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Out of control WDW ticket prices
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networkpro
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I'd agree, the Disney pricepoint and remoteness does tend to thin the herd. Six Flags (at least some of them) targets a different demographic.
psukardi
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First time I've ever heard of that. Vs the myriad of times somethings happened at the Six Flags in Maryland or Jersey.
3WaltFans
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MyMagic+ originally was supposed to cost about $800M. Adjusted for inflation, that's about $330M in 1982 dollars. That's how much Disney intended to spend for MyMagic+.
For comparison, a much smaller Disney company spent $1.9B to build EPCOT. Disney then proceeded to build another theme park, a water park, an entertainment district, along with adding numerous attractions and other forms of entertainment that same decade.
In 1982, the Entertainment & Recreation segment (encompassing the theme parks) profits were $130M. (By the way, profits from the rest of Disney were about $23M. Disney's financial problem wasn't with its parks and resorts; it was everywhere else within the company.)
In 2013, Parks & Resorts profits were $2.2B, about $900M in 1982 dollars.
The 1980s and 1990s gave us EPCOT, Disney-MGM Studios, Disney's Animal Kingdom, Typhoon Lagoon, Blizzard Beach, DisneyQuest, Pleasure Island and numerous popular attractions such as Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, Splash Mountain, Tower of Terror, Rock n' Roller Coaster, Star Tours, and Test Track.
All at a time when ticket prices tracked closely to the CPI.
The 2010s gave us New Fantasyland (about $180M in 1982 dollars), MyMagic+ ($330M), and DAK expansions including Pandora (estimated to be $800M, about $330M in 1982 dollars).
Today's investments pale in comparison to the 1980s and 1990s.
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MY_NAME_STITCH
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Quote="psukardi, post: 5913002, member: 84592"]Who says they have to?[/quote]
You're right. We have to remember that Disney is a major corporation with shareholders to please. They are lucky to have a cash cow like the parks in their portfolio. They have no obligation to us to invest more money in the parks or to hold the line on ticket prices.
You're right. We have to remember that Disney is a major corporation with shareholders to please. They are lucky to have a cash cow like the parks in their portfolio. They have no obligation to us to invest more money in the parks or to hold the line on ticket prices.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
I think THIS year will be the year we break the $100 barrier, The Street is very concerned about the NGE spending and a price increase in the face of this will go well with the street.
No one is comparing WDW to Six Flags.
However, since you brought it up ...
My local Six Flags charges $55 for a season pass.
Universal charges $280 for an out-of-state Annual Pass.
WDW charges $609.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
And which of them are INVESTING in their parks, Seems that both Six Flags and UNI are investing heavily systemwide while Disney is increasing prices and decreasing investment. Heck even Great America in San Jose is making investments and they are only open 5 months per year!
discos
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How many months is an operating season for a six flags park? My local cedar fair park costs about $80 for a season pass but it's only opened everyday for 3 months and just weekends in May, sept and October. So yea I expect it tobe the price it is given the season and what they offer: it's not disney.
If you wanted to compare UNI and a cedar fair or six flags park I think its more it's more comparable to an annual pass price for universal, but still universal has much better theming, attractions and also has two parks.
But comparing the six flags or cedar fair park to disney is like comparing apples to oranges: disney has 4 parks, much more theming, more attractions, more shows, just a lot more to offer in whole than any seasonal park. If you break down the annual pass price per day it's less than 2 bucks a day for 4 parks. I would say if uni had two more parks then you'd see AP prices around the $550 mark. So when you really look at all the factors I would say all the prices are competitive when comparing what each offers.
If you wanted to compare UNI and a cedar fair or six flags park I think its more it's more comparable to an annual pass price for universal, but still universal has much better theming, attractions and also has two parks.
But comparing the six flags or cedar fair park to disney is like comparing apples to oranges: disney has 4 parks, much more theming, more attractions, more shows, just a lot more to offer in whole than any seasonal park. If you break down the annual pass price per day it's less than 2 bucks a day for 4 parks. I would say if uni had two more parks then you'd see AP prices around the $550 mark. So when you really look at all the factors I would say all the prices are competitive when comparing what each offers.
draybook
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Believe it or not, you can please shareholders while putting out a superior product......I'm looking at you Apple.....
TubaGeek
God bless the "Ignore" button.
Do you disagree?
lazyboy97o
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Oddly enough, Tim Cook is starting to get crap for sticking to the strategy that has made them so insanely profitable.
Disvillain63
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I'd still pay and do pay WDW prices, because the environment of the parks/resort is worth it to me. $55 at Six Flags is not a bargain when the environment is not what I want to expose my family too. We went to Uni and didn't enjoy it. Again, like I said, it's a personal choice of what I want to do with my money.
psukardi
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Ya? You mean by charging out the wazoo for their products? A 13" Mac Book Pro starts at roughly $1300 for a bare-bones system. You could get the same Windows Based laptop for several hundred dollars less. Maybe Disney is doing the same thing. Having a nice product at a price-point that matches what you get
psukardi
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What don't you want to expose your family to? I love how everyone is tip-toeing around it in fear of being racially insensitive. Just say it and get out of your system.
I'm looking at Disney Cruise Line.
Or Tokyo Disneyland.
Or even the new and improved Disneyland Resort.
Other parts of Disney's Parks & Resorts segment provide a superior product.
Corporate Disney simply chooses not to anymore at Walt Disney World.
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disneyflush
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People are speaking more about the class of the guests and less about their skin color from what I can tell.