Ratatouille in Epcot

[RoysCabin]

Thankfully though, Ratatouille is not a book report ride, is actually a very good eticket, and fits Frances perfectly. Wish we'd get an original attraction if we are to get one, but thenride is so good, with a great no height requirement capacity that it seems almost crazy for Disney not to have it in France. I think a train type of simulator that moves ride would be splendid for France. You could see Paris, see the countryside and the mountains, but again for an ip Ratatouille would be the best for the park. (I feel like Hunchback would be too, but I don't know if they would make it an eticket, at least we have proof with the already great Ratatoille).

Oh, certainly; I much prefer the idea of "take a cool aspect of the movie and flesh it out into a ride" to book report style (one of the sad steps down taken in the transition from WED to WDI was the deemphasis on the former and the pushing of the latter), and of most possible IP concepts, again, this one is on the less offensive side especially if it were to be a new structure and not a replacement. Absolutely agreed on that front.

I do recall an armchair Imagineering session around here a little while ago where we thought about how Disney could possibly make IP attractions in World Showcase that still manage to avoid their more obvious drawbacks; I thought a cool idea was having a ride that took guests from the French provinces through to Paris, and integrating some France-based Disney characters to highlight France and French culture/storytelling/literature rather than upstaging it (a quick Beauty and the Beast reference in the provinces leading to a glorious unveiling of Paris, complete with Quasimodo ringing Notre Dame's bells, etc). That said, I dig the idea of a train ride, especially if it could be presented as a subterranean ride between the France and UK pavilions (since the International Gateway is essentially supposed to be the Channel). Good stuff.

End of the day, I just love the concept of World Showcase keeping things kind of low key with its rides and attractions; a focus on more C or D ticket style attractions (with American Adventure as the E) helps to maintain that laid back, slower paced feeling that WS manages to maintain and most of the other parks and areas don't. But that doesn't necessarily help as much with crowd control, I suppose.

 

[SplashJacket]

Ratatouille is a fantastic ride that really engages the rider. It is not a ride such as Mexico that you are awkwardly there. It is like toy story midway mania in the way that it engages with you, and you feel there. It is not focused solely on the IP and more of the environment. Fantastic ride, I was against Frozen in Norway but I am perfectly fine with having Ratatouille in Frace. Also, this is my post will have a photo of me at Splash once I go in Thanksgiving!

 

[No Name]

None of those three have identical ride systems. Building three rides at the same time with the same ride system would be unprecedented. I want variety, not three rides using 15-year old ride system technology.

I think it is absurd as it is that they will be building two LPS rides at DHS to open at the same time.

Perhaps they shouldn't have added Pirates of the Carribean to MK, because It's a Small World and the Jungle Cruise had opened only two years earlier?

An LPS vehicle is simply a form of transportation. A very good one, in my opinion, but at its core it is part of a ride system. Just like those three boat rides, The look and story of all three LPS rides would be distinctly different.

It's also a very good system. First of all, as some other posters have described, it moves in reaction to things happening in the ride. Most rides don't do that. There's also no track, which adds such a huge element of surprise and realism. You can't look in front of you and know which way you'll move next. The cars can also dance or move in different combinations and do a whole variety of things. Finally, every Disney LPS ride is a guest favorite. If there were no major advantages to this system, Disney wouldn't spend the boatload of extra money that these vehicles cost.

But let's even say you don't agree with anything I wrote above. Between SWL, TSL, the GotG coaster, Ratatouille, and the Great Mickey ride... only 3 of those 7 possible upcoming rides would use LPS. Considering that WDW currently has zero LPS rides, I see no issue with playing a bit of catch-up and adding three, including two in the same park.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Perhaps they shouldn't have added Pirates of the Carribean to MK, because It's a Small World and the Jungle Cruise had opened only two years earlier?

An LPS vehicle is simply a form of transportation. A very good one, in my opinion, but at its core it is part of a ride system. Just like those three boat rides, The look and story of all three LPS rides would be distinctly different.

It's also a very good system. First of all, as some other posters have described, it moves in reaction to things happening in the ride. Most rides don't do that. There's also no track, which adds such a huge element of surprise and realism. You can't look in front of you and know which way you'll move next. The cars can also dance or move in different combinations and do a whole variety of things. Finally, every Disney LPS ride is a guest favorite. If there were no major advantages to this system, Disney wouldn't spend the boatload of extra money that these vehicles cost.

But let's even say you don't agree with anything I wrote above. Between SWL, TSL, the GotG coaster, Ratatouille, and the Great Mickey ride... only 3 of those 7 possible upcoming rides would use LPS. Considering that WDW currently has zero LPS rides, I see no issue with playing a bit of catch-up and adding three, including two in the same park.

And I respect your opinion. It's a great ride system. I would prefer that more of what is coming to WDW be WDW-exclusive. But new is new I suppose.

 

[Daveeeeed]

Perhaps they shouldn't have added Pirates of the Carribean to MK, because It's a Small World and the Jungle Cruise had opened only two years earlier?

An LPS vehicle is simply a form of transportation. A very good one, in my opinion, but at its core it is part of a ride system. Just like those three boat rides, The look and story of all three LPS rides would be distinctly different.

It's also a very good system. First of all, as some other posters have described, it moves in reaction to things happening in the ride. Most rides don't do that. There's also no track, which adds such a huge element of surprise and realism. You can't look in front of you and know which way you'll move next. The cars can also dance or move in different combinations and do a whole variety of things. Finally, every Disney LPS ride is a guest favorite. If there were no major advantages to this system, Disney wouldn't spend the boatload of extra money that these vehicles cost.

But let's even say you don't agree with anything I wrote above. Between SWL, TSL, the GotG coaster, Ratatouille, and the Great Mickey ride... only 3 of those 7 possible upcoming rides would use LPS. Considering that WDW currently has zero LPS rides, I see no issue with playing a bit of catch-up and adding three, including two in the same park.

Completely agree, we need them too.

 

[RoysCabin]

And I respect your opinion. It's a great ride system. I would prefer that more of what is coming to WDW be WDW-exclusive. But new is new I suppose.

I believe there's a fascinating discussion to be had on the nature of theme park ride vehicles; is it better when we don't notice them at all? When they focus most heavily on practicality (capacity, continuous movement, etc.)? When they manage to change the game in some way, shape, or form? I've long felt that a big reason I'm into Omnimovers, for example, is that the ride system itself is nowhere near as noticeable and thus leaves the emphasis of the ride experience on the sets/characters and animatronics/music, etc., but there's certainly something to the trackless system that does open up some exciting avenues that I think still haven't really been fully explored.

 

[JenniferS]

I'm hopeful some will.

You said "some"!

 

[Matt_Black]

I believe there's a fascinating discussion to be had on the nature of theme park ride vehicles; is it better when we don't notice them at all? When they focus most heavily on practicality (capacity, continuous movement, etc.)? When they manage to change the game in some way, shape, or form? I've long felt that a big reason I'm into Omnimovers, for example, is that the ride system itself is nowhere near as noticeable and thus leaves the emphasis of the ride experience on the sets/characters and animatronics/music, etc., but there's certainly something to the trackless system that does open up some exciting avenues that I think still haven't really been fully explored.

We all know boat rides are superior. Because you're in a boat. Boats are the GOAT.

 

[jt04]

Everything in WS is blue sky. Nothing more yet.

As far as I know there's no proposal for Canada or Japan at this time.

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[RoysCabin]

We all know boat rides are superior. Because you're in a boat. Boats are the GOAT.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I get why some people don't get the love for Impressions and other films like it; this isn't the 80s anymore, people have slightly easier access to world travel, or at least world cuisine, and can watch a travelog or documentary on any number of outlets. For me, though, shows like Impressions are just quintessential Disney; capturing the essence of something in such a way to leave you wanting more, and striking you in ways that make you want to start exploring on your own.

I'll also state the obvious and say there's a bit of a difference between watching Jan & David's Paris Vlog on your iphone and vieiwing a multi-screen 70mm presentation at the Palais du Cinéma. However dated the visual material may be, the appeal of specialty film presentations like Reflections of China still exists for many Epcot visitors, and they're worth keeping/updating if for no other reason than their capacity and chance to give guests a place to sit down or be in a air conditioned space for 20 min.

 

[rnese]

This is one of a few proposals for the site and for WS.

Note I say proposals.

Dually noted sir!
I know you choose your words very carefully, so I pay special attention to how you used a plural "proposals" as opposed to the singular.
Interesting.

 

[RoysCabin]

I'll also state the obvious and say there's a bit of a difference between watching Jan & David's Paris Vlog on your iphone and vieiwing a multi-screen 70mm presentation at the Palais du Cinéma. However dated the visual material may be, the appeal of specialty film presentations like Reflections of China still exists for many Epcot visitors, and they're worth keeping/updating if for no other reason than their capacity and chance to give guests a place to sit down or be in a air conditioned space for 20 min.

Believe you me, I am 100% with you on that. The setting, the music, the ambiance, the artistry, it all makes for an experience you're not just going to get anywhere else, which is what Disney should be striving to do with just about any attraction they create (and why so many of the approximately 15+ minute attractions that have gone away over the years are so missed by so many).

...And, well, yeah, the A/C is a sweet bonus. I absolutely adore Impressions, but I'm not ashamed to admit that on a particularly muggy, sticky, sweltering day a few years ago I schlepped in there and found myself dozing off to the wonderful sounds of French composers. That may sound like an indictment of the film, but it is absolutely anything but; it was just such a great setting, climate, and tone that I happily drifted off. I made up for it by heading back over a couple of days later to really enjoy it.

But yes, things like that also apply to O Canada, Reflections of China, and while we had it even the very brief Spirit of Norway (of all of them, the one that most needed an update).

 

[PizzaPlanet]

I'm hopeful some will.

Do you think what is being proposed for the France pad will be as good or superior to Ratatouille?

 

[rnese]

I'm hopeful some will.

Ah!...Ah!...
"Some"...See what I mean?
I like it!
Some is more than one!
Am I right? Am I right?

 

[marni1971]

Do you think what is being proposed for the France pad will be as good or superior to Ratatouille?

One of the proposals is a clone of the WDSP attraction to sit next to the France pavilion. So it would be the same.

 

[WDWdream97]

Everything in WS is blue sky. Nothing more yet.

As far as I know there's no proposal for Canada or Japan at this time.

So there is blue sky stuff for the U.K. pavilion? Please say it's not just an expansion for R&C.

 

[Daveeeeed]

Oh, certainly; I much prefer the idea of "take a cool aspect of the movie and flesh it out into a ride" to book report style (one of the sad steps down taken in the transition from WED to WDI was the deemphasis on the former and the pushing of the latter), and of most possible IP concepts, again, this one is on the less offensive side especially if it were to be a new structure and not a replacement. Absolutely agreed on that front.

I do recall an armchair Imagineering session around here a little while ago where we thought about how Disney could possibly make IP attractions in World Showcase that still manage to avoid their more obvious drawbacks; I thought a cool idea was having a ride that took guests from the French provinces through to Paris, and integrating some France-based Disney characters to highlight France and French culture/storytelling/literature rather than upstaging it (a quick Beauty and the Beast reference in the provinces leading to a glorious unveiling of Paris, complete with Quasimodo ringing Notre Dame's bells, etc). That said, I dig the idea of a train ride, especially if it could be presented as a subterranean ride between the France and UK pavilions (since the International Gateway is essentially supposed to be the Channel). Good stuff.

End of the day, I just love the concept of World Showcase keeping things kind of low key with its rides and attractions; a focus on more C or D ticket style attractions (with American Adventure as the E) helps to maintain that laid back, slower paced feeling that WS manages to maintain and most of the other parks and areas don't. But that doesn't necessarily help as much with crowd control, I suppose.

It would be so cool to have a train that has motion similiar to Kong, but uses more sets and screens, and for the finally the train goes outdoor across the waterway and then goes inside for two scenes and finally unload. Story switches depending on where you start.

 

[lazyboy97o]

However, on the positive side, were something along the lines of the Paris ride to be brought over and placed in the expansion pad, I'd be a lot more forgiving of it given that it would likely use an exterior that matches the surrounding area well

Unfortunately it seems the likely solution would be to largely replicate what has already been done at Walt Disney Studios Parks. While the larger forms following are similar to those seen at the France Pavilion, the area is devoid of detail. In trying to not build Paris outside of Paris the ornamentation of the land presents a rat-obsessed universe that is anachronistic even to the world of Ratatouille.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Unfortunately it seems the likely solution would be to largely replicate what has already been done at Walt Disney Studios Parks. While the larger forms following are similar to those seen at the France Pavilion, the area is devoid of detail. In trying to not build Paris outside of Paris the ornamentation of the land presents a rat-obsessed universe that is anachronistic even to the world of Ratatouille.

Rat Paris ( the theme park land, not the vast areas near the Seine under rodent rule) is to WS Paris as MK classic FL is to WS Germany.