News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Brian]

Also, here's a minor update for anyone who may be planning to attend:

 

[ElvisMickey]

Ehh… what you think someone joins your team or something when they react to your post?

Sorry, saying something normal in one place does not give you immunity to be wrong elsewhere.



Read the thread. Pick an item you don’t agree with and make a convincing argument to your point.

If you just want to rehash old stuff and just talk about what side you think someone is on… most will just scroll past your selfish posts.

Then why does the governor have an argument if you left wing activists are SO right? Please…fill me in…

 

[flynnibus]

Ok… pl0nk…

 

[danlb_2000]

"First Amendment right to be advocating for gender ideology in Kindergarten? Yeah, I guess. Is that honestly faithful to their fiduciary duty to their shareholders?

Maybe not Kindergarteners, but since the law also impacts teenagers, an argument can be made that opposing the law is important to the shareholders since some of these kids will eventually becomes CMs.

 

[Chi84]

Yeah, I mean I’d be curious to know if anyone “more in the know” than me actually knows what land the district owns that could be developed. Could the board sell land they own to a developer to build houses or hotels or shopping? Or is the land too small and unsuitable for that type of development?

Maybe @lentesta could weigh in on this?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Getting back on topic….this statement from the king Governor of FL:

“But now that Disney has reopened this issue, we’re not just going to void the development agreement they tried to do, we’re going to look at things like taxes on the hotels, we’re going to look at things like tolls on the roads,” he said. “We’re going to look at things like developing some of the property that the district owns.”

Not sure how Disney reopened anything considering the contract they signed was signed before the new board was even created, but ignoring that fact we’ve talked some about the first 2 threats of hotel tax and tolls on roads but not about the 3rd threat of developing the property that the district owns. I know that the district does own land but I thought that land was already used for municipal purposes. Can they legally remove a utility facility and/or sell the facility and land to someone else or does the development agreement prevent that too?

Remember that the district is its own utility provider and the contract out operations.

The easiest thing would be to provide easements or rights of way. This is how people get utility boxes in their yards.

The bigger concern is that most of the District’s sizable, contiguous land holdings are designated for conservation.

 

[Ayla]

Remember that the district is its own utility provider and the contract out operations.

The easiest thing would be to provide easements or rights of way. This is how people get utility boxes in their yards.

The bigger concern is that most of the District’s sizable, contiguous land holdings are designated for conservation.

I was going to ask about the conservation designation ~ that makes large swaths of land supposedly off-limits.

 

[mikejs78]

Remember that the district is its own utility provider and the contract out operations.

The easiest thing would be to provide easements or rights of way. This is how people get utility boxes in their yards.

The bigger concern is that most of the District’s sizable, contiguous land holdings are designated for conservation.

Doesn't the land agreement though prohibit any development without Disney's permission? They would have to get that voided first, which is unlikely.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Then why does the governor have an argument if you left wing activists are SO right? Please…fill me in…

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes : Online Sunshine

 

[Riviera Rita]

From what I've found from reading up shouting the founding of the RCID is that Walt had no control over what went on in the immediate area outside of the land he owned and on which he built Disneyland which meant dubious businesses and other rather family unfriendly things sprung up in the immediate area around the park. Walt learned his lesson and when it came to building his east coast park he made sure he not only had more than adequate land, but, control of it so that none of these unsavoury things could be built or established near the parks.
I know there is more to it than just that, but, that was one his motivations when establishing RCID.

 

[Riviera Rita]

I was going to ask about the conservation designation ~ that makes large swaths of land supposedly off-limits.

I believe 60% was never intended to be developed, sadly, Walt's wish will be ignored.

 

[GoofGoof]

Remember that the district is its own utility provider and the contract out operations.

The easiest thing would be to provide easements or rights of way. This is how people get utility boxes in their yards.

The bigger concern is that most of the District’s sizable, contiguous land holdings are designated for conservation.

In theory could the district maybe purchase additional land somewhere else to replace some land designated for conservation and then sell the land within the district that they own to another developer? That seems really convoluted just to get “revenge“ on Disney but I wouldn’t rule anything out.

Doesn't the land agreement though prohibit any development without Disney's permission? They would have to get that voided first, which is unlikely.

I think the agreement allows Disney freedom to develop their own land as they see fit but does it prevent the district from doing something with land it already owns?

 

[GrumpyFan]

there’s going to be a lot of deleted posts this weekend

LOTS of FUN and INTERESTING commentary this weekend.

 

[Heppenheimer]

Then why does the governor have an argument if you left wing activists are SO right? Please…fill me in…

Well, that's the first time in my life I've been called a left wing activist.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Maybe not Kindergarteners, but since the law also impacts teenagers, an argument can be made that opposing the law is important to the shareholders since some of these kids will eventually becomes CMs.

The state rules created as a result of the law also apply more broadly than supporters have claimed they would.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Doesn't the land agreement though prohibit any development without Disney's permission? They would have to get that voided first, which is unlikely.

The list of things that are supposed to be done is pretty long at this point. We’ve pretty much been told that rules and norms are out the window.

 

[DisneyJayBama]

He very much does know what he's doing.

You might be right. He knows he’s running Disney into the ground.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You might be right. He knows he’s running Disney into the ground.

How well the company is run has little to do with the District.

 

[Lilofan]

As much as I hate him abusing his position to punish a corporation I’m even more concerned with how he’d respond to a country that dared oppose him. He’s had several chances to end this spat with Disney, a couple that would have even given him a draw/small win, and instead has chosen to escalate the situation every time, if he can’t even handle diplomacy with Disney how can he be trusted to handle difficult and often tense relationships with hostile countries like China?

This pit bull attitude may be attractive to the far right but I think it’s driving the center away, and no amount of post primary backtracking will likely get them back. They may not vote for the other guy but if they stay home it has nearly the same affect.

DeSantis can count in his history is that he got out-smarted by Mickey Mouse.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

DeSantis is trying to be one of the most powerful politicians in the world, and he's doing so by ignoring actual problems faced by Floridians and is coming across as incompetent in a war with a business that is central to Florida's well being.

Imagine thinking this guy is qualified to be POTUS.