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Ratatouille in Epcot
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doctornick
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I think the big take home point (to me at least) is that there is a push to build some sort of ride in World Showcase as an addition to an existing pavilion, with France being the most likely destination. I'd be curious if it would definitely be there or if other locations might be under consideration (like Japan, which has has numerous ideas over the years).
DznyRktekt
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That's great news! It'll be a great complement to Impressions (hoping).
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jaxonp
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Do you think Small World, Pirates and Splash Mountain are all the same attraction... and heck they're all in the same darn park!
prfctlyximprct
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Here's hoping the right side of World Showcase gets some love. Mexico and Norway get rides, and they are right next to each other! We need some righty love!!
Nickels5
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Looks like it would be a great fit. Heres hoping it happens.
ToTBellHop
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None of those three have identical ride systems. Building three rides at the same time with the same ride system would be unprecedented. I want variety, not three rides using 15-year old ride system technology.
I think it is absurd as it is that they will be building two LPS rides at DHS to open at the same time.
RSoxNo1
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Nope, not excessive at all.
doctornick
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Yeah, there needs to be a ride on that half of the WS to spread out crowds. Is long overdue, so I hope it finally happens.
Hmmm, uh, no... I agree that it's weird to just ignore the ride tech for years then suddenly build multiple stuff with it, but it's not a "problem". As mentioned, doing it in different parks is certainly not a big deal so adding Ratatouille (assuming that it happens, which still seems uncertain; it might be a completely different ride than that even if something gets built).
But in terms of the two known DHS rides -- they seem like completely different experiences despite being the same ride mechanism. Granted, we don't know a lot about the Mickey ride, but it seems like it will be more family friendly and likely funny/silly with good music. Maybe it will be frantic, but probably not "intense". The Star Wars Alcartraz right will be action packed and have sci-fi violence and apparently will do stuff like change levels. I expect the two rides will seem like completely different experiences.
I think the best comp is the omnimovers of MK -- HM, Buzz and Little Mermaid are all very different experiences despite using the same type of ride.
Also, as to your point about building multiple rides of the same type, weren't most of the original FW rides (minus LwtL and Energy) all pretty much slow moving omni-movers? They were built at the same time.
Daveeeeed
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Just so everyone that hasn't ridden it knows, you actually interact with the screen so so well. For instance, when Linguini talks to you, the vehicle moves with perfect perspective and sync with his arms.
In the kitchen scene, the rats back up and shake like they are hiding and the oven above you just like he movie has 'flames' and you spin away. It is an extremely well done ride. The rides when the are walking through you feel the taps of the rats. From the score, to the climatic action, to the extremely well done perspectives (if you don't looks down and just look up, left and right, it is so well done that you feel like you are moving).
Again not a Harry Potter Forbidden Journey, or Tower of Terror caliber attraction, but it's the next step down. Extremely well done attraction, easily comparable with Toy Story Midway Mania, Spiderman, Star Tours, The Rock n' Rollercoaster, Dinosaur, or even Test Track. Would easily be the number 2 best ride at Epcot only being beat by Spaceship Earth.
From the pacing, to the score, the rat perspective being done perfectly whether with sets or screens, the vehicles moving so smoothly with the rare bump that's very minor, the taps of rat feet, the gliding sensation.
Like I cannot give this ride enough praise. Seen many rides on videos but truly the ride that cannot be done justice by a video is Remy's Totally Zany Adventure, as it would be called in English.
My only critique is that an animatronic would have been nice, another dark ride scene, and the second to final scene when the vehicle tilts and Remy is in a spoon felt kind of bland. Other than that, the ride is a solid eticket and again is one of the only ips that could possibly work in Epcot and it actually is a movie that dives heavily into the culture of France, unlike Frozen. So really it would not be a "Frozen Mistake." Capacity is great, fits the location very well, and is actually an eticket.
Of course a non ip would be best, but honestly I couldn't see any better ip for Epcot.
Aladdin? Could go in Morroco, but really shouldn't as like Frozen it would be out of place.
Guardians of the Galaxy? I guess a superhero pavilion could work as a new pavilion like Space and Energy, and Ellen needs an update badly, but it really doesn't work with the current theme of FW future and Energy should be replaced with a new Energy themed attraction.
Ratatouille? Actually is set in France, fits the theme of the country, wouldn't replace a ride (maybe Impressions de France, but there is an expansion pad between Morroco & France so I would assume that's where it would go if anywhere), and is known to be a fantastic eticket.
Another fantastic trait this ride has is that it is not a book report ride, it actually has a good story based off of Ratatouille. And it has some sets and screens. In the scene with linguini you are under a food cart, and later you are under an oven, backing up and shaking in a rat way moving backwards and when the flame goes off above you (which is the oven set) you spin away.
I know for a fact that if we are to get it, this would be the best thing for Epcot since Soarin' first opened.
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BrianLo
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While yes the ride system matters, it's the packaging that matters a whole lot more. Star Wars will be nothing like Ratatouille which is nothing like Aquatiopia.
3 seems potentially excessive in terms of short term variety (who are we kidding, this is TDO, we can assuredly count on at least one being scrapped). However, this comes off the heels of an omnimover, a boat ride, two roller coasters, two simulators and a whip ride. Plus the other rumors like a GoTG hybrid coaster, and whatever that frontierland on/off again thing is.
What Universal does is far worse in my opinion, changing the vehicle does not obscure the fact they are mostly adding one similarly structured hybrid-simulator after another.
Variety is the spice of life though, three seems about the max to not ruin the magic of this particular system.
prfctlyximprct
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Well considering any project takes 10 years to be announced and built, I won't hold my breath!
DznyRktekt
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For the expansion pad next to France and no others, correct? Canada, UK, and Japan are blue sky at this point?
RoysCabin
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The downside of an idea like this for somebody like me is that I simply don't get very excited for most of the "ride the movies" type of attractions...doesn't mean I dislike all of them, mind you, I've enjoyed plenty of Studios/MGM and Universal rides over the years, though I haven't been to Uni since about 2003 or so. Like many here, I simply prefer they be in a thematically appropriate place; for my own, personal tastes, I just wish EPCOT could exist without such rides, as the history nerd in me just loves the concept of a theme park that lets the real world culture do the talking, or utilizes cultural stories that aren't pre-existing movies (e.g. using trolls in Maelstrom). I keep getting that gnawing fear of each WDW park becoming too homogenized.
However, on the positive side, were something along the lines of the Paris ride to be brought over and placed in the expansion pad, I'd be a lot more forgiving of it given that it would likely use an exterior that matches the surrounding area well, plus it would finally, finally be an expansion and not a replacement of another attraction. I get why some people don't get the love for Impressions and other films like it; this isn't the 80s anymore, people have slightly easier access to world travel, or at least world cuisine, and can watch a travelog or documentary on any number of outlets. For me, though, shows like Impressions are just quintessential Disney; capturing the essence of something in such a way to leave you wanting more, and striking you in ways that make you want to start exploring on your own.
Yet by the sound of things, it appears there's absolutely nothing locked down concerning this idea yet, so no counting chickens one way or another. More than anything I'd adore seeing a new country placed into an expansion pad, but a new attraction of any kind would at least do a decent job of spreading the crowds around; to echo an earlier point, I just wish they'd start that process by finally going through with building some of the old concepts made for pavilions like the UK, Japan, etc. first.
However, on the positive side, were something along the lines of the Paris ride to be brought over and placed in the expansion pad, I'd be a lot more forgiving of it given that it would likely use an exterior that matches the surrounding area well, plus it would finally, finally be an expansion and not a replacement of another attraction. I get why some people don't get the love for Impressions and other films like it; this isn't the 80s anymore, people have slightly easier access to world travel, or at least world cuisine, and can watch a travelog or documentary on any number of outlets. For me, though, shows like Impressions are just quintessential Disney; capturing the essence of something in such a way to leave you wanting more, and striking you in ways that make you want to start exploring on your own.
Yet by the sound of things, it appears there's absolutely nothing locked down concerning this idea yet, so no counting chickens one way or another. More than anything I'd adore seeing a new country placed into an expansion pad, but a new attraction of any kind would at least do a decent job of spreading the crowds around; to echo an earlier point, I just wish they'd start that process by finally going through with building some of the old concepts made for pavilions like the UK, Japan, etc. first.
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MotherOfBirds
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There are some talks to add to the WS at present (as there have always been. Remember Denmark?). Japan looks relatively unlikely. The back showbuilding is used as storage and it would be a royal pain to relocate everything they keep in there.
Everything in WS is blue sky. Nothing more yet.
As far as I know there's no proposal for Canada or Japan at this time.
spectromagic04
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Do you think any of these WS proposals actually get built?
Daveeeeed
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Thankfully though, Ratatouille is not a book report ride, is actually a very good eticket, and fits Frances perfectly. Wish we'd get an original attraction if we are to get one, but thenride is so good, with a great no height requirement capacity that it seems almost crazy for Disney not to have it in France. I think a train type of simulator that moves ride would be splendid for France. You could see Paris, see the countryside and the mountains, but again for an ip Ratatouille would be the best for the park. (I feel like Hunchback would be too, but I don't know if they would make it an eticket, at least we have proof with the already great Ratatoille).
I'm hopeful some will.