News Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious

[Magic Feather]

Also, another point of clarification: this show was not designed with the coffee table or any event locations in mind. Actually, meetings and events is pretty PO-ed with the development of this show because one of their largest viewing spaces (the Int'l Gateway Island) is being given on "obscured view".

 

[Creathir]

Also, another point of clarification: this show was not designed with the coffee table or any event locations in mind. Actually, meetings and events is pretty PO-ed with the development of this show because one of their largest viewing spaces (the Int'l Gateway Island) is being given on "obscured view".

So the mistake on the lake even has internal detractors...

What a mess...

 

[trainplane3]

Also, another point of clarification: this show was not designed with the coffee table or any event locations in mind. Actually, meetings and events is pretty PO-ed with the development of this show because one of their largest viewing spaces (the Int'l Gateway Island) is being given on "obscured view".

What's the point of this show then? It sounds like mistakes and issues through and through. I'd be more understanding if it was to upsell spots and dining but if that's a failure...

 

[MisterPenguin]

Ah, so what's needed is a second icon!

 

[GimpYancIent]

What's the point of this show then? It sounds like mistakes and issues through and through. I'd be more understanding if it was to upsell spots and dining but if that's a failure...

A corporate decision to change something, do something different etc. there does not need to be a point. All I know is this show needs to be spectacular to counter all the negatives.

 

[Touchdown]

They will not
This is so poorly designed.

 

[marni1971]

A corporate decision to change something, do something different etc. there does not need to be a point. All I know is this show needs to be spectacular to counter all the negatives.

It can be as spectacular as possible. It still looses points before sunset.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Between the degradation/elimination of viewing spots and the overall detrimental effect to the park during regular operating hours, it's absolutely baffling that this project was approved.

How else would it be More Disney?

 

[danv3]

Well lets just take a look...

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I tried to break it down by circles.
Red will clearly be Dinner Packages/Fastpass/Reserved/Pay-Per-View areas.
Blue seems to be the best areas that will be first come first serve, still trees in these areas might obscure some stuff.
Orange might still give you a partial view of the Stargate's screen but will be covered by trees/structures/Water Tacos.
Yellow will still give you a good view but the Japanese Archway will be front and center in the middle of the Stargate.
Green will be generally a bad view/incomplete since you will not be able to see the Stargate screen.
Pink are the 3 waterfront restaurants and the Illuminations dessert party/fastpass viewing area. These now seem to be bad/generally poor viewing areas as none of them face the Stargate's screen and half of them look right into the exposed side of a Water Taco.

Overall it seems that the prime viewing angles of the arguably largest nighttime show viewing area has been reduced down to less than 40% of the entire lagoon.

My go to spot for Illuminations (bridge by UK) now appears to be garbage.

 

[danv3]

2) The fountain-hiding bit will run for maybe a year before being turned off
3) When the daytime fountains are turned off, they'll still leave the barges there. They're going to be a daytime eyesore for the next 20 years.

No chance the fountains make it a full year. Six months is a best case scenario.

 

[TTA94]

Had they done the original spinning circles/compass centerpiece there wouldn’t be viewing location issues. Curious why they didn’t do that. And it would have added another moving element to the show.

 

[TTA94]

Also, another point of clarification: this show was not designed with the coffee table or any event locations in mind. Actually, meetings and events is pretty PO-ed with the development of this show because one of their largest viewing spaces (the Int'l Gateway Island) is being given on "obscured view".

Could this potentially result in changes being forced to happen?

If so the only thing I think they could/would change is the center barge (Stargate). Either changing it or cutting it completely. That would also help, slightly, with the daytime views and the off center issue. No idea if the three center barges are now permanently joined together or if they could be separated, but if they could be separated maybe keep the two center arm barges and just replace the middle Stargate barge?

Just a guess but maybe instead of Harmonious facing another delay, in order to make changes to the center barge, maybe the show could still go on without the center barge?

 

[vikescaper]

Could this potentially result in changes being forced to happen?

If so the only thing I think they could/would change is the center barge (Stargate). Either changing it or cutting it completely. That would also help, slightly, with the daytime views and the off center issue. No idea if the three center barges are now permanently joined together or if they could be separated, but if they could be separated maybe keep the two center arm barges and just replace the middle Stargate barge?

Just a guess but maybe instead of Harmonious facing another delay, in order to make changes to the center barge, maybe the show could still go on without the center barge?

What they need to do is build two more Stargates and put them on both sides of the current stargate.....

 

[Squishy]

What they need to do is build two more Stargates and put them on both sides of the current stargate.....

What they should do is build 4 more tacos and put them on the Rivers of America.

 

[Brenthodge]

Could this potentially result in changes being forced to happen?

If so the only thing I think they could/would change is the center barge (Stargate). Either changing it or cutting it completely. That would also help, slightly, with the daytime views and the off center issue. No idea if the three center barges are now permanently joined together or if they could be separated, but if they could be separated maybe keep the two center arm barges and just replace the middle Stargate barge?

Just a guess but maybe instead of Harmonious facing another delay, in order to make changes to the center barge, maybe the show could still go on without the center barge?

Ha ha. That’s funny!

 

[TTA94]

Ha ha. That’s funny!

Crazy I know but if they were to change anything, which yeah is probably unlikely at this point, the stargate seems like the most doable, maybe, since it’s on its own barge. Unless they permanently connected the 3 center barges together by wiring, pipes, etc which is very possible.
They sure as heck are not going to do anything with the tacos. I’m sure the stargate costed a pretty penny but not as much as the tacos and the arms.

 

[Giss Neric]

Could this potentially result in changes being forced to happen?

If so the only thing I think they could/would change is the center barge (Stargate). Either changing it or cutting it completely. That would also help, slightly, with the daytime views and the off center issue. No idea if the three center barges are now permanently joined together or if they could be separated, but if they could be separated maybe keep the two center arm barges and just replace the middle Stargate barge?

Just a guess but maybe instead of Harmonious facing another delay, in order to make changes to the center barge, maybe the show could still go on without the center barge?

I also wanna see how clear the water screens would be in the startgate as compared to the taco barges where it's literally screens. The water screens in Rivers of Light was poor but the ones in World of Color was really clear.

 

[marni1971]

The water screens in Rivers of Light was poor but the ones in World of Color was really clear.

Both depend on weather conditions

 

[marni1971]

Had they done the original spinning circles/compass centerpiece there wouldn’t be viewing location issues.

Had they followed what the grown ups have learnt since 1982 there wouldn't be either.

 

[Brad Bishop]

I'm pretty sure if a large garden in Pennsylvania can run their fountains all day Disney shouldn't have a problem doing so.

Disney also talked big about all of the interactive characters in Galaxy's Edge and how you'd be walking around interacting with them all day. They lasted a few days during the ceremonies.

The idea here is cost vs benefit.

You can't show on a spreadsheet where the cost of paying those actors resulted in a benefit at the ticket booth. In fact, you could almost prove the opposite as people lined up to get into Galaxy's Edge anyway even with the absence of actors. If the public is going to pay anyway why incur the cost?

This is just the current management's way of running the business. Everything is about counting beans. If you can't sell it, then don't offer it.

Some people run their business on experience such as: "You can a good experience, right? We'll see you again, next time, and make more money off of you and those you tell about your experience."

The Bob's are much more straight forward. They just see it as an even trade: "You bought WDW that day and got WDW that day."