News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[lazyboy97o]

Maybe not Kindergarteners, but since the law also impacts teenagers, an argument can be made that opposing the law is important to the shareholders since some of these kids will eventually becomes CMs.

The state rules created as a result of the law also apply more broadly than supporters have claimed they would.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Doesn't the land agreement though prohibit any development without Disney's permission? They would have to get that voided first, which is unlikely.

The list of things that are supposed to be done is pretty long at this point. We’ve pretty much been told that rules and norms are out the window.

 

[DisneyJayBama]

He very much does know what he's doing.

You might be right. He knows he’s running Disney into the ground.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You might be right. He knows he’s running Disney into the ground.

How well the company is run has little to do with the District.

 

[Lilofan]

As much as I hate him abusing his position to punish a corporation I’m even more concerned with how he’d respond to a country that dared oppose him. He’s had several chances to end this spat with Disney, a couple that would have even given him a draw/small win, and instead has chosen to escalate the situation every time, if he can’t even handle diplomacy with Disney how can he be trusted to handle difficult and often tense relationships with hostile countries like China?

This pit bull attitude may be attractive to the far right but I think it’s driving the center away, and no amount of post primary backtracking will likely get them back. They may not vote for the other guy but if they stay home it has nearly the same affect.

DeSantis can count in his history is that he got out-smarted by Mickey Mouse.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

DeSantis is trying to be one of the most powerful politicians in the world, and he's doing so by ignoring actual problems faced by Floridians and is coming across as incompetent in a war with a business that is central to Florida's well being.

Imagine thinking this guy is qualified to be POTUS.

 

[mf1972]

LOTS of FUN and INTERESTING commentary this weekend.

if i were a mod here & lived locally, i would be justified to hit up epcot for a drinking around the world binge. they have my sympathy.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

You’re embarrassing yourself.

It's one of those cases where I'm reading the posts and seriously wondering if the poster is drunk.

 

[GoofGoof]

It's one of those cases where I'm reading the posts and seriously wondering if the poster is drunk.

He said he was sitting at the beach at the poly so hopefully several adult dole whips and/or tiki drinks in

 

[Riviera Rita]

Tampa Bay Times adding fuel to the fire now.

Gov. DeSantisâ ridiculous fight against Disney | Editorial

Governor should drop his retaliation campaign and focus on Florida’s real needs

www.tampabay.com

Unfortunately because Ron has been so open about his motives he cannot claim to have been misunderstood when editorials like this come out. He will be exposed for the foolish man that he is.

 

[Patcheslee]

If anyone has better insight: HB9B that created the CFTOD stripped it of the right to collect tolls. Can that be amended to allow tolls to be collected, if so did the Development Agreement cover that possibility?

 

[wdwmagic]

Reminder.

Personal attacks, trolling etc. All will result in being banned from the thread.

 

[GoofGoof]

If anyone has better insight: HB9B that created the CFTOD stripped it of the right to collect tolls. Can that be amended to allow tolls to be collected, if so did the Development Agreement cover that possibility?

Not sure about the development agreement, but someone posted earlier that the bill that created the new board allows the district to transfer ownership of roads to FDOT and then FDOT could add the toll so collected by the state not the district. That would avoid the district collecting a toll which would ultimately just reduces Disney’s tax bill. I believe it was also posted that the state must use the toll money to repair and maintain the roads first and anything left would go to the county where the road is.

 

[tissandtully]

Not sure about the development agreement, but someone posted earlier that the bill that created the new board allows the district to transfer ownership of roads to FDOT and then FDOT could add the toll so collected by the state not the district. That would avoid the district collecting a toll which would ultimately just reduces Disney’s tax bill. I believe pit was also posted that the state must use the toll money to repair and maintain the roads first and anything left would go to the county where the road is.

Sounds like a win for Disney haha

 

[GoofGoof]

Sounds like a win for Disney haha

Yeah. Disney would lose control of road maintenance for the roads turned over, but they would also lose the requirement to pay for the road maintenance. Take that Mouse….we are going to punish you by taking over paying for maintenance on the roads your business uses

 

[Tha Realest]

Yeah. Disney would lose control of road maintenance for the roads turned over, but they would also lose the requirement to pay for the road maintenance. Take that Mouse….we are going to punish you by taking over paying for maintenance on the roads your business uses

There’s a lot of potential for mischief. Like, say, if road maintenance started taking place annually during March

 

[lazyboy97o]

If anyone has better insight: HB9B that created the CFTOD stripped it of the right to collect tolls. Can that be amended to allow tolls to be collected, if so did the Development Agreement cover that possibility?

It also gave them the option of handing the roads over to the state. But yes, it could be amended. The stated intent is to void the agreements, so I don’t think they can be factored into what will be attempted.

Tolls though are something that would take time in order to implement as all of the infrastructure would have to be built. They need things that can have a more immediate impact. Extra hotel taxes seems like something that could more easily be rushed and while it charges customers it makes Disney more expensive compared to alternatives. Parking fees at the Disney Springs garages seems like another. The District and the state can ignore the agreements and force Disney to act to enforce them.

 

[GoofGoof]

On the topic of tolls, since the parking garages at Disney Springs were built by RCID can they add a parking fee there too? Would go back to the district and ultimately be a tax break for Disney but could be viewed as a way to punish Disney customers.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Not sure about the development agreement, but someone posted earlier that the bill that created the new board allows the district to transfer ownership of roads to FDOT and then FDOT could add the toll so collected by the state not the district. That would avoid the district collecting a toll which would ultimately just reduces Disney’s tax bill. I believe it was also posted that the state must use the toll money to repair and maintain the roads first and anything left would go to the county where the road is.

It wouldn’t really reduce the tax burden. The District could still collect those taxes.

 

[Eric Graham]

I've heard that Desantis is pretty upset and wants to enact toll roads all through Disney.