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Out of control WDW ticket prices
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3WaltFans
Well-Known Member
I am tired of the Uni's lecturing WDW fans. It's your opinion, it does not make it gospel. Geez
Mouse_Trap
Well-Known Member
hmmm and if Disney followed their model, a day ticket would be $400, rides would be extra and customer service either in denial or non existent about their flaws. To top it all, you would also be forced into not visiting any other parks on the same year
Mouse_Trap
Well-Known Member
Domestic WDW attendance has been declining for years.
WDW has been filling in the gap by offering some outstanding discounts to international guests.
Just offer us those discounts our brethren in the U.K. and Brazil receive and I think a lot less of us would be complaining about prices.
Not sure about that to be honest, we get a great deal on a 21 day unlimited ticket, but then who can go for 21 days? The other tickets are comparably priced.
Florida is a huge market from the UK, iirc its about 600,000 annually. However, in the US scale of things it's not so big. Market share to Florida though has grown significantly in the last 10-15 years.
Today's prices - we only get offered 7/14/21 day tickets here, although they are currently offering 9 days for the same price as 7.
The US price for a 10 day ticket is $450 with tax, 9 day $440 and the 7 day $418.
For the closest comparison I added on the waterparks and hopper options
UK prices always include tax, I have used today's rate 1.59 to convert.
7 $442 (£278)
9 $442 (£278)
14 $453 (£285)
21 $485 (£305)
jlsHouston
Well-Known Member
I wish I could get some 21 day tickets for 500 bucks to use every year.....
DVCOwner
A Long Time DVC Member
I will give you credit that you are not always negative, but you sure try to paint things in a bad light.
draybook
Well-Known Member
No, I'm a realist. I will point out the negative, no matter how much I love the product, company, etc. etc..
flynnibus
Premium Member
Real love includes being able to be honest with each other. So if WDW f's up.. I can tell them like it is and not be fawning to the point of believing they can do no wrong. When you are in that state, you are blinded and just following along.
If you can't stop visiting or going at any point... does that mean you really are going voluntarily?
If you can't stop visiting or going at any point... does that mean you really are going voluntarily?
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
seems more related to addiction at that point than actually "voluntarily".
the same would be said in the inverse way.
We have not been to Universal, so I can't speak about their parks. However, we went to DL in January and the experience was like WDW used to be.
There were horse drawn trolleys on Main Street and a barbershop quartet. The parks were quite crowded, but were spotlessly clean. In all the rides we went on, not a one broke down while we were on it.
The new attractions were great. We loved Carsland. The racing ride was fun and the Carsland theming was extensive and made us smile. Characters were available throughout the park for autographs and photos. No, they were not behind closed doors.
There were horse drawn trolleys on Main Street and a barbershop quartet. The parks were quite crowded, but were spotlessly clean. In all the rides we went on, not a one broke down while we were on it.
The new attractions were great. We loved Carsland. The racing ride was fun and the Carsland theming was extensive and made us smile. Characters were available throughout the park for autographs and photos. No, they were not behind closed doors.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
Whilst I do agree that Disneyland very much has the "feel" of the old WDW...the things you listed really aren't all that uncommon at WDW.
The horse drawn trolley comes out regularly. The motor powered vehicles are out early in the morning. The park is clean at WDW. The rides rarely break down (most common "break downs" are when the ride is stopped for ADA access, which means you get a pause in the ride as they load).
Carsland is truely wonderful, but RSR isn't known for having the best ride system, and they have to cycle and re-calibrate it when things go wrong (notice empty cars zooming around?). Odd, since really it's not much more than a skinned Test Track 2.0.
The characters are the one thing you mentioned, they they tend to walk around more and interact more, but...they still have meet and greets there. And, as much as I dislike that they took away another classic ride for a Meet and Greet at WDW, as a parent...the "Character Spot" concept (which started at EPCOT and Hollywood Studios) is actually a pretty good one in the Florida Heat (something that both the face/costume characters and the guests don't have as much an issue with in Anaheim weather).
We were at WDW last August. There were no horses or trolleys. Every single ride that we went on broke down, some for considerable periods. The parks were quite dirty and the condition of the monorail was dreadful. It also broke down when we were on it and the AC in our car was broken.
We are long time disney fans and DVC members. Our vacation last August was so bad that we cancelled our projected December trip and went to DL instead.
We are returning to WDW in May and I am hoping for a better experience. We are not anti-Disney or even Universal fans. However, the differences between WDW and DL were striking.
We are long time disney fans and DVC members. Our vacation last August was so bad that we cancelled our projected December trip and went to DL instead.
We are returning to WDW in May and I am hoping for a better experience. We are not anti-Disney or even Universal fans. However, the differences between WDW and DL were striking.
I can live with the ticket prices, but what kills me is the price for food. There is absolutely no reason why the quick service food at Disney is so expensive. A meal of chicken nuggets and pizza (with drinks) for 5 people shouldn't equal $80 like it did when I was there in January.
Seriously, I think that is what would kill Walt. He would probably cringe at the fact that it is a small investment to eat at the parks. Yes, I know you can bring your own food or don't have to eat at the parks, but for those who do eat in the park, it is too outrageously priced for what you get.
Seriously, I think that is what would kill Walt. He would probably cringe at the fact that it is a small investment to eat at the parks. Yes, I know you can bring your own food or don't have to eat at the parks, but for those who do eat in the park, it is too outrageously priced for what you get.
Disneyhead'71
Well-Known Member
The prices of hotels, food & beverage, and admission media are all part of Iger's implementation of the concept of "price leveraging". And one of the key principles of price leveraging is to raise prices until it starts to hurt the company.
I think we may be very close to that point.
I think we may be very close to that point.
I don't think that the prices have had an impact yet. When we cancelled our December trip, there were probably other families willing to take our place.
Unless you are a long time disney fan and remember how good the parks used to be, the condition of the parks seems normal. Expectations have been lowered.
I do think that the current policies of charge more and deliver less will eventually impact attendance and the public's perception of Disney. For ourselves, I believe we will be going less. Currently we have DVC APs. We are questioning whether to renew them when they expire. Much will depend on what happens on our May vacation. We are giving disney another chance in case our bad August trip was a fluke.
Unless you are a long time disney fan and remember how good the parks used to be, the condition of the parks seems normal. Expectations have been lowered.
I do think that the current policies of charge more and deliver less will eventually impact attendance and the public's perception of Disney. For ourselves, I believe we will be going less. Currently we have DVC APs. We are questioning whether to renew them when they expire. Much will depend on what happens on our May vacation. We are giving disney another chance in case our bad August trip was a fluke.
Goofyernmost
Well-Known Member
Have they been lowered by the public at large? I don't think so. They have no basis of comparison so the can only expect what they see. If they are happy with what they see, then that is the set point for their expectations. You are still hard pressed to find much of anything, outside of a Disney Park, that is in that good condition and emotional impact.
I just completed my 43rd trip to WDW starting in 1983. Personally, with the exception of live shows (and there still seems to be a lot of those, if you count the castle shows, and a few closed (permanently) attractions, I see a park that is even brighter and in great condition. I have been blessed that with all those trips and all those rides I have never experienced a true breakdown. I figured out early on, mostly because I escorted many handicapped (excuse me, challenged) individuals and I always knew that the brief ride stoppage was for them and not a breakdown. Many don't know that and immediately call it a breakdown, when it is indeed just normal operation.
Could they be doing better? Based on my past experience, they sure could, however, they still offer a lot for the money realistically. Where else can you find that much entertainment for that many consecutive hours for that price? (even if you payed the one day rate?) Entertainment venues are not shackled by inflation rates and their expenses are not controlled by what would normally be thought of as inflation related. The cost of admission has not yet reached the amount of money that millions of people are obviously willing to pay, therefore it is not overpriced in the real sense of the word. If you take it from the viewpoint of those that cannot afford it. Well, I can't afford a Ferrari, but, I sure would like to have one. Fortunately, for both of us, our ability to survive life and be happy doesn't hinge on a visit to a theme park or a Ferrari. It is a luxury! Luxury items are not influenced by "the norm". They are exceptional and unique and only reach their limit when people stop paying them to be there. Supply and Demand still rules.
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TubaGeek
God bless the "Ignore" button.
I wish Epcot's Character Spot had kept the open windows instead of the dual-room setup. They were in a controlled environment, but were still visible from outside.
ddbowdoin
Well-Known Member
I think a lot of people don't realize this... but Disney is
and you expect all of its amenities for ...
still a car, still gets you from A to B... but Disney isn't your local attraction, which is what all of our local experiences are... Six Flags, etc etc etc.
Disney is a luxury experience. It isn't meant to be affordable.
and you expect all of its amenities for ...
still a car, still gets you from A to B... but Disney isn't your local attraction, which is what all of our local experiences are... Six Flags, etc etc etc.
Disney is a luxury experience. It isn't meant to be affordable.
BiffyClyro
Well-Known Member
It's disgusting and I don't know how anyone can defend it. It cost the same amount for a 2 week unlimited universal ticket than a one day disney ticket. It's disgusting, a rip-off and they are isolating many families.
flynnibus
Premium Member
You think this is a 'luxury experience'?
In your car analogy... Disney is charging BMW prices and delivering Hyundai product.
Disney is a PREMIUM product (and not a product sold on price alone..) not a Luxury product. Not even in areas where they are still doing well.. like DCL.
No 'luxury' hotel contains 2k-3k rooms or luxury experience includes being packed like sardines in public places