Pocket knives at the parks

[IWantMyMagicBand]

Just emailed Disney World with my concerns as a UK guest regarding guests without bags entering the parks concealing firearms and knives without being searched and what are their policies on this and what are they doing to keep guests safe and how they deal with such individuals. If this page is still on page 1 when I get the response I will share it.

Should be interesting.

lol I did too about an hour ago. We're such tittle tattles

 

[englanddg]

I don't carry a pocketknife. I carry needlenose pliars.

 

[BigTxEars]

I'm curious if Disney would set aside the knife rule if it were considered part of ones religion to have one. I understand that some religions include keeping knives or swords on ones person. Would they allow that if religion were involved?

Good question, I would doubt it. I am sure there is a lawsuit somewhere waiting to happen though

 

[IWantMyMagicBand]

I'm curious if Disney would set aside the knife rule if it were considered part of ones religion to have one. I understand that some religions include keeping knives or swords on ones person. Would they allow that if religion were involved?

Don't throw curveballs. International guests shouldn't go to WDW.

 

[BigTxEars]

lol I did too about an hour ago. We're such tittle tattles

Great now I am getting frisked by a giant mouse! I hope it's Minnie and not Mickey.....not that there's anything wrong with that......

 

[BigTxEars]

Every country should cater to the International Guest, it called Economics. You do know the world is not flat, right?

Every business catering is fine, not every country. I can think of a few places where wearing my American flag shirt down the street might not be a great ideal

Heck I don't even like when those Yankees come down to Texas with their weird customs.....

 

[draybook]

Sure, you're a stranger on the internet who apparently doesn't seem to know what he's talking about, why wouldn't I trust you?

Ok, since you don't believe me. Cardinal Health has it in their policy that certain weapons that include a magazine, grip, and firing pin are NOT allowed on the property. Well, here in Mississippi, state law says that any parking area that is NOT secure and/or fenced in is NOT subject to that policy and state law overrules Cardinal Health. But since you're smug and don't want to take my word for it, look it up. Until then, I'm done with you.

 

[Master Yoda]

FFLs selling at shows have all the same requirements on federal level as you posted. I do not think involving government in private firearms sales is realistic. I for one would prefer "loop holes" to an overly involved federal government.

As far as state governments goes, that is up to each to determine what they want to do. I care about Texas and only Texas in that regard as what they do in California for example does not effect me.

I was unaware that people from other states were not allowed to enter Texas.

What happens anywhere in the US can very easily effect you in Texas, so just a thought, but you might want to start caring.

 

[draybook]

No doubt, heck I never saw a mop or broom in those Marine Corps ads, saw a bunch after I got in though

Got that right! The two main things the Army taught me to do was kill and clean. Not much work out here for a hitman and most custodial jobs don't pay enough to support a family of four. You remember what they told us, "don't thank me thank your recruiter"!!

 

[PigletIsMyCat]

Heck I don't even like when those Yankees come down to Texas with their weird customs.....

 

[BigTxEars]

I was unaware that people from other states were not allowed to enter Texas.

What happens anywhere in the US can very easily effect you in Texas, so just a thought, but you might want to start caring.

Not is state rights, I don't want anyone messing in our affairs so I don't in theirs even if I disagree with the issue. I would love to comment on the laws in California or New York but if I did that I would have to listen to them comment about Texas laws, I don't want to do that.

If it involves federal law then it is up to those citizen in those states to drive the issue to the courts. I fully support the folks in Chicago in their attempt to regain their 2nd A rights thru the courts for example but I can do nothing to help drive the issue. If I did then I would have to be accepting of those in Chicago who wanted to drive issue in Texas, that I am not ready to do.

And we accept all kinds in Texas, nobody is growing like Texas is growing, nobody. But IMO if they move here (business or personal) then be ready to live within our state laws. If you don't like them then feel free not to move here thank you very much.

Texas is a different animal when it comes to nation issues IMO. Two rebellions already in our history, it's in the culture down here that we go our own way. Well except in Austin, those folks are just weird

I can send you some pictures of the bumper stickers around here calling for succession from the union Now I am not for that but the feeling is around here with some.

 

[Bairstow]

That's false. Private property doesn't override state law. At least not always. I can't give you my example, because apparently it's a trigger for one mod according to others, but trust me.

Magoo's actually right here.

In the instant example, just because the Florida Supreme Court has reached one definition for "weapon" as applies to the statutory definition of aggravated robbery does not forestall the Walt Disney Company from applying its own rules of guest behavior that apply a different definition for the word "weapon".

Nor would that supreme court decision prevent you, if you owned a house in Florida, deciding that green baseball caps were, in your mind, "weapons," and forbidding anyone from bringing a green baseball cap into your house.

 

[BigTxEars]

I kid...

In the 1980s when about 10,000,000 people moved here from Detroit it took me years to have them stop calling a soda a "pop"....we fixed them after a while though

I love my northern neighbors! Well except those from Pittsburgh....but that's based on the Oiler vs Steeler rivalry of the 70s and 80s.

 

[slappy magoo]

Ok, since you don't believe me. Cardinal Health has it in their policy that certain weapons that include a magazine, grip, and firing pin are NOT allowed on the property. Well, here in Mississippi, state law says that any parking area that is NOT secure and/or fenced in is NOT subject to that policy and state law overrules Cardinal Health. But since you're smug and don't want to take my word for it, look it up. Until then, I'm done with you.

But does it apply to their offices?

 

[BigTxEars]

Got that right! The two main things the Army taught me to do was kill and clean. Not much work out here for a hitman and most custodial jobs don't pay enough to support a family of four. You remember what they told us, "don't thank me thank your recruiter"!!

Yeah I can buff a floor like a champ! And I can clean spots in a room most folks don't know even exist Loose threads in my underwear, no sir!

If the service was like the ads I would still be jumping out of planes, SCUBA diving and driving a M1 tank on the "off" days

My son is in the USAF currently, and it has not changed from what he says

 

[IWantMyMagicBand]

I kid...

In the 1980s when about 10,000,000 people moved here from Detroit it took me years to have them stop calling a soda a "pop"....we fixed them after a while though

I love my northern neighbors! Well except those from Pittsburgh....but that's based on the Oiler vs Steeler rivalry of the 70s and 80s.

Don't you be stepping foot into World Showcase though, I hear those Internationals have taken over a good few acres and may try and push their culture onto you...

 

[BigTxEars]

In Texas anyways;

"Senate Bill 321 amends the Government Code to provide for the definition of “premises” for purposes of provisions regarding the rights of employers to prohibit a concealed handgun license holder from carrying a concealed handgun on the premises of a business. Senate Bill 321 amends the Labor Code to prohibit a public or private employer from prohibiting an employee who holds a concealed handgun license issued by the Department of Public Safety and who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm or ammunition from transporting or storing a firearm or ammunition the employee is lawfully authorized to possess in a locked, privately owned motor vehicle in a parking area the employer provides for employees, with certain exceptions. The bill specifies that the prohibition does not prohibit an employer from prohibiting an employee who holds a concealed handgun license, or who otherwise lawfully possesses a firearm, from possessing a firearm the employee is otherwise authorized by law to possess on the premises of the employer’s business. The bill provides immunity from civil liability for a public or private employer or the employer’s principal, officer, director, employee, or agent for any damages resulting from or arising out of an occurrence involving a firearm or ammunition transported or stored in accordance with the bill’s provisions, except in cases of gross negligence, and establishes that such immunity does not limit or alter the personal liability of an individual or employee who engages in certain actions involving a firearm or ammunition."

In essence we can carry a gun in our car even on company owned property. Before 321 your company could prevent you from having a firearm in your car in the parking lot at work for example. This passed in 2011 so that ability to restrict is no more. Logic being that how do you tell someone they can not carry to and from work where they very well might need to defend themselves along the way.

 

[BigTxEars]

Don't you be stepping foot into World Showcase though, I hear those Internationals have taken over a good few acres and may try and push their culture onto you...

Nah that is still American soil

 

[Victor Kelly]

Sweet jesus really?

I forgot I had mine in my pocket. The security guy saw it, asked to see it, asked to open it and could not figure out how. When I opened it he asked if I would mind checking it in. I agreed. Then picked it up on my way out. No muss, no fuss. I generally have a blade on me all the time.

I can make anything a weapon. Including plastic dining utensils, pens, belts, shoe laces. People need to stop this over sensitive non-sense that pervades our country right now. The way I see it, is that there are people that are pro-active and therefore self sufficient. And their are those that need a nanny to help them get through their pointless, fear filled lives.

 

[draybook]

Magoo's actually right here.

In the instant example, just because the Florida Supreme Court has reached one definition for "weapon" as applies to the statutory definition of aggravated robbery does not forestall the Walt Disney Company from applying its own rules of guest behavior that apply a different definition for the word "weapon".

Nor would that supreme court decision prevent you, if you owned a house in Florida, deciding that green baseball caps were, in your mind, "weapons," and forbidding anyone from bringing a green baseball cap into your house.

Tell that to the state of MS and the DeSoto County Sheriff's Office. And I did leave myself some leeway since I said that it wasn't always right that private property rights override state laws.