with a mask? The coaches didn't have masks on. There were some parents perched on cars in the parking lot chatting, without masks. It was a lovely fall day in San Diego's northern suburbs.

My point? There's this world that Sacramento lives in where they think everyone is obeying their mask rules and sheltering at home. And then there's the real world, where the aisles at Target are full of shoppers while Target elves stock the shelves and bustle about, and In-N-Out is busy and full of two dozen teenagers flipping burgers for us standing one foot apart at the grill, and teenagers go to daily football practice that is the opposite of Social Distancing. And construction workers scurry about finishing the Anaheim Westin, also not Social Distancing cause how do you install a 800 pound sign in a big planter while Social Distancing?

But Disneyland is still closed and JimBoy's Tacos just went bankrupt?

At what point do people finally say enough, and tell Sacramento to stuff it? It's time to get on with our lives.

NOTE: My In-N-Out standard order - Double-Double, hold lettuce tomato, yes on onions but not grilled. Fries, with 2 packets of secret sauce. Medium root beer, or 7-Up. Maybe a chocolate shake if I'm being naughty.
You need to add pickles to your IN-N-OUT order sir. will change your life.
 

Darkbeer1

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Original Poster
New post at the Facebook Event page.

>>Hello fellow magic makers and lovers of magic! I am so excited for this event Saturday! I want to make a public statement about what this rally really is! It is what has been posted,
Natasha Ramirez
(a former cast member and lover of the Magic) and I (a current cast member being laid off) created this thing to stand in support of the 28k cast members recently laid off, the community that is suffering because Disneyland’s gates are still closed, and to ultimately see the gates reopen so that people can come and find the very thing Walt created, “To all who come to this happy place; welcome. Disneyland is your land...” It is this place and the passion Of Walt that still lingers and is the reason why we showed up to work every day and anxiously await the reopening. Making magic is what it’s all about. Creating a place where “age relives fond memories of the past…and here youth may savor the challenge and promise of the future. Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, the dreams and the hard facts that have created America…with the hope that it will be a source of joy and inspiration to all the world.” His opening speech is why we can and will do what we can to see the gates open.


Now with all that being said, this event is not sponsored by the “California Patriot Coalition” nor is the goal political. In America we do have a first amendment right to peacefully gather and protest, and we have chosen not to call this a protest because our ultimate goal is to stand in unity with the beloved cast members of Disneyland Resort, the Anaheim community and businesses, and the guests who come from all over the world, no matter what their race, gender, religious preference, political views etc. All are welcome.

Our ultimate goal, once again is to be able to walk through those gates, smile at Mickey, take a walk under the bridge, walk down Main Street USA and relive the magic of the “Happiest Place on Earth.”

Disneyland is your land, and if all the other parks worldwide are open because of the Safe measures that guide the resorts as a foundational principal, then Disneyland should Open its Gates!!<<
 

1HAPPYGHOSTHOST

Well-Known Member
New post at the Facebook Event page.

>>Hello fellow magic makers and lovers of magic! I am so excited for this event Saturday! I want to make a public statement about what this rally really is! It is what has been posted,
Natasha Ramirez
(a former cast member and lover of the Magic) and I (a current cast member being laid off) created this thing to stand in support of the 28k cast members recently laid off, the community that is suffering because Disneyland’s gates are still closed, and to ultimately see the gates reopen so that people can come and find the very thing Walt created, “To all who come to this happy place; welcome. Disneyland is your land...” It is this place and the passion Of Walt that still lingers and is the reason why we showed up to work every day and anxiously await the reopening. Making magic is what it’s all about. Creating a place where “age relives fond memories of the past…and here youth may savor the challenge and promise of the future. Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, the dreams and the hard facts that have created America…with the hope that it will be a source of joy and inspiration to all the world.” His opening speech is why we can and will do what we can to see the gates open.


Now with all that being said, this event is not sponsored by the “California Patriot Coalition” nor is the goal political. In America we do have a first amendment right to peacefully gather and protest, and we have chosen not to call this a protest because our ultimate goal is to stand in unity with the beloved cast members of Disneyland Resort, the Anaheim community and businesses, and the guests who come from all over the world, no matter what their race, gender, religious preference, political views etc. All are welcome.

Our ultimate goal, once again is to be able to walk through those gates, smile at Mickey, take a walk under the bridge, walk down Main Street USA and relive the magic of the “Happiest Place on Earth.”

Disneyland is your land, and if all the other parks worldwide are open because of the Safe measures that guide the resorts as a foundational principal, then Disneyland should Open its Gates!!<<
Some say a waste of time, others say an incredible waste of time.
 

Darkbeer1

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Original Poster
Some say a waste of time, others say an incredible waste of time.
Not if the Media will be there.

Perfect for the KTLA Weekend Morning News from 6 to 11 AM. Co-anchor Lynette Romero, who was the franchise owner of Jimboy Tacos down the street, is part of the broadcast.

And KTLA always does the morning live events for Disneyland whenever Disney buys air time and provides the technical crew.

In fact, KTLA has a deal with the Anaheim Hotel to stand on their corner when reporting on the DLR without express Disney permission.

I can tell you now, unless there is breaking news to take the news crew away, it is on the whiteboard.
 
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