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News New Haunted Mansion Grounds Expansion, Retail Shop Coming to Disneyland Resort in 2024
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mickEblu
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To save a few Pennies on maintenance. Or maybe the ole “it’s impossible to find that old part” non sense. Or find people that know how to fix/ maintain it.
CraftyFox
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I’m enjoying the new bride, and I definitely think it’s still obvious she is a bride with all the mis en scène. I just don’t think the dress looks 19th century (to be fair, Connie is dressed for the 1900s). The older brides, especially the looming, billowing ones from the 90s read a lot more Victorian. I would have loved to see something closer to the early Constance concept art, but that’s just personal preference!
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Mr. Sullivan
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If I had to guess the reasoning for changing to digital is less maintenance requirements in the long term
Nland316
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Overall I think these changes are a net positive. The bride I think looks great, and a much improved upgrade over Constance.
Love that they got rid of her dialogue. The Hitchhiking Ghosts also look good. Honestly if I wasn’t told it was changed, I don’t think I would notice.
Can we please now upgrade the east side of the park?
Love that they got rid of her dialogue. The Hitchhiking Ghosts also look good. Honestly if I wasn’t told it was changed, I don’t think I would notice.
Can we please now upgrade the east side of the park?
CraftyFox
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It seems like Connie might have always had an expiration date, perhaps for legal reasons regarding the actress’s’ likeness. The Constance actress had this on her now-defunct blog back in 2007:
“Her image will appear for approximately the next twenty years as a young woman from the late 19th century who marries five successive husbands for their money (each more wealthy than the last) and murders them on their honeymoons with an ax. Her final conquest is the owner of the Mansion, and at his untimely demise she becomes the Mistress of the Haunted Mansion, destined at her death to haunt the house forever”
“Her image will appear for approximately the next twenty years as a young woman from the late 19th century who marries five successive husbands for their money (each more wealthy than the last) and murders them on their honeymoons with an ax. Her final conquest is the owner of the Mansion, and at his untimely demise she becomes the Mistress of the Haunted Mansion, destined at her death to haunt the house forever”
duncedoof
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According to Long Forgotten's HBG2, it was, in actuality, Kim Irvine who we have to thank for the hanging man still being there, as she put a stop to the proposal of removing it.
I tried to tell you the article was just PR talk!
They just want to look good. WDI themselves never liked how Connie looked. And they must have decided that there's not enough alleged backlash to go through the trouble in the stretching room. Now with hardly any window of time like the one we just got in the last year, I seriously doubt they'll go ahead with it.
I tried to tell you the article was just PR talk!
They just want to look good. WDI themselves never liked how Connie looked. And they must have decided that there's not enough alleged backlash to go through the trouble in the stretching room. Now with hardly any window of time like the one we just got in the last year, I seriously doubt they'll go ahead with it.
Disney Analyst
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It looks to me like the figure is fully there, with some sort of projected bits like the face.
duncedoof
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Yeouch. Losing Shroud ghost stings. Just a little weird thing about the Mansion gone. Did it look spectacular? Was it coherent? No! But it did make you stop and look at it, and keep thinking about wondering why it looked like that.
Probably making me sadder than the digital hitchhikers.
Probably making me sadder than the digital hitchhikers.
splah
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The couple videos I watched make it looks like the hanging man is swinging more than WDWs
The bride is growing on me. I like that it floats but I feel it’s too bright. The lighting design makes it look like it has floodlights on it instead of shadowy in an attic.
Seems like a pretty big peppers ghost set up just to add some animated flames and ethereal embellishments floating around her. I wonder if it reads differently in person. Holding a bouquet pointing down by her side would go a long way too. Wonder if they can make her fade in and out?
It fits my overall theory that projections in the past used to wow and work great because projectors and screens were not common home purchases. Now they are. So they disappoint more because they are ordinary. But when they go practical it takes it back to “things you don’t see every day” I’d also like to see a little more “imperfections” in the execution. We’ve gotten so good at building things that it’s almost too perfect and things feel sterile.
The bride is growing on me. I like that it floats but I feel it’s too bright. The lighting design makes it look like it has floodlights on it instead of shadowy in an attic.
Seems like a pretty big peppers ghost set up just to add some animated flames and ethereal embellishments floating around her. I wonder if it reads differently in person. Holding a bouquet pointing down by her side would go a long way too. Wonder if they can make her fade in and out?
It fits my overall theory that projections in the past used to wow and work great because projectors and screens were not common home purchases. Now they are. So they disappoint more because they are ordinary. But when they go practical it takes it back to “things you don’t see every day” I’d also like to see a little more “imperfections” in the execution. We’ve gotten so good at building things that it’s almost too perfect and things feel sterile.
Animaniac93-98
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The bride is a lateral change to me. I don't miss Constance, but a more practical figure that relied less on projections would have looked better
I like the added fog and projections in the graveyard. Will the bat in the bird cage stay this time?
Can WDW also get these HHG animations instead? It's not as good as the original effect, but better than the cartoony look
I had concerns about what was going to be changed, but compared to much of modern WDI (and how badly the HBG was implemented in Florida), this was a mostly successful refurb.
I like the added fog and projections in the graveyard. Will the bat in the bird cage stay this time?
Can WDW also get these HHG animations instead? It's not as good as the original effect, but better than the cartoony look
I had concerns about what was going to be changed, but compared to much of modern WDI (and how badly the HBG was implemented in Florida), this was a mostly successful refurb.
eddie104
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I’m sorry they can keep this new bride in California and keep ours the same. To me looks like a projection on a screen versus a full fledged figure or animatronic.
I understand it’s a pepper ghost effect but maybe the lighting design is not very good.
TheCoasterNerd
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- In the Parks
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According to FreshBaked both the dress and candelabra are physical.
Disney Analyst
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Also yes, Dusty is saying all the projections and stuff in the graveyard are new. Looks great.
SuddenStorm
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This was my take away as well-
Though I sorta hate the new placement for the bride.
But considering what could have been, I'd say the Mansion survived mostly unscathed and possibly a tad improved, since this bride- while lacking the taste and subtlety of prior iterations- is better than Constance.
splah
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Look at the endless hallway at 9:14. The lower half of the hallway is blacked out or covered. I looked back at prior videos and it’s not like this. Are they going to add the bride here too?
Tha Realest
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Are they going to randomly insert her in throughout the ride like Depp’s Jack Sparrow?
VicariousCorpse
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I noticed that too. Maybe it's the lighting settings on the camera and it's not noticeable in person. I think they tried to fix the double image of the candelabra by putting a scrim on its back. Fixing one problem to cause another? It doesn't look like they are changing it to me. How would they go about adding her here? The Phantom Manor has an extra hallway that we don't to achieve the pepper's ghost with Melanie and the Phantom so it couldn't be similar to that.
Here's the double image I am talking about from a couple of years ago, just a quick screengrab, not the best:
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PiratesMansion
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I'm undecided on the new bride, but at least we won't have to listen to terrible quips in the attic that's totally at odds with the rest of the atmosphere anymore.
The HHG definitely look much better than WDW's.
Stretching room still intact.
Not bad.
I was actually wondering if the "structural" complications might refer to (theoretically) necessary collaboration with WDW, since if they were to make the stretching room change (hopefully they never do), they'd probably want to do it for both mansions at the same time.
The HHG definitely look much better than WDW's.
Stretching room still intact.
Not bad.
Was there a post on the blog that credited Irvine for saving the stretching room? If there was, it does not appear to be on the blog anymore.
I was actually wondering if the "structural" complications might refer to (theoretically) necessary collaboration with WDW, since if they were to make the stretching room change (hopefully they never do), they'd probably want to do it for both mansions at the same time.