Ratatouille in Epcot

doctornick

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They could still fit it in. They would probably need to relocate the restrooms next to Gaston's tavern and build a walkway across Magic Kingdom Drive to the grassy area behind the current LM show building. They would probably need to either relocate the road or dig down to make the road a tunnel and the pedestrian walkway over Magic Kingdom drive a bridge. It's probably cheaper to just relocate the road behind the new show building. See the photo below:

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Not for nothing, but if they really wanted to go that route (adding the TDS BatB ride to the MK), I would think the best bet would be to remove Gaston's and the bathrooms and use that footprint to build a queue for the ride. Riders could load on the existing side of MK Drive and the vehicles could pass over the road to a large show building on the far side of the road. They can even keep the existing gift shop as a place where you exit from the ride into.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Not for nothing, but if they really wanted to go that route (adding the TDS BatB ride to the MK), I would think the best bet would be to remove Gaston's and the bathrooms and use that footprint to build a queue for the ride. Riders could load on the existing side of MK Drive and the vehicles could pass over the road to a large show building on the far side of the road. They can even keep the existing gift shop as a place where you exit from the ride into.
That would work too. They may even be able to rework a version of Gastons within the ride showbuilding.
 

Cesar R M

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I wish this was true. I wouldn't spend so much money on take out. lol
Clearly you didnt get the message.
not everyone can be a good cook, but a good cook can come from ANYWHERE.

Ratatouille is set squarely in this century in Paris... BATB is a fairy tale and should honestly remain in the Magic Kingdom... I know they are both fantasy stories, but one is sort of all about cooking and the culinary ties to France...the other is a fairy tale set in France, but it is not necessarily specific to the plot...except for one line in the Be Our Guest song....Princess stories though really should remain in the Magic Kingdom...

Could this be the excuse of why there is a frozen ride?
I mean... Elsa is not a princess. she's a queen..

A ride about a french restaurant, next to 2 french restaurants is way too far.:rolleyes:

Unless you're one of these executives screaming SYNERGY!!
 

Cesar R M

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Which is perfectly fine with me because that honestly felt like a cheat to me. I want to eat at Gusteau's or the bistro at the end of the movie, not some French Honey I Shrunk the Kids playset.
I wonder why they dont build Gusteau's and use the trick used in the Oscars when the ants of Pixar's A bug's life presented an award.
 

AEfx

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They should just add the emirates, saudi arabia, etc.. Pretty sure many of these kingdoms are enough rich to buy and build a 1 Km tall tower right on world showcase.

Thing is, with Aladdin, he's not actually middle eastern in origin. He was added to the Arabian Nights by a Frenchman if I recall, and the story originated in Syria (and took place in China, I want to say?).
 

jt04

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They could still fit it in. They would probably need to relocate the restrooms next to Gaston's tavern and build a walkway across Magic Kingdom Drive to the grassy area behind the current LM show building. They would probably need to either relocate the road or dig down to make the road a tunnel and the pedestrian walkway over Magic Kingdom drive a bridge. It's probably cheaper to just relocate the road behind the new show building. See the photo below:

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They could still fit it in. They would probably need to relocate the restrooms next to Gaston's tavern and build a walkway across Magic Kingdom Drive to the grassy area behind the current LM show building. They would probably need to either relocate the road or dig down to make the road a tunnel and the pedestrian walkway over Magic Kingdom drive a bridge. It's probably cheaper to just relocate the road behind the new show building. See the photo below:

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The road can rather easily be relocated to come in directly from the north (not shown in photo). Preferably themed this time from the railroad.

This would create a major expansion space for things like a BATB ride, Pixie Hollow, etc. But more importantly in my opinion is the possibility of a new parade storage facility and a rerouting of the parade route. Eliminating the current frontierland/liberty square bottle neck.

Might have to wait for the next CEO for all that.
 

Bocabear

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Didn't Disneyland Paris have an exclusivity contract on Ratatouille for a certain amount of years?
I thought I read that somewhere... Even so, at the pace Disney moves on construction, they could begin the project now and it would have long expired before it is completed...
There are many other opportunities for attractions at EPCOT that do not necessarily involve princesses.... There is still the matter of the unbuilt Japan attraction...The Unbuilt Germany attraction, the completely vacant pad where Equatorial Africa was to have been... This is why I get so frustrated with the current regime always closing something to add something else...they have the space, and the park could use more attractions...
 

Sir_Cliff

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I will say this, as someone who as been to Parc Disneyland and had multiple chances to ride Ratatouille, I can tell you that this ride would easily become the most popular ride at EPCOT. Ratatouille is a fantastic attraction that seems to fit the mold of somewhere between IOA Spiderman and a trackless system. It's not a thrilling as Spiderman but the effects are quiet spectacular! I think it would be a welcomed addition to the French pavilion. I also would be sad to see IDF go but as someone stated there is an expansion pad between France and Morocco and from the looks of it from google maps, its quite large.
I agree, I think it would be hugely popular and, honestly, far above the quality of most of what is on offer at Epcot these days. It's fun, kind of charming, thematically appropriate for the pavilion, and something the whole family could do. In short, the kind of attraction Disney traditionally excelled at.

I would have thought it was also a relatively affordable addition for a park that desperately needs them. Perhaps the problem is that they don't envision selling many little plush rats nor making a Ratatouille 2 anytime soon.
 

erider

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I have ridden Ratatouille many times at WDS, and I still have the opinion that it is an ok attraction but nothing great. There is not a single animatronic and you literally go from screen to screen with just 1 scene with some set pieces in between (the fridge room). It's also not very exciting like Spiderman since you hardly notice the movements of the ride vehicle. I never heard anybody cheering or clapping exiting this ride. I have also ridden Frozen at Epcot and I like that better.
 

jaxonp

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I have ridden Ratatouille many times at WDS, and I still have the opinion that it is an ok attraction but nothing great. There is not a single animatronic and you literally go from screen to screen with just 1 scene with some set pieces in between (the fridge room). It's also not very exciting like Spiderman since you hardly notice the movements of the ride vehicle. I never heard anybody cheering or clapping exiting this ride. I have also ridden Frozen at Epcot and I like that better.


Couple of things that are important to understand about this ride in France. The French do not tend to overly react to things, including things like theme park attraction. It is rare to see them get super excited like Americans do at the parks here. It's just a cultural thing. They find us to be obnoxious. It is what it is. Also, the ride captures Paris quite well, in a Disney way, Paris is a huge city, 10 million strong, yet it always has this calm serenity that other large cities of its size just don't have. The ride itself is set to you being a Rat sneaking around... it isn't going to be like Spiderman because it's supposed to be a quiet rat trying to be unnoticed. Disney nailed this one. Maybe you just like older more classic rides full of animatronics and to each their own but Ratatouille is fantastic. Frozen has impressive animatronics but that is where it stops.. the story is lacking and/or just downright bad and the ride is still old, clunky & lacks sophistication that Ratatouille has. Sorry but those two rides are in different classes. Of course... IMO..
 

dizneeboy

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I have ridden Ratatouille many times at WDS, and I still have the opinion that it is an ok attraction but nothing great. There is not a single animatronic and you literally go from screen to screen with just 1 scene with some set pieces in between (the fridge room). It's also not very exciting like Spiderman since you hardly notice the movements of the ride vehicle. I never heard anybody cheering or clapping exiting this ride. I have also ridden Frozen at Epcot and I like that better.

Agreed on all accounts. Its a cute ride but didn't impress me enough to warrant a reride. Additionally, calling out the statements that its extremely popular, the line stays long due to frequent breakdowns. We got a fast pass for it and it broke down twice while in the fastpass line. I love that it will give more to do if ever brought stateside, but I'd rather see something original and more entertaining like Mystic Manor scale.
 

jaxonp

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Agreed on all accounts. Its a cute ride but didn't impress me enough to warrant a reride. Additionally, calling out the statements that its extremely popular, the line stays long due to frequent breakdowns. We got a fast pass for it and it broke down twice while in the fastpass line. I love that it will give more to do if ever brought stateside, but I'd rather see something original and more entertaining like Mystic Manor scale.


How many times have you been to Parc Disneyland? Lot's of breakdowns happened when it first opened, which is to be expected for a new ride, similar to the all brand new Frozen attraction that used the guts of a ride that had been there before Parc Disneyland was built... Ohh yea, without a doubt Ratatouille is the most popular attraction and it has a decent capacity, unlike its almost equally popular neighbor.. Crush Coaster.
 

dizneeboy

Active Member
How many times have you been to Parc Disneyland? Lot's of breakdowns happened when it first opened, which is to be expected for a new ride, similar to the all brand new Frozen attraction that used the guts of a ride that had been there before Parc Disneyland was built... Ohh yea, without a doubt Ratatouille is the most popular attraction and it has a decent capacity, unlike its almost equally popular neighbor.. Crush Coaster.

A few times. Was just there the end of September for the half marathon. However, the amount of times I visited doesn't really play into comments. Just giving my opinion from someone who loves Disney in general but thinks Parc disneyland is fantastic. I just don't share you enthusiasm for the ride ; )
 

Thanks phoenicians

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I see over on that other site ending in nt they came up with a list of top 7 new rumored ride coming to wdw and Rat was on their despite how it keeps getting shot down in here by insiders
 

Daveeeeed

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Ratatouille is a fantastic attraction. People just like to hate, or have never ridden it. It would not work at all at Universal as most of their etickets rely heavily on screens, but it would definitely work at a Disney park. It's not your Shanghai Pirates, or your HWS Tower of Terror, but it would easily be one of the top 10 best rides at WDW, and is an excellent attraction. As you can see from my profile pic, I've ridden it, and it is very good. Might make some people motion sick like Soarin' but having no height requirement and killer capacity is exactly is what the park needs. Yes, I'd prefer an original attraction, but at least it would not rid an original attraction like Frozen did, and is an absolute stunning ip that is leaps and bounds above the quality of Frozen. Not to mention the LPS technology used is very, very good. Really feels like you are a rat.
 

Bocabear

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Ratatouille is a fantastic attraction. People just like to hate, or have never ridden it. It would not work at all at Universal as most of their etickets rely heavily on screens, but it would definitely work at a Disney park. It's not your Shanghai Pirates, or your HWS Tower of Terror, but it would easily be one of the top 10 best rides at WDW, and is an excellent attraction. As you can see from my profile pic, I've ridden it, and it is very good. Might make some people motion sick like Soarin' but having no height requirement and killer capacity is exactly is what the park needs. Yes, I'd prefer an original attraction, but at least it would not rid an original attraction like Frozen did, and is an absolute stunning ip that is leaps and bounds above the quality of Frozen. Not to mention the LPS technology used is very, very good. Really feels like you are a rat.
I agree...and I think this is one case of an ip being a perfect fit for EPCOT... it's not a gray area princess story or fairytale that belongs in Fantasyland...it's kind of perfect and would be a great addition to World Showcase....as long as they don't remove Impressions De France.
then they need to keep the ball rolling and do something in Japan and Germany and the UK... that would GREATLY improve the overall park popularity and attendance.
 

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