After seeing these massive things in person I really don’t see how fountains are going to hide them at all. That center piece is so tall water spraying from that high is going to be laughable. I get what they’re trying to do but seems pointless to me. Also curious how much noise the fountains are going to create.Fountains will still block numerous sight lines, if they’re good or bad. Quite honestly they lost being given a chance when this hardware was approved to remain in position.
I keep thinking about this and the show at universal where it’s all hidden. Or at least have these things move in and out of the lagoon like reflections did.I can't help but wish they would have just used the World of Color tech. That combined with the normal firework floats would have been so much better than this.
I keep thinking about this and the show at universal where it’s all hidden. Or at least have these things move in and out of the lagoon like reflections did.
I’m not as big of a sight line person as others but this really bothers me. I found it funny how people I was with at Disney recently could careless about the guardians building or Rats but were so annoyed by the lagoon barges.
The structure and geology of the world showcase lagoon is very different from Paradise Bay.I know I'll get flak for this but Guardians and Rat do not bother me, and Tron really only bothers me from the Fantasyland angle. But these Monstrosities are just bad. Its just so confusing why they wouldn't use the World of Color tech here. Its a big open lagoon, perfect amount of space for the World of Color platforms with plenty of space left over for the firework floats and other movable platforms. It just seems like a perfect fit.
Right? Years ago WDI and Disney Creative Entertainment INVENTED technology to tell stories, now they just copy what’s out there alongside the interstate. At least Rivers of Light made a tech advance. It may have even been the victim of it (that and loosing sight that show equipment is a means for telling a clear and compelling story -Not the story itself.)What gets me is not only the sight line of these hideous barges but the functionality. Can anyone justify use for permanent LED screens for a nighttime show. COME ON this has got to be a joke. Then you have these arms that come out for lighting effects and a ring for water images. What the heck are they thinking. The views around the lake are going to be compromised just for getting in their own way. If they can have 8 arms for lighting can’t they go the extra mile and have the stupid ring break into 2 pieces during the day. Even better, why dontThey have 2 arms on the barges one for a water screen instead of the LED’s there’s so many ways around this monstrosity this is literally the dumbest idea Disney has ever had. They couldn’t even keep up the Fountian of Nations and now they have this monstrosity? Does this show even have a Sponsor? Maybe it’s a billboard company sponsoring the show. Maybe this is a billboard exhibit.
Nothing a little engineering couldn't solve. Which would you rather have, a lagoon that looks like thisThe structure and geology of the world showcase lagoon is very different from Paradise Bay.
No doubt which one I prefer. But there is a big difference between a small concrete bottom body of water and the massive world showcase lagoon that has a sand and muck bottom. They could and should have done something very different in this location; but world of color style platforms are not as easy as they seemNothing a little engineering couldn't solve. Which would you rather have, a lagoon that looks like this
*ignore the Pixar stuff in the background of the first photo, nobody wants that! Just comparing the water
Blame the Merchandiser philosophy and its emphasis on ROI instilled in MBAs today. If a square foot of land isn't bringing in money, it's wasted.Today we have theme parks jammed to the hilt with food and merchandise kiosks, scores of trees and landscape at some of the resort's most picturesque spots plowed under forever (see the Ft. Wilderness Settlement), tranquil lakefront views decimated with scores of bungalows that 90% of visitors will never be able to afford to stay at, 15 story towers springing up at resorts that were originally deliberately laid out with low-lying buildings, highway overpasses everywhere you turn, giant show buildings destroying carefully crafted sightlines, and now a nighttime show at EPCOT with a ton of cold, ugly, post-apocalyptic hardware thrown in without any regard to the brilliant design of the park's original layout. A design where architecture and sightlines weren't just a byproduct, they were the entire point of the thing in the first place.
but what kind of ROI does a half vacant future world bring? The Coke and Starbucks location brought in money... the vacant nothingness does not... It add absolutely nothing to the park...except an odd half-finished and off balance hub...Drawing a pink line on the map doesn't make it feel any better... And people don't want to pay $100/day to go to a vacant lot full of temporary kiosks...Blame the Merchandiser philosophy and its emphasis on ROI instilled in MBAs today. If a square foot of land isn't bringing in money, it's wasted.
Walkways: anything over what's necessary to get a customer from POS to POS is wasted.
Benches: People on benches aren't spending money.
Scenic Sightlines: Unless there's some advertising in it, waste of money. Theming on a "big box" is a waste of money.
Entertainment: People watching entertainment aren't spending money. Some will argue that people paid money to get in to see the entertainment. Merchants will argue that once you pay your entrance fee, and you enter, the contract is fulfilled.
I mean for the last several years, WOL has been empty, half of innoventions was empty, the original ImageWorks has been repurposed as a lounge...they’ve been OK with empty for a whilebut what kind of ROI does a half vacant future world bring? The Coke and Starbucks location brought in money... the vacant nothingness does not... It add absolutely nothing to the park...except an odd half-finished and off balance hub...Drawing a pink line on the map doesn't make it feel any better... And people don't want to pay $100/day to go to a vacant lot full of temporary kiosks...
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