Prices for the Polynesian DVC Bungalows

[flyerjab]

I was joking.

Way to confuse the rookies!

 

[Hakunamatata]

Way to confuse the rookies!

Don't I get a forum trophy for that?

 

[Nemo14]

Don't I get a forum trophy for that?

only if you make them cry...

 

[Hakunamatata]

only if you make them cry...

Dang.

 

[keylimesqueeze]

We just receizved notification that prices are being set for the Bungalows at The Poly. The lowest seasonal price is around $2100/night, compared to as high as $2900/night during Christmas and the other high seasons.

Points are supposedly going to start during pre-sale at $160/point up until 09Feb2015.

Seems as though WDW is going for an entirely new type of clientele for these units. Definitely will not be staying in these any time soon.

EDIT: This was first seen on @tikiman's Facebook page for the resort.

We just received notification that prices are being set for the Bungalows at The Poly. The lowest seasonal price is around $2100/night, compared to as high as $2900/night during Christmas and the other high seasons.

Points are supposedly going to start during pre-sale at $160/point up until 09Feb2015.

Seems as though WDW is going for an entirely new type of clientele for these units. Definitely will not be staying in these any time soon.

EDIT: This was first seen on @tikiman's Facebook page for the resort.

That makes me want to vomit! If I had unlimited funds there is no way I would shell out that kind of money for 1 nights stay there. Thats shameful. Maybe my financial priorities are out of whack, IDK.

 

[jakeman]

That makes me want to vomit! If I had unlimited funds there is no way I would shell out that kind of money for 1 nights stay there. Thats shameful. Maybe my financial priorities are out of whack, IDK.

Nah, you're just a bit judgey.

Welcome to the club.

 

[Hakunamatata]

That makes me want to vomit!

I find chewing on some fresh ginger root helps with that.

 

[BrerJon]

Everyone? Maybe I missed something. Am I supposed to go look at the MK from the Poly beach? Been to WDW countless times and have never had the urge to go stand on the Poly beach and gaze upon the MK. Was this a special ticketed event?

No tickets needed, one of the few free things in Disney. Heading to the Poly, getting a cocktail and sitting on the beach watching the water pageant has been one of the best things to do in WDW for decades - no charge to do it either. If you've never done it, you've missed out.

That view has now been severely restricted by the Pizza-Huts.

 

[Hakunamatata]

No tickets needed, one of the few free things in Disney. Heading to the Poly, getting a cocktail and sitting on the beach watching the water pageant has been one of the best things to do in WDW for decades - no charge to do it either. If you've never done it, you've missed out.

That view has now been severely restricted by the Pizza-Huts.

Ah. I've actually enjoyed the water pageant from the WL beach area.

 

[WDW1974]

We can all be jealous and cry and whine and say how stupid Disney is for setting such outrageous point and cash values......but guess what? They're going to get sold and rented by someone.

And then we call THEM stupid and mommy bloggers and pixie dusters...

That's how that works right?

I gotta love this thread. Seriously, 25 pages of inanity and it doesn't involve me (yet!) ... @wdwmagic must be thrilled!

To be honest, I've skimmed quite a few pages here ... that's what happens when you're watching Tom Brady and the Patriots show what winners do. You already knew the ending, sorta like this thread. But there's still the entertainment of how you'll get there.

I quoted the two fine gentlemen above simply because I thought both points were simple and accurate, if not especially eloquent.

Now, there absolutely is jealously by some (at least folks like @sshindel admitted that was his case). Some of us aren't jealous, though. We're sorta angry and amused at how blatantly money-grubbing Bob Iger's WDC has become and how so many people feel the need to either attack those who are bothered by this 'vision' for WDW or simply fall upon the absurd 'Disney is a business so they can do anything blah, blah, blah' line that they ignorantly feel is the answer to any critique of a company in 2015.

I have no doubt that these villas will be a huge success (I am the one who has already seen concept art of what they intend to do at the WL, so they damn well know they can do this and make lots of money by doing it.)

@Tom is right.

They will be sold and/or rented. They will become some of hardest WDW units to book. Count on it.

What I find amusing beyond belief is that many of you actually think these are for the rich. The top of the one percent bracket. People that see $2500 a night like you'd see $250 or maybe $150 a night. If you think that,well, that's where you folks are incredibly off, as misguided as can be.

I may only be a faux top one percenter (one thing this place and the Twitverse has taught me is that very few people apparently know the definition of faux), but I am related to one percenters (at the very high end) and I have worked and played and traveled with others.

Real one percenters, people who care about exclusivity and luxury? They ain't who these bugalows (yes, that was intentional because while killer amoeba is greatly exaggerated as an issue in those waters and always brings amusement to discussions of natural water at WDW, the fact they breed zillions of mosquitoes can't be shouted loud enough, are being built for or marketed to.

Most of those folks have zero interest in WDW. If they care or want to take their children, then they'll come and rent high end suites, either on property or off. Those presidential suites and VP suites. From the Grand Flo to the Poly to the Ritz Carlton and, mots assuredly, the new luxury Four Seasons. Some will wind up in Golden Oak too. That's where they'll go. Not the little shacks out on the swamp. And you guys/gals are right, money is of no concern to them. But value for that money and, much more importantly, service and standards are.

No, these villas are aimed at another audience entirely.

And that brings me to Jake's post.

The people who are being looked at for these new options are the Disney chronics, many who have some money (but are not loaded by any stretch), many who get that money from all of us be it government workers, military or folks on disabilities (real and imagined). They are aimed at folks who already own DVC, but might like more. They are aimed at Lifestylers.

There are people who will come and stay at the Grand Flo for a week while their bills go unpaid ... some of them have even put those comments on this very forum (in discussions I have steered clear of) ... Disney is such an addiction for them.

Jake used the word ''stupid'' to describe these people because it is inflammatory and likely to get reactions (as it has, as I am doing as well). Are they stupid?

Who knows? Everyone's circumstances are different. Generally, I don't find folks who buy/own timeshare to be making smart financial decisions. But for some people, it can work and be smart. I don't own DVC (I have relations who do) and I've never found Disney's sales pitches at all compelling evidence that I was missing out on something. Now, my significant other ('Angie M' for those kids playing at home in the Twitverse) bought resale DVC at the BW at quite a discount BEFORE she ever met me, and she doubled her points with a resale at WLV in the last year after we tossed it around. I recently spent a week at WDW on DVC points. ... But the idea of ever buying any at retail, from Disney, strikes me as a profoundly unwise and, yes, stupid decision.

And that's what we're here for (beyond paying for Steve's retirement by driving revenue to this site), to discuss what we think of various aspects of WDW, TWDC and themed entertainment.

Some of us are jealous. Some of us don't care at all. Some of us are amused. Some bemused. Some sickened. Some can't wait to write checks (some even credit checks!) to Ken Potrock and George Kalogridis and Co.

Like goes on no matter how we feel. But this site exists for us to express any of the above opinions and argue them and then some.

I am sure the ''Mommy Bloggers'' and the ''pixie dusters'' that Jake referenced will love them. They exist for that purpose.

I do wonder if Disney will be giving freebies any of their bloggingwhores for these. My guess is they'll all get tours before they open, so they can give DVC free advertising and publicity. I doubt that anyone in the O-Town circles will get a comped stay except for a whale like Lou Mongello. Beyond him, I'd be shocked if @WDWFigment doesn't stay there on his own DVC points quickly and Mrs. Brigante's meal-ticket has the money to stay there on cash. The rest of the O-Towners in the circle couldn't afford it if their lives depended upon it, although I could see three couples getting together and renting one for a few nights and then they tell all their flocks how amazing they are etc ...

Will I ever stay there? Doubtful. I don't see much value in them from the DVC standpoint and none whatsoever from the cash standpoint.

Maybe it's my roots showing, but I'd much rather experience the real thing in Bora Bora myself (even without MAGIC Bands, Disney buses, chicken fingers and ECVs!)

Now ... I'll go back to my Spirited thread and wish you all good luck in getting this to 50 pages by Monday!

 

[Cesar R M]

No, but is a view of MK worth thousands of dollars? How long are you going to spend looking at it? You don't even see much apart from the MyMagic turnstiles, the train station and the top of the castle.

I only can think of the fireworks being the main draw...

 

[Cesar R M]

Roll eyes all you want. My point is most people use the following thought process when choosing vacationing at Disney:

• I'm going to Disney.
• How much do I want to spend.
• Where do I want to stay and how long.

They don't use the following process:

• I want to stay in a bungalow over swamp water.
• Oh Disney has one.
• It's too expensive.

The primary purpose for most people for going to Disney is what entertainment experience Disney provides. Lodging generally is a secondary part of the decision process so that if someone with the means to afford these bungalows wants to stay in them, they will.

just by using your primary points.. it will instantly discard the pizza huts for any sane person.
good try using these ridiculous and out of the park points anyway (specially your swamp water remark)

 

[Cesar R M]

This comment shows that you simply hold the wealthy in contempt. Most wealthy people are not Hollywood pop culture wanna be TMZ fodder. Most blend in with the rest of the crowd.

you know what else rich people do?
they dont make dumb money decisions (at least the majority). hence why they are rich.
another point that discards the value of these pizza huts

As another explained it very well, the huts would be for those high level middle class hunting for the "one in a life time" opportunity for "the best".

Rich people already know better ways to expend their money than an insanely overpriced hut.

I think too many people believe that the mega rich just hap hazardly throw their money around. Most wealthy people are the cheapest you will meet and they will be the first to tell you that they didnt get wealthy by spending. Thats not to say they wouldnt spend the money on these bungalows for the kids sake, but their also not going to just plop the money down without consideration. I know several clients I have for work who live in $500K-$1M homes and they still use services like Groupon and PriceLine. Getting a rich person to part with their money can more difficult than you think. Ill never forget what one man told me. He said, "the wealthier you get, the more greedy you get"

THIS!!!!!!!!
The ones who like to flaunt and waste the money.. are those who have superstar lifestyles.
Those of Paris Hilton or Music stars for example.

 

[Cesar R M]

No, because Le Meridien Bora Bora is a true luxury resort in a true exotic location. The Poly Bungalows are pretend luxury accommodations in a pretend exotic location.

This is a "world" where the counterfeit costs more than the original. $1,200 for an actual Renoir vs. $2,300 for the fake Mickey "Renoir". Just because people will buy it doesn't mean that it's Art.

Unfortunately, the bungalows below don't have an MK view. What a shame.

ill take these gorgeous views anytime than MK's.

Think Bugatti Veyron and you are now talking about a 1% car.

http://www.bugatti.com/en/veyron.html

Didn't they stop building that car because they were way too expensive to build vs the cost?

 

[Cesar R M]

Where is this documented?

if wealthy people want something.. they DONT SHARE.
they BUY.. CUSTOMIZE.. and then RENT/SELL if they have the place unused for too long.

I posted some of this in another thread but because people keep arguing it:

All of this "for half the price you could get this and stay in the real bora bora etc. etc..." Is like saying why would you stay in The Venetian or Paris hotels in Vegas when in the REAL Venice and Paris you can stay in an authentic Venetian or Parisian hotel for a cheaper price and have a MUCH better experience!
Well... I'm pretty sure those people in those hotels in Vegas are staying there and paying the prices available to them because... they wanted to go to Vegas. And they simply chose a hotel in Vegas that they liked the look of and they chose to spend their money on.

Just like the people in Disney are choosing to go... to Disney. And to stay in Disney. And are simply choosing a hotel they like the look of theme wise and to their chosen price point.

I can't imagine anyone who has booked to stay at the Poly did so because "Oh hey, why go to Hawaii when for 4 x the price I can stay in a Disney hotel themed to Hawaii!". I'm guessing they were looking to book a holiday... In Disney World. And then chose a hotel they liked the theme of.

Oh and I also have experience with rich people, and guess what, there isn't just one type. I know those who pay for the most expensive things for the sake of it, those who just pay whatever the price happens to be when they happen to go places or buy things, and those who do still look for the value of things and wouldn't dream of spending money like that even though they could afford to. Because... rich people... are people. And people are different and have different values, beliefs and tastes, whatever their income.

Apples to Oranges again. Because Venice is for the cultural/historic aspect.
The Venetian is for the broadway shows and casinos.

You would be barking mad if you go to the Venetian to see "The Venice feel".
And pretty sure you would not be getting a "Poly feel" in some pizza huts above an stagnant water lake.

 

[Ariel1986]

if wealthy people want something.. they DONT SHARE.
they BUY.. CUSTOMIZE.. and then RENT/SELL if they have the place unused for too long.


Apples to Oranges again. Because Venice is for the cultural/historic aspect.
The Venetian is for the broadway shows and casinos.

You would be barking mad if you go to the Venetian to see "The Venice feel".
And pretty sure you would not be getting a "Poly feel" in some pizza huts above an stagnant water lake.

That was my whole point- which you've missed- that people saying you could stay in Bora Bora for a better experience than those bungalow is the same Apples to Oranges as if people were to say you should got to actual Venice instead of the Venetian in Vegas. Of course the Vegas casino is not Venice! Just as these bungalows at Disney aren't Bora Bora. People aren't going to be staying at these bungalows because they want a "beach hut over crystal waters luxury beach holiday" but because they want to go to Disney World and see these as the larger accommodations to stay in with a view of the castle/fireworks and their own private mini pool. If they wanted that luxury beach holiday... Then that's likely what they would book.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Nah, you're just a bit judgey.

Welcome to the club.

Well you're being a bit judgey for people having opinions, so......

 

[PhotoDave219]

Didn't they stop building that car because they were way too expensive to build vs the cost?

I have one of those.......







In Grand Theft Auto V.

 

[Cesar R M]

I have one of those.......







In Grand Theft Auto V.

lol good one!

That was my whole point- which you've missed- that people saying you could stay in Bora Bora for a better experience than those bungalow is the same Apples to Oranges as if people were to say you should got to actual Venice instead of the Venetian in Vegas. Of course the Vegas casino is not Venice! Just as these bungalows at Disney aren't Bora Bora. People aren't going to be staying at these bungalows because they want a "beach hut over crystal waters luxury beach holiday" but because they want to go to Disney World and see these as the larger accommodations to stay in with a view of the castle/fireworks and their own private mini pool. If they wanted that luxury beach holiday... Then that's likely what they would book.

their own private mini pool.

 

[Figment2005]

"My most expensive product" != 1%er product

End of story

No need to be snarky about it. I consider any vehicle that costs as much as a house to be aimed at more well off people.

End of Story.