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News Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious

Brad Bishop

Well-Known Member
There you go. Let's take out our frustrations on the vegetation. No need for a little shade during the day.

I meant it two ways:
- tongue in cheek
- reality: It really wouldn't surprise me if they just removed it all, said it was for the show, and then reduced the maintenance costs in the park because it's just less landscaping to maintain. (tell me you'd be surprised if they actually did this)
 

Brad Bishop

Well-Known Member

That was one of the best things about Illuminations: It wasn't a pointless cavalcade of Disney characters marching about which is what most shows are (on the castle, Fantasmic, Philharmagic, etc.)

The characters marching about was great when I was 5yos. As an adult it's more, "OH, great.. More random Disney characters marching about to music." Illuminations told a story and had a flow.
 

Brad Bishop

Well-Known Member
In all honesty, it’s less to do with sponsorship and more to do with Disney themselves and their lack of faith, respect, and understanding of the appeal of park-exclusive concepts compared to film originated ones. Why? I have no idea.. You’d think they’d use the same mentality they use at Pixar for instance with EPCOT & the parks.. but I guess not. Apparently only movies are the medium that require genuine creativity and even then, that needs work in the film department as a whole.

The kid (although he's growing up) who does the YouTube channel "Mickey Views" once said something along the lines of, "Disney doesn't believe in Disney," meaning that Disney executives really don't believe in the talent that they employee across the board from filmmaking to theme park design. As a result, they buy properties and then beat them to death (Star Wars, Avengers, and, yes... even Pixar (they're movies, on average, really aren't up to the same level they were 10-20 years back). Even then Pixar was bought because they really didn't believe in Disney animation.

I think the "IPs in Epcot" is just more of that. "don't create something new and interesting.. Here's a popular IP - make people ride that."

Part of this goes back to Eisner with "Riding the movies is the future!" It's -a- future. It's an interesting concept. There are also other interesting concepts that could be done.

Imagine if Pirates or Haunted Mansion had never been built (no movies for either) and someone came up with the idea today? It'd be crushed and they'd be told, "Look.. <some movie> has taken off! Go build that. Make people ride that!"...

There has to be more ideas than just "ride the IP" inside Disney but I think we may never see that again. Mission: Space or Everest was the last ones and that was 20 years back.
 

przidentkendall

Well-Known Member
Lol. I wonder if any of these will happen. Frozen obviously.

Just to clarify, this is my list of songs I would like to be featured in the show, on the basis that the show is going ahead and we are going to end up with I.P.C.O.T after all. As I said in my recent video on Harmonious, I LOVED IllumiNations RoE and I WOULD HAVE MUCH preferred an updated version of IllumiNations instead. But it is what it is... and Harmonious is going to debut whether we like it or not.
 

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
Just to clarify, this is my list of songs I would like to be featured in the show, on the basis that the show is going ahead and we are going to end up with I.P.C.O.T after all. As I said in my recent video on Harmonious, I LOVED IllumiNations RoE and I WOULD HAVE MUCH preferred an updated version of IllumiNations instead. But it is what it is... and Harmonious is going to debut whether we like it or not.
That it is. More reason to go elsewhere .
 

TJ Vazquez

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Haven't been to UO in almost 25 years, but just picked up premier passes for the family. Not abandoning WDW, but it's time to shop around.
You know I was thinking of just doing a quick weekend, no parks, just pool relaxation and to be honest, Universal's resort's are just not a great value if you aren't going to the parks because of the built in price of express passes at some of their resorts. Coronado Springs was about 100 bucks cheaper a night for the time we were looking for. Small sample size buts its not like Uni is giving stuff away :p
 

pdude81

Well-Known Member
You know I was thinking of just doing a quick weekend, no parks, just pool relaxation and to be honest, Universal's resort's are just not a great value if you aren't going to the parks because of the built in price of express passes at some of their resorts. Coronado Springs was about 100 bucks cheaper a night for the time we were looking for. Small sample size buts its not like Uni is giving stuff away :p
Understood completely. For our first trip there in the summer we're going to do a couple days at the Hard Rock for unlimited express pass, but I stepped up to their premier AP because after that I can stay wherever I want and get early entry plus the limited express pass after 4pm. Easy enough to do a Disney park early or a relaxing pool day, then hit up Universal in the evening for a few rides and dinner at Citywalk. I'd always been meaning to check out universal again, but previously it was just for a day or two. Now for twice the price of a 3 day ticket, I can go whenever for 15 months. I honestly don't know much of anything about the Universal hotels as we've been staying mostly DVC the past few years.

It's really this multi year construction/destruction of my favorite park that is causing me to actively plan other destinations.
 

wutisgood

Member
I’ve said it before, but we had two of the best days in a long long time at Seaworld when last in Orlando. I was pleasantly shocked in retrospect.
Seaworld has the best Christmas event and some of their festival food has been outstanding. I also think Disney is just such a poor value at the price these days it is easy to splurge on extras at sea world or have expectations beat.
 

Thelazer

Well-Known Member
Had they done the original spinning circles/compass centerpiece there wouldn’t be viewing location issues. Curious why they didn’t do that. And it would have added another moving element to the show.

Had they just upgraded the LED pixels on the existing earth globe, and swapped out the old water screen barges for the Taco's (and brought those out nightly) this would have been a super easy way of upgrading and cost savings.

But what do I know?
 

TJ Vazquez

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
I’ve said it before, but we had two of the best days in a long long time at Seaworld when last in Orlando. I was pleasantly shocked in retrospect.
My wife and I had one of our best vacation days last January (2020) pre-the world on fire, at Discovery Cove, such a beautiful property and love the inclusive aspect to the day. Never had to pull a credit card out.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
Just to clarify, this is my list of songs I would like to be featured in the show, on the basis that the show is going ahead and we are going to end up with I.P.C.O.T after all. As I said in my recent video on Harmonious, I LOVED IllumiNations RoE and I WOULD HAVE MUCH preferred an updated version of IllumiNations instead. But it is what it is... and Harmonious is going to debut whether we like it or not.

Don't they already use several of those songs in Happily Ever After?

Not that that's going to stop Disney from using them again, but if they're going to do another Disney music show (where it doesn't belong) it would at least be nice for it to use different music from the other shows on property.
 
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HauntedPirate

Sheltered-at-home Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Disappointing to see so many embrace this line of thinking when it’s the antithesis of what the park stood for... until Iger came along.
@GrandCanyonConcourse If you’re going to laugh at a comment that wasn’t at all funny, at least have the decency to respond. Otherwise, don’t bother reacting at all.
 

przidentkendall

Well-Known Member
Just a little something I made Lol

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larryz

My Last Trip was in 2018
Premium Member
Disappointing to see so many embrace this line of thinking when it’s the antithesis of what the park stood for... until Iger came along.
@GrandCanyonConcourse If you’re going to laugh at a comment that wasn’t at all funny, at least have the decency to respond. Otherwise, don’t bother reacting at all.
I laughed as well, since the comment could be interpreted as lamenting Marni's "approval" of the IPCOT concept. And anyone who has regularly read his posts would know that Marni's opinion of "IPCOT" is not favorable.
 

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