Official D23 Thread

jakeman

Well-Known Member
Did you hear that he had to be given a tour of Disneyland Park so he doesn't sound stupid during the Expo?

You mean this:

http://miceage.micechat.com/

Editor's Note 9/4: Captain EO Update - Honey I Shrunk The Audience will now be closed next week, Tues thru Thurs. WDI will be installing the Captain EO special effects to prepare the theater for Thur's private performance of the old show for Jay Rasulo and other bigwigs in Anaheim for the D23 Expo. Assuming Rasulo can find Tomorrowland (turn right in front of the castle) and no one in the audience has any objections to the show, Rasulo should then announce EO's January return during his Expo presentation on the 12th. - Al Lutz

Hmm interesting....
I'm not sure that is the same thing.
 

TalkingHead

Well-Known Member
In anticipation for D23 Disney released the new trailer for "The Princess and the Frog" and i gotta say the new trailer is pretty awful. It's being marketed towards the nickelodean crowd it seems and doesn't have the classyness of the 2nd golden age films (Aladdin, Little Mermaid, Beauty Beast, Lion King). I hope this is just a case of bad marketing.

I will be at the Frog panel on Sunday so hopefully they can win me over with better footage.

To be fair, the marketing for Bolt made the movie look lame and just a vehicle for Travolta/Hannah Montanna but the movie was suprisingly good.

I hope they have a better marketing strategy for Rapunzel

Wouldn't be a modern-day Disney movie without a fart joke. What surprises me is the fart joke is, like, almost at the beginning of the trailer. Is that the best way to announce Disney's triumphant return to hand-drawn animation?

I'm skeptical. This looks a little derivative. Like they took the setting of the Rescuers, the exoticism of Aladdin, the tired zany sidekicks from the last dozen Disney movies, and added a black princess to appeal to a "new" audience.

In contrast, it's easy to see why Pinocchio is considered a masterpiece.
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
I agree. I have no idea how much a ticket to ComicCon in San Diego costs, or the BlizCon here in Anaheim costs. But things like the OC Auto Show are just 10 bucks, and you get a free year subscription to Motor Trend with your ticket.

37 dollars per day for D23 Expo is steep. Or over a hundred dollars for all four days, plus your 75 dollar year membership dues for D23.

It looks like they were trying to make a profit off this D23 Expo thing, which if true will be the downfall of the entire model for this event and concept.

Sad to think this may be a one-year only thing we'll never see the likes of again anytime soon. At best, maybe it will return in 2011 or 2012 on a much smaller and cheaper scale?

It all makes me look forward to my visit on Friday even more. I may go again on Sunday, just for kicks if its as good as it looks.

The stupid thing is that they expected this to be a blowout right out of the box, in a steep recession no less. You would think they would realize they need at least one or even two years to build a strong buzz so that people in Ohio or England realize they simply have to get to Anaheim next September for the next D23 Expo. That's how you build a concept like D23 Expo.

ComicCon didn't start out HUGE. It started as a little thing in a hotel basement and grew over the years to the major pop culture event it is now. Burbank should at least give D23 Expo two or three years to establish itself and make people realize they need to budget and plan a trip to Anaheim the following year. We all don't live on expense accounts that someone else pays for. Anyone outside of SoCal will need to budget and plan a specific trip to Anaheim for D23 Expo in future years, if it happens in future years.
Exactly! Thanks for putting it so well.

Honestly, I've been saying that cost is D23's biggest mistake. It's a AWESOME concept, it has GREAT marketing, but for some, where is the value? Who can spend all this money at a time like this? The fact that you have to pay to get in daily, just makes it look like Disney wants to get their buck out of you.

Of course, I do realize that it's a business, and much (experience wise) is being offered here, but the opinion stands.
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Posts like these make me want to die.:dazzle::lookaroun


(Joking, joking...;) )
 

SirGoofy

Member
Color me unimpressed with the new Princess and the Frog trailer as well. The animation looks stunning, but I've yet to laugh at any of the trailers, and a fart joke in the first 10 seconds completely killed it.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Except that the one hour presentation is focused on DISNEYLAND and the worldwide resorts (Hong Kong, Paris, Shanghai) not WDW (although im sure DVC and maybe Space Mountain will get mentioned)

That's what jt04 said too, but I don't know where he got that info from. All of the D23 Expo info that has come out has focused on the Disneyland Resort models and displays that will be in the big Parks & Resorts exhibit, and I get that.

But I still think they are not going to totally stiff WDW out of announcements beyond the Star Tours 2.0 that we already know about. They must have something up their sleeve for WDW at D23 Expo, and I still think that Jay Rasulo's keynote address on Saturday morning will be the time and place for the big announcements for WDW.

There might not be models of new WDW stuff on display in the exhibit, but I can easily imagine there will be WDI sketches and renderings of future WDW projects flashed on the big video screens in the Anaheim Arena when Jay Rasulo gives his big speech. Then, at future D23 Expos, the models and in depth displays of these WDW projects can be found on the exhibit floor.

Unless you and/or jt04 have some insider info on Jay's speech and know what he's going to say? Or is it just a hunch? Either way, Jay's speech should prove to be very interesting for all Disney theme park fans!
 

NemoRocks78

Seized
Exactly! Thanks for putting it so well.

Honestly, I've been saying that cost is D23's biggest mistake. It's a AWESOME concept, it has GREAT marketing, but for some, where is the value? Who can spend all this money at a time like this? The fact that you have to pay to get in daily, just makes it look like Disney wants to get their buck out of you.

Of course, I do realize that it's a business, and much (experience wise) is being offered here, but the opinion stands.

Um what's new :shrug: :lookaroun
 

MKCP 1985

Well-Known Member
Most people think Comic-Con in San Diego is a great event. To attend, you have to register in advance and when the passes sell out, that's it. There is no buying admission at the door.

In 2008, the adult single day admission price differed depending on the day, with the highest single day price at $35 and the four day pass was $75.

As we all know, Disney is not a little basement enterprise. The standards expected of Disney don't allow it to do anything on a small scale. So, it is going to start off grand - who can reasonably complain about that? Seriously!

If the D-23 Expo isn't success, it won't be because it is over priced. It looks to be right in the price range of shows to which it would be compared. For true Disney uber-fans, this is an expo that shouldn't be missed. Even more so if there is any chance that it won't come back next year! But I've never been to Comic-Con either, so :shrug:
 

The Conundrum

New Member
Color me unimpressed with the new Princess and the Frog trailer as well. The animation looks stunning, but I've yet to laugh at any of the trailers, and a fart joke in the first 10 seconds completely killed it.

It's not only the fart jokes its also the horrible randy newman music it just can't compete with Alan Menken (and Howard Ashmen) or the music Disney used to come up with inhouse.

Lasseter made some poor choices.
 

NemoRocks78

Seized
Most people think Comic-Con in San Diego is a great event. To attend, you have to register in advance and when the passes sell out, that's it. There is no buying admission at the door.

In 2008, the adult single day admission price differed depending on the day, with the highest single day price at $35 and the four day pass was $75.

As we all know, Disney is not a little basement enterprise. The standards expected of Disney don't allow it to do anything on a small scale. So, it is going to start off grand - who can reasonably complain about that? Seriously!

If the D-23 Expo isn't success, it won't be because it is over priced. It looks to be right in the price range of shows to which it would be compared. For true Disney uber-fans, this is an expo that shouldn't be missed. Even more so if there is any chance that it won't come back next year! But I've never been to Comic-Con either, so :shrug:
You're right, Doug. These kinda things don't come cheap (I went to a "convention" in Miami Beach this past May... twas $40 for a single day pass!) and this shouldn't have to just because it's Disney. We already see how they take our money at the parks, so this shouldn't even be a surprise. :lol: And with all the events and such going on over the four days here, it's actually a damn good deal, I'd say.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
If the D-23 Expo isn't success, it won't be because it is over priced. It looks to be right in the price range of shows to which it would be compared. For true Disney uber-fans, this is an expo that shouldn't be missed. Even more so if there is any chance that it won't come back next year! But I've never been to Comic-Con either, so :shrug:

When did they announce D23 Expo again? It was like six months ago wasn't it? And at first we knew little about it, and it wasn't until early summer that the scale and scope of this thing came into focus. Even now, a day before it opens, we don't really know what to expect or what we'll experience there.

I'm thinking the ticket sales are soft because you have to give people at least 6 or 8 months, preferably a year, in advance notice so they can budget and plan a trip to Anaheim to attend such a thing. Everyone knows when ComicCon is a year in advance, but a year ago we had never heard of D23 and knew nothing about any expo.

There's 800,000 annual passholders at Disneyland, and 20 Million people live within a two hour freeway drive of Anaheim. So they can get a decent bump in attendance just locally. But to make this a truly major event worthy of the money they have poured into it, you need people driving down 15 hours from Portland and flying in from Boston and Miami and Sydney. And for the vast majority of people, that type of trip is going to take some budgeting and major planning and they need more than a few months notice to do that.

It's like Disney wanted this to be HUGE! right out of the box, simply because it had the Disney brand name on it and Disney said so.

It reminds me of their lofty expectations for Disney's California Adventure. :lol:
 

Disneyson 1

New Member
Color me unimpressed with the new Princess and the Frog trailer as well. The animation looks stunning, but I've yet to laugh at any of the trailers, and a fart joke in the first 10 seconds completely killed it.

For me it was the expanding butt.

The songs aren't as horrible as I thought.
 
On the website it said the Imagineers would be talking about updating HOP at MK. They also show glimpses of future attractions coming to all the Disney parks in the near future.
 

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