Parking going up to $14

WDW1974

Well-Known Member
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Originally Posted by CBOMB
It's not about a mere price increase Jake. It's become about the constant price increases year after year. I just no longer feel that I am getting the quality experience I was before. I know there are many that feel differently, but that's just how I feel....

So you see Jake I thought long, and hard about WDW, and the little insignificant price increases they have once or twice or three times a year. I finally decided to speak with my wallet. I know it's of no significance to Disney, but it is to me.

Thank you for sharing. I understand your point and I can appreciate the way you handled it (not that you need my approval).

I hope you didn't think I was patronizing you with my example.

I think you and, if ever gets to the point for me, I are the people Disney does not want to lose (no offense to Evan). It's not a matter of not affording it, it's making the other choice. That is more damaging to the brand then simply being priced out.

And, I was gonna bow out of this discussion, is exactly my feelings. Disney hasn't priced me out of very much of late (not for lack of trying). I did spend 11 days in Orlando in July (am headed back in December and possibly this month) and just got back from visits to DLP and DL.

But their 'brand' doesn't hold the same value to me it once did. And while that should worry the hell out of them, since they hooked me as a child and have earned decades of loyalty and business from me, my family and friends, it doesn't. They'd rather have someone who doesn't understand how they operate as a business. They'd rather have someone who doesn't recall what Disney quality meant in 1979 or 1989 or 1999 vs. today.

Losing your most loyal (and forgiving) customers is bad business (I took enough business classes to know), but that doesn't seem to worry them one iota.

And it has nothing to do with a $2 parking increase that will never impact me. (I'll also suggest here the more Disney nickels and dimes guests, the more likely they are to do things that are in the gray moral area themselves, like parking at DD for free ... and taking buses to parks ... or parking at resorts again for free ... and I've heard folks are starting to do just that at places that aren't the typical monorail resorts used to it ... like at ASMu or OKW for example)

So, I think it's very simplistic to chalk up moves like these as purely what the market will bear ... sometimes the market bears plenty, but that doesn't reflect the bare facts and anger in the consumer.

Disney has never been cheap.

But it's also never been known for such gouging tactics as it now employs on everything from parking to dining to paying extra for holiday entertainment.
 

Gucci65

Well-Known Member
WDW1974 said:
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Disney has never been cheap

But it's also never been known for such gouging tactics as it now employs on everything from parking to dining to paying extra for holiday entertainment.
WDW1974 said:
BINGO - you've hit the nail on the head. Let's talk about paying extra for holiday entertainment shall we? The very first MVMCP was around $25 - it included the parade, the shows, the carolers, snow on MSUSA and...............you got a pin and a family photo in addition to your cookies and hot chocolate. Today the price per person to attend this event is around $55 and they no longer give you a pin or a family photo. Instead they give you a % off it your xmas party photopass pictures.:shrug: Definately a WTH moment.

On a side note: MONTY - I have told DD that the next 4 years will be filled with lots of hard work (as well as blood, sweat and tears - she wants to specialize in trauma), but at the end all will be rewarded as she will be able to afford to return to WDW as much as her little heart desires when she is making 70K a year at the ripe of age of 22.
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
Wow a response from Pumbas Nakasak that did not involve booze, references to female anatomy or potty ...er Im sorry...LOO humor. Im shocked!
Anywho...no...I dont find it significant especially when the price was so low in the first place. I pay 20 dollars to park in Detroit to see a ballgame, and thats PARKING IN DETROIT...this is Disney World.


Thank you for taking such careful note of my posts, its always nice to hear from a fan.

I paid $10 to park to watch the last U2 tour, Its less than $1 to park in town, and where my folks live its free but whats that got to do with Disney? Obviously you didnt like seeing your own figures presented back in cold stark percentage terms. Its like cryptonite for fhanny bhoys.
 

Tiggerish

Resident Redhead
Premium Member
What's 'good' is very relative in this 'new economy' of ours.

And what people view as 'the park has never been this crowded before' or 'it was packed, Disney sure isn't hurting' etc and reality are two entirely different things...So, Disney is getting bodies in the parks, but at what cost?

Just for the record, I wasn't looking at it from Disney's POV. My "I don't get it" was directed at the people who, as far as we can tell based on all of the reasons that Pumbas had enumerated, cannot afford to be there, and yet are, or seem to be. Doesn't say much for the common sense of the consumer.


But the nickel and diming has affected the amount of times I visit WDW, whether I stay on property and, especially, dining while there.

It seems we agree, as it has affected my travels there, too.


You can write letters to your heart's content, but I don't for a second believe Disney cares. They think if one person with high standards for what Disney quality and Disney value have been for decades decides to stop visiting, they can replace them with some rube who believes the Disney MAGIC marketing machine and has no idea they're getting a diminished product.


You're right, of course, and I agree. I was simply acknowledging that venting on these boards couldn't possibly accomplish anything. A letter sent to Guest Relations (or wherever) would at least be read (I hope) by "the Company". Didn't mean to imply that I was going to write one. :D I guess that makes me part of the problem.
 

MissM

Well-Known Member
Unless your conscience prevents it, you don't have to pay for parking... I was a Seasonal Passholder for 2 yrs before becoming an AP holder (got out there one day and didn't bother to look if it was a blacked out weekend) and never paid for parking. I just ended up spending that money I didn't pay for parking on something in the park! So they still got my money and everyone's happy!
If you pull up to the toll booth and show them a seasonal AP, they're still going to ask for parking. The tickets say seasonal right on them. How are you supposed to get around that fact?
 

MKCP 1985

Well-Known Member
I wonder how parking fees relate, percentage wise, to the cost of a one day pass when compared to 1971, 1982 (opening of Epcot Center and the addition of huge debt) 1984 (Disney fends off hostile takeover bid), etc. etc.

Yes, $14 per day is an unwelcome increase, just as are the yearly ticket price increases. But, at the end of the day, it takes your and my money to keep this place the top vacation destination that it is. :shrug:
 

Monty

Brilliant...and Canadian
In the Parks
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On a side note: MONTY - I have told DD that the next 4 years will be filled with lots of hard work (as well as blood, sweat and tears - she wants to specialize in trauma), but at the end all will be rewarded as she will be able to afford to return to WDW as much as her little heart desires when she is making 70K a year at the ripe of age of 22.
Good for her! Wish her my best in her studies. The world needs more dedicated medical professionals. I know I've benefited from being cared for by some of the best!

I hope she appreciates not only the hard work it'll have taken for her to get where she wants to be, but also the hard work, dedication and love it takes for a single parent to set her on the road to those opportunities as well. :sohappy:
 

yankspy

Well-Known Member
Just out of curiosity, what does uni charge for parking? Let it be known that I am not trying to bash Universal (I like the the place) I am just wondering if their rates are comparable.
 

Gucci65

Well-Known Member
Good for her! Wish her my best in her studies. The world needs more dedicated medical professionals. I know I've benefited from being cared for by some of the best!

I hope she appreciates not only the hard work it'll have taken for her to get where she wants to be, but also the hard work, dedication and love it takes for a single parent to set her on the road to those opportunities as well. :sohappy:

You are my favorite person today. Thank you!!:sohappy:
 

EpcotServo

Well-Known Member
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So this is where the Black Hole of WDW Magic is!

:eek:
 

rock_doctor

Member
Incidentally some of us CMs got a 4% raise on October 1st. :lookaroun
Barely cost of living increase. At least they are trying to hold churn of employees in check.

They are just trying to entice people to stay at Disney rather then stay outside or drive in for the day.
 

JimboJones123

Well-Known Member
Each year, I expect that my trip will cost about $100 more than the previous year. Between tix prices, hotel prices, parking, increased cost of food, and anything else that may be different.

Disney has shown guests to expect this by changing the $1500 for four to $1600 for four the second year of the campaign.

If Disney prices you out -- You cannot afford to go.

Like I posted in a previous thread, I would rather prices go up 25% across the board and have 25% less visitors.

Disney would prefer this too. Guest satisfaction would be MUCH higher with lower crowds. If they cut prices by 25% and visitors go up by 25%, Disney loses because guests will be more dissatisfied with their overall experience and may not come back.

I would rather have Disney be a more elite experience that requires a little more investment from the customers so they appreciate what they are getting and so they can have more individual attention.

Disney does not want you to pay the $14.
They WANT you to have the FREE parking.
Part of the price increase is about helping guests understand that this fee is something that they have the potential not to pay.
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
Each year, I expect that my trip will cost about $100 more than the previous year. Between tix prices, hotel prices, parking, increased cost of food, and anything else that may be different.

Disney has shown guests to expect this by changing the $1500 for four to $1600 for four the second year of the campaign.

If Disney prices you out -- You cannot afford to go.

Like I posted in a previous thread, I would rather prices go up 25% across the board and have 25% less visitors.

Disney would prefer this too. Guest satisfaction would be MUCH higher with lower crowds. If they cut prices by 25% and visitors go up by 25%, Disney loses because guests will be more dissatisfied with their overall experience and may not come back.

I would rather have Disney be a more elite experience that requires a little more investment from the customers so they appreciate what they are getting and so they can have more individual attention.

Disney does not want you to pay the $14.
They WANT you to have the FREE parking.
Part of the price increase is about helping guests understand that this fee is something that they have the potential not to pay.

The Mouse is Soooo benevolent after all.

[FONT=&quot]But I suggest your post reflects more about your personal social attitudes than any of the issues raised throughout the thread. You remind me of the half cut women I heard on the dock of the Wilderness Lodge complaining loudly about having to share a boat "with those sort of people".[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Being happy at being overcharged for declining service and quality isnt elite, its just a bit stupid. And why do those prone to defend the mouse always trot out the lines about "no one has a right to go" etc when nowhere in the thread has anyone alluded to such a thing.[/FONT]
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MousDad

New Member
Like I posted in a previous thread, I would rather prices go up 25% across the board and have 25% less visitors.

Disney would prefer this too.

At a resort that depends entirely on food and merchandise sales as to whether they turn a profit or not? I don't think so. They want to pack the place to the rafters. 366 days a year.
 

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