Lee
Adventurer
Which would be a bad idea.
A better idea would have been to give PI the DCA treatment. Keep the stuff that works, replace/refurb what doesn't.:shrug:
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A better idea would have been to give PI the DCA treatment. Keep the stuff that works, replace/refurb what doesn't.:shrug:
tirian
Well-Known Member
So Disney now has a set of methods for fixing their ghastly mistakes?
The DCA Method: Build it on the cheap, expect Guests to be too stupid to notice, then keep the stuff that works while replacing the stuff that doesn't.
The MK Method: Suspend regular maintenance so you can later shut things down for about 2 years at a time, and wait between 16 and 20 years for new E-tickets. Pretend that refurbs are new attractions.
The DAK Method: Allow one of your top Imagineers to create a highly immersive experience, but make sure that 80% of it is retail. Add one E-ticket and ignore its only special effect.
The HKDL Method: Build a tiny, underdeveloped park, but cover it with beautiful gardens so that people remark how pretty it is anyway.
The DHS Method: When a theme park doesn't have a master plan, just rename it.
The Epcot Method: Close down attractions and make them special events pavilions. Gut favorite attractions and pretend they were outdated. Wonder aloud whether or not Guests are smart enough to remember their ABCs.
The DL Method: Ignore one of your company's most significant historical landmarks; once everything is dilapidated and termite infested (see "Enchanted Tiki Room" for illustration), refurb the whole park except for its ugliest land.
The PI Method: When a few clubs are underperforming, shut down the entire entertainment district, including your profitable attractions, and pretend it's part of a master plan that doesn't exist. (See the DHS Method for what to do next.)
71jason
Well-Known Member
This is correct--the last two or three years you could buy a $10 ticket to any of the "dance" clubs (which included RnRBC), just not AC or CW.
That said--purely anecdotal evidence here, but every time I ended up in the Guest Services line on a Friday night, there was ALWAYS at least one person trying to buy tickets just for the AC, rarely anyone trying to buy any other single club tickets. So I definitely believe 1974 that all-club tickets were far more common.
BTW, even with the all-inclusive tickets, door hosts still kept count of guests for capacity purposes (and the last year or so would actually rescan passes at each club)--throw in bar sales, and there had to be a good picture of which clubs were thriving and which were failing. And even without that data, if you just walked in and looked around, it wouldn't have taken an MBA to figure out Motion, RnRBC and BET were kind of stale and needed a refurb.
Tickets were never re-scanned - the system was not set up for re-scans on the same day (it would automatically render the pass invalid once it was scanned that day). Occasionally, door hosts would ask to see the ticket again to confirm that underaged guests were not just swapping wristbands with those that were 21+, but that was it.
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
No, because you don't pay seperate admission to go on the ToT.
burninup4nick
New Member
ooh i hadnt heard about a bowling alley. that is like the only thing WDW doesnt have lol.
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
I love this post ... again, we need a WDWMAGIC Post of the Week category because this definitely should be repeated. I hope you don't mind but I am going to quote it on another Disney site because I believe it so perfectly sums up Disney right now.
What about the "Tokyo Disneyland Method?" Have another company pay for and own the park and have Disney Co. collect only royalties. Have this park set attendance records year after year and be applauded for its stellar service and cleanliness. Then have this company pay for a second park that blows guests' minds with its stunning, innovative, and immersive theming that shows what Imagineers can do if given a proper budget.
tirian
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tirian
Well-Known Member
Yes, but we're talking about how they are—to their credit—fixing previous mistakes. TDL isn't a mistake.
Figments Friend
Well-Known Member
Sigh....it pains me, it really does.
I was thinking, I'm gonna be up there in a couple weeks. Thinking about putting on my Save the Club shirt and just sitting on the front steps Fri. or Sat. night, looking miserable.
Maybe one of those nice managers in their PI button downs carrying trash grabbers will stop and chat. Give me a chance to vent...haven't vented at a Downtown Disney manager in a while. Doesn't help anything but makes me feel better.
Hey Lee....you might have company!
When i was there a few nights ago i walked by the AC and it was all lit up like Luna Park. No one was inside, but it sure looked welcoming. There were two dressed CM's out in front of the entrance steps talking to Guests...one looked like he may have been a player. My guess was they were informing passers by that the club was closed..even though it looked anything but. Either that, or is was a CM 'protest' to bring the club back..ha ha!
Anyway, i was surprised to see this. Made me wish the club was open. I always heard great things about it...sadly, i never had the opportunity to visit.
Exactly.
jt04
Well-Known Member
Perhaps one of you (or both) can explain what Monsters Inc has to do with Tomorrowland. I'm still trying to figure that out. I mean OLC has always been concerned with theme but I am missing the connection. :shrug::shrug::shrug::shrug:
Lee
Adventurer
Well, basically, as I understand it...Tomorrowland's name is no longer appropriate. A more apt title would be Sci-Fi land. The idea of theming-to or showcasing a realistic "tomorrow" is no longer the concept.
Every TL worldwide is morphing into a version of a Sci-Fi land in one way or another. That allows for the inclusion of Monster's Inc. and Stitch and Buzz.
Works for me, I guess. I'm all for moving more in a whimsical direction and away from the elusive "tomorrow."
Note: None of this is to be confused with Tokyo's never-built version of Tomorrowland, Eddie Soto's "Sci-Fi City". Now THAT would have been cool.
Every TL worldwide is morphing into a version of a Sci-Fi land in one way or another. That allows for the inclusion of Monster's Inc. and Stitch and Buzz.
Works for me, I guess. I'm all for moving more in a whimsical direction and away from the elusive "tomorrow."
Note: None of this is to be confused with Tokyo's never-built version of Tomorrowland, Eddie Soto's "Sci-Fi City". Now THAT would have been cool.
Spend enough money and you can rent the AC for a night for a convention. Don't know the rates, but understand AC, BET Soundstage, and Motions are all available until Sept or Oct.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Fantastic, sir.:sohappy: You just said what is EXACTLY happening in TWDC right now. And of course, the EPCOT one was the best.:lol:
Figments Friend
Well-Known Member
jt04
Well-Known Member
Interesting concept especially at WDW since there is a real Tomorrowland at Epcot in theory. So then the "Incredibles" E-ticket rumor makes more sense in that context as does Buzz and MI. Are there plans to change the name from TL to something else in the "future" ? (sorry)
I still think Stitch needs to go and Wall-E brought in. *fingers crossed*