myself, i look forward to going , so i save up and don't mind the prices at all
if you don't like it or think it is too expensive, by all means stay home, 1 less person in line complaining. its a vacation resort, not a charity!!
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if you don't like it or think it is too expensive, by all means stay home, 1 less person in line complaining. its a vacation resort, not a charity!!
Scar Junior
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Why do you care about ze mouse? Do you know him? Does he call you at home? Do you have a mouse ears?! To train ze mouse you must zink like ze mouse! You must be getting inside ze mouse's head und communicating. I am saying to Mickey, "Kay kay kay kay?" und he is saying "Kay kay" und he is up on ze tail "Eeeeeeeeee!" und you can quote him!
- Ace Ventura, Mouse Detective
ClemsonTigger
Naturally Grumpy
First let me agree with you on something....WDW or Disney don't love me...and I don't expect them to, and I don't ever recall them professing their love. Government doesn't love me (although the DO say that they do), my employer doesn't love me. The simple fact that you are missing is that I do love Disney. There is no better entertainment or vacation value that I have found.
Bruce Williams takes a very selfish approach. Have you ever heard the term unconditional (not that I would use it in regard to Disney). Do I expect my children to love me as I do them? Do I have love and care for those that suffer like in New Orleans and other world disasters....yes. If my wife or neighbor does not show affection in the way I expect, do I return the slight?
As greedy corporate parasites...I still enjoy going to a place where CM's go out of their way to provide personal attention above and beyond.
I have never been to a Disney park when there hasn't been at least one special interaction with a CM. And to avoid taking your self-centered approach, if it is not with me....I take great pleasure in seeing CM interactions with dozens if not hundreds of others (not an exaggeration) in any given day. Call it random acts of kindness, call it magic.
But like anything else, you have to open your eyes and be willing to see it. Or you can spend your day looking for litter and peeling paint. :brick:
Clearly you don't have agreement with your opinion here (amongst the foolish Disney lovers). As you have said, Disney is not going to call you up and offer a free vacation because they feel for you. It seems you now have lots of extra money to enjoy a better vacation, I wish you luck.
JimboJones123
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Scar Junior
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Wow..... honestly, that was very well said. Will you be my lawyer?
Nemo14
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I took a couple of days off from this thread so I could try to sort out my feelings about this whole thing. Yes, it's only $4. But I think the thing that has bothered me most about this whole raising the prices thing is the message it conveys. The whole attitude seems to be that, "Yes, the theme parks are back to their pre-9/11 levels of activity, yes, Disney has made some major $$$ with movies lately, so what better time to take advantage of that and charge everyone just a little more $$? And while we're at it, let's make it ridiculously more desirable to spend more time in the parks, or better yet to stay right within the confines of Disney property, so we can charge even more $$ for "extras" And suppose the average working Joe has only one week to vacation with his family? Then visiting for only one day, and riding a few favorites from more than one park is entirely out of the question! Who needs them anyway?"
I totally understand that from a business point of view this attitude makes a lot of sense, but as far as its impact on my family, and certainly plenty of others, it has cnaged our vacation plans and our opinion about corporate Disney. JMHO
I totally understand that from a business point of view this attitude makes a lot of sense, but as far as its impact on my family, and certainly plenty of others, it has cnaged our vacation plans and our opinion about corporate Disney. JMHO
ClemsonTigger
Naturally Grumpy
A bit of a thread drift...but with your clear feelings about the horrible Mouse House....why would you consider working for such a monster...and for a modest wage?
Why consider living near a city (Orlando) as poorly run as the theme parks near it?
What is it you do find acceptable? :zipit:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showpost.php?p=1739430&postcount=1
Why consider living near a city (Orlando) as poorly run as the theme parks near it?
What is it you do find acceptable? :zipit:
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/showpost.php?p=1739430&postcount=1
maleficent_man
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You'll forgive me...or not, I don't care either way...but if a $4 dollar rise in the price of a one-day ticket means that you won't be at WDW then I wish they'd done it sooner.
There are lots of special things that CM's do, in the parks, in the hotels....everywhere at WDW - that's what sets it apart.
The whole scenario is about value for money - people will pay for what they consider to be 'value for money' - and for me, it is second to none in this respect.....by quite some way! Kindly don't have a go at me for defending what me and others percieve.
I don't defend Disney because I think they love me....how ridiculous a statement is that?! I defend them on this issue cause I think it's reasonable - to then come on here and have a go at people for stating their support when you don't agree with it is ridiculous...so I'll respond by doing the same to you.
JimboJones123
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I would easily pay $100 a day. I wouldn't buy an 11 day ticket and would be much more selective with my time and only get a 3/4 day pass, but even $100 a day is AWESOME VALUE. They would have to turn Bay Lake into a parking lot though, I couldn't handle the Monorail or Ferry wait at that price. But if you are buying more than a 6 day pass, I believe its only a buck more for each extra day up to 10. What's wrong with a dollar a day for four more days?
sbkline
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Except that when you spend "a few" days at the park, the per day amount drops significantly.
CJR
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Here's a question for you, is the value of a Disney vacation going up or down? Keep in mind, I'm not asking if the parks are better, I'm asking is the value better? You know when you paid $40 for about 10% than what you have now. I think it's pretty clear. Disney is outpricing itself and as I said before this $4 is nothing. However, what about when they raise it $3 in January and then another $6 next August. It's only $6 more right?
Before you know it, you'll be paying $100 for a one day ticket and $500 for a five day pass. I'm not saying by supporting Disney your wrong, I support Disney. What I am saying is it's kind of dumb to say "I will give you more money when your still charging me $5 less." I mean sure, the value is still good, but wouldn't you want to pay less? For example, if Disney were to say you can pay $50 or $60 to get in the park and let you choose, what would you pick? If it's not the lower of the two, you're not a very good with finances. My point, just like Disney each individual is trying to get the best deal they can. Disney doesn't like it when their expenses rise, why would they? We don't like it when our expenses rise either and so we try to keep the prices as low as they possibly can be. Those of you who want them as high as they can be, all I can say to that is, that's just weird.
Here's a good question, if you could price your Disney Vacation and pay Disney whatever you wanted to get into the parks, what would you choose? Would you still pay $70 a day or whatever the new cost is for a park hopper or would it be lower. If it's lower than $70 then you should be a little upset about the increase too. Sorry for boasting, but I'm just confused as to why people would want to pay more for something when they could have more money in their pockets, not a good personal busness decision on their part.
Before you know it, you'll be paying $100 for a one day ticket and $500 for a five day pass. I'm not saying by supporting Disney your wrong, I support Disney. What I am saying is it's kind of dumb to say "I will give you more money when your still charging me $5 less." I mean sure, the value is still good, but wouldn't you want to pay less? For example, if Disney were to say you can pay $50 or $60 to get in the park and let you choose, what would you pick? If it's not the lower of the two, you're not a very good with finances. My point, just like Disney each individual is trying to get the best deal they can. Disney doesn't like it when their expenses rise, why would they? We don't like it when our expenses rise either and so we try to keep the prices as low as they possibly can be. Those of you who want them as high as they can be, all I can say to that is, that's just weird.
Here's a good question, if you could price your Disney Vacation and pay Disney whatever you wanted to get into the parks, what would you choose? Would you still pay $70 a day or whatever the new cost is for a park hopper or would it be lower. If it's lower than $70 then you should be a little upset about the increase too. Sorry for boasting, but I'm just confused as to why people would want to pay more for something when they could have more money in their pockets, not a good personal busness decision on their part.
sbkline
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So that is the only thing free at Disney. So what? Are you used to walking into Walmart or Six Flags, or any other business and just getting things for free? Of course things aren't free. You try opening a business and giving away lots of free things and see how long you last. You have bills to pay. You have employees to pay. And now, you're just giving away things for free, so where is the revenue coming from to fund this place of yours? Without revenue, you can't pay the bills and you have to close down and now no one can enjoy your establishment. WDW has tremendous bills to pay. They have to pay food costs for all the food that they serve in their parks. They have to pay all those thousands of CMs. They have to pay for gas to drive those buses around all day. They have to pay energy bills to keep the lights on and the rides running. And you're complaining that little plastic hats are the only things that are free? Yes, WDW is there to provide entertainment and a good time. But they can't do that for free, or else they wouldn't have the money to provide the service. It's a fact of life that you have to pay for things, or else the provider has no money with which to foot the bill of providing the service he's giving to you. Even charities have to have money. But since their services are free, they require the support of generous donors to pay the bills. Nothing is free.
No matter how much any business wants to please the customers, the ultimate bottom line goal is they want those customers back to spend more money. Even when a store runs a sale, they are not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts because they want to be nice. There has been a meeting somewhere in which the execs did the math and figured that if they cut $2.00 of the price of one thing, then more customers would come in to buy that product and then buy something else while they were there. And, of course, since there is always markup on a product (hence the reason why the store makes a profit on a sale instead of breaking even), they can take some money off and still have enough markup to make a profit, as well as knowing that most people will buy more stuff while they are at it. Either that, or it is an old model that they are putting on clearance and taking a loss on, so as to lose a little money by selling it as opposed to a total loss by not selling it. So, the bottom line is profit. With all businessess. I don't know why you expect WDW to be any different.
brich
New Member
I must say I'm slightly perplexed at this statement. I can see this being said in many threads around here but the defenders of Disney here are in support of a price increase which effects them, as defenders of Disney Love. The people siding with Disney Love are the one proclaiming in a round about way that yes, "THEY LOVE YOUR MONEY".... Sorry, just confused with your post. And yes, at times I'm easily confused... :hammer:
brich
New Member
Now, now.... 2 wrongs don't make a right.... :wave:
Calling someone out for calling you out... nice. :drevil:
sbkline
Well-Known Member
Let me answer the question with an example. If a carpenter made you a nice dresser out of fine oak and then told you that you could buy it for whatever amount you wanted, what would you do? You know that the wood cost him, say, $400. Would you take advantage of his generosity and offer him ten bucks? I would think that is kind of greedy and dishonest. Or would you at least offer to buy it at cost? Myself, I don't want to be stiffed, but I don't want to stiff anyone else either. I want to pay a fair price, realizing that the person is entitled to be reimbursed for the cost of the product and is also entitled to a little bit of profit.
Now I have no idea what Disney's operating costs are or what kind of revenue they need to offset the costs and make a reasonable profit. But while paying alot less sounds nice, is it really fair to pay them $40 for a one day ticket if it costs them $80 a day per person to run the park? While they could certainly afford to offer such deals now and then as an incentive to get more customers in and thereby increase sales in the gift shops and restaurants, Disney can't afford to do that on a regular basis anymore than any other business can. Somewhere along the line, there would come a point at which they are now losing money. And, eventually, if they don't raise prices back to start making a profit again, they are going to continue to lose money and eventually, there might come a year when you are stuck spending your vacation watching Dr Phil all week on TV instead of going to WDW, because their ideal ticket prices were losing them too much money and they had to close down.
JimboJones123
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On a different thread, somebody just paid $4000 for the same vacation as me. Mine cost $1600. We are staying at different resorts. All guests have different price points. If you want it for less, it's even cheaper at the campgrounds. If you can't afford to go, don't. We took a 4 day trip last decmber, and it cost $1400. At that point we decided that we would only go for long trips. That's why we are going for the 11 days this time. That's what Disney wants, and they are rewarding us for it. It's only $200 more for 7 more days. GO DISNEY! For Tix/room/dining that's less then $30 more a day. If you could extend MYW tix for 14 days, sure, I'd be there 2 weeks!
JimboJones123
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Damn them all!
bjlc57
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I do find it amazing..
that people here are defending the price increase.. Just like some one else said, you raise it $4 now, another $6 in January.. $4 in June or July.. and soon it will be at $100 per day.. and some of you want THIS...
YES RAISE THE PRICE.. Let me pay more.. and like some one else said, Don't come because you must be one of the complainers.. ( I am not.. )
In fact, since the place opened in 71 I have never had a bad day at Disney.. not one.. not at all. In fact WDW is extremely special to me..
so special that it hurts when they price themselves out of my range..
and they are doing so.. and my neighbors price range, and some of your neighbors price range..
But you say charge us more..
But Disney is already charging you more, and you like sheep, LOVE IT..
PLEASE WDW CHARGE US EXTRA FOR TICKETS THAT WE DON'T or CAN'T USE on THIS TRIP.. Never mind that you already have our money..and have it in the BANK MAKING INTEREST ON IT.... CHARGE US MORE MONEY so we can still use the tickets.. and give you more money..
How blind is this? What is going to happen, when your new child is born.. are you willing to keep working extra and GIVE UP TIME WITH YOUR NEW CHILD JUST TO GO TO DISNEY? is that the correct priority of life? or are you willing to buy less for your child, just so you can go to DISNEY? Why have you been staying off base? why not GIVE DISNEY ALL OF YOUR MONEY.. Pay for the prime hotels.. Let them charge you full price and ask if you can pay more..
Think about this.. PLEASE WDW charge us more.. We WANT TO PAY MORE..
how do you defend this attitude? its nuts.. its like going to buy a car, not ask for any discount, ask to pay the highest interest possible and refuse the warrenty.. PLEASE GM charge us more.. and then give the dealer a tip as you leave.. but tell me that you love me..
sorry kids. I truly don't understand you..
I really like WDW.. I really do.. BUT I dont have to love their pricing.. and I am not going to defend it going up.. in fact I protest it.. because its pricing family's out of the equation..
that people here are defending the price increase.. Just like some one else said, you raise it $4 now, another $6 in January.. $4 in June or July.. and soon it will be at $100 per day.. and some of you want THIS...
YES RAISE THE PRICE.. Let me pay more.. and like some one else said, Don't come because you must be one of the complainers.. ( I am not.. )
In fact, since the place opened in 71 I have never had a bad day at Disney.. not one.. not at all. In fact WDW is extremely special to me..
so special that it hurts when they price themselves out of my range..
and they are doing so.. and my neighbors price range, and some of your neighbors price range..
But you say charge us more..
But Disney is already charging you more, and you like sheep, LOVE IT..
PLEASE WDW CHARGE US EXTRA FOR TICKETS THAT WE DON'T or CAN'T USE on THIS TRIP.. Never mind that you already have our money..and have it in the BANK MAKING INTEREST ON IT.... CHARGE US MORE MONEY so we can still use the tickets.. and give you more money..
How blind is this? What is going to happen, when your new child is born.. are you willing to keep working extra and GIVE UP TIME WITH YOUR NEW CHILD JUST TO GO TO DISNEY? is that the correct priority of life? or are you willing to buy less for your child, just so you can go to DISNEY? Why have you been staying off base? why not GIVE DISNEY ALL OF YOUR MONEY.. Pay for the prime hotels.. Let them charge you full price and ask if you can pay more..
Think about this.. PLEASE WDW charge us more.. We WANT TO PAY MORE..
how do you defend this attitude? its nuts.. its like going to buy a car, not ask for any discount, ask to pay the highest interest possible and refuse the warrenty.. PLEASE GM charge us more.. and then give the dealer a tip as you leave.. but tell me that you love me..
sorry kids. I truly don't understand you..
I really like WDW.. I really do.. BUT I dont have to love their pricing.. and I am not going to defend it going up.. in fact I protest it.. because its pricing family's out of the equation..
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