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[marni1971]

Canals didn’t make sense...I wouldn’t be a tad bit surprised if the gondolas are not a manpower savings. But manpower savings isn’t the point of this.

It saves quite a lot if you don’t need a second International Gateway. For starters.

 

[Lift Blog]

What actual numbers of staff will be needed? And are they guessing correctly?

Not sure about the Disney terms for these positions but assuming 18 hours per day, 7 day a week operations, I came up with the following estimate:

1 Maintenance Manager
1 Assistant Maintenance Manager
12 Mechanics
1 Operations Manager
1 Assistant Operations Manager
4 Operations Supervisors
72 Operators

 

[danlb_2000]

Less than a boat link.

Really? Don't the friendship boats only require 2 people to operate, not counting maintenance staff?

 

[danlb_2000]

Not sure about the Disney terms for these positions but assuming 18 hours per day, 7 day a week operations, I come up with the following estimate:

1 Maintenance Manager
1 Assistant Maintenance Manager
12 Mechanics
1 Operations Manager
1 Assistant Operations Manager
4 Operations Supervisors
72 Operators

How much staff do you think we be needed in each end point station at any one time?

 

[peter11435]

Really? Don't the friendship boats only require 2 people to operate, not counting maintenance staff?

Yes. 2 people per boat.

But a boat link would have also resulted in a new entrance. Including park greeters, security, ticket sales, guest services, rentals, etc....

 

[larryz]

Not sure about the Disney terms for these positions but assuming 18 hours per day, 7 day a week operations, I come up with the following estimate:

1 Maintenance Manager
1 Assistant Maintenance Manager
12 Mechanics
1 Operations Manager
1 Assistant Operations Manager
4 Operations Supervisors
72 Operators

Good estimate, but since P&R now falls under Merchandising, my guess is they'll just send over a bunch of cash-register-qualified CPers to run the whole thing.

 

[peter11435]

but since P&R now falls under Merchandising

Not really how it works....

 

[Lift Blog]

How much staff do you think we be needed in each end point station at any one time?

My numbers assumed the following at any given time:
3 operators at International Gateway
1 operator at the angle station
4 operators at Riviera (2 on each side)
9 operators at CBB
3 operators at DHS
3 operators at Pop/AoA
3 mechanics on call
1 operations supervisor on call

Ski resorts staff as few as 2 operators at a time for an entire lift. I more than doubled typical ski resort gondola staffing.

 

[flynnibus]

Wow...the Cheerios just didn’t taste good this morning, huh?

WDW customers don’t typically follow patterns and flow very well. What is your opinion of that? The TTC has been traditionally OVERSTAFFED for just that reason. There is a liability associated with accident potential that won’t be tolerated.

They’re not “more confused” because it’s near their beds (though I do appreciated the sarcasm that stiffs can’t get...they probably are googling if there’s gonna be a stop within 1200 feet of their Ariel room)...they are confused enough in the first place.

This is a new system...this is serving about 6,000 rooms sandwiched between two expanding parks that are gonna have a lot of transfers using it between the two...

New ground.

Or maybe I’m just tired of your exaggeration about how everything will be awful and it can’t possibly work without moving mountains.

We’re talking about getting off one line, and follow the sign that says hotel or park. It’s not going to take generations of guests to figure out how to get in line or take that walkway over there. They tackle more complex decisions walking out the front door of their resort.

The more complex thoughts are at dhs where they will send people to one route that does many things while surrounded by lots more choices.

The transfer station is simple for guests... mechanical complex... but stupid simple for guests. They already know where they are going... it’s only a question of what hotel am I going to. Not hard

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Or maybe I’m just tired of your exaggeration about how everything will be awful and it can’t possibly work without moving mountains.

We’re talking about getting off one line, and follow the sign that says hotel or park. It’s not going to take generations of guests to figure out how to get in line or take that walkway over there. They tackle more complex decisions walking out the front door of their resort.

The more complex thoughts are at dhs where they will send people to one route that does many things while surrounded by lots more choices.

The transfer station is simple for guests... mechanical complex... but stupid simple for guests. They already know where they are going... it’s only a question of what hotel am I going to. Not hard

I’ll take you word for it. That was legitimate question that wasn’t meant as a negative. An operational question.

The attitude is still unnecessary...I didn’t say or imply negativity here. If you consider WDW customers as being savvy or adapting quickly and easily...you must have been there on one of the “good” days...not a thousand or so consecutive normal ones.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Not sure about the Disney terms for these positions but assuming 18 hours per day, 7 day a week operations, I came up with the following estimate:

1 Maintenance Manager
1 Assistant Maintenance Manager
12 Mechanics
1 Operations Manager
1 Assistant Operations Manager
4 Operations Supervisors
72 Operators

Or, @flynnibus, this was exactly what I was asking about...

Thank you, sir or madam

 

[Soluna16]

I got a good picture of the full station at DHS from the park entrance side

 

[flynnibus]

Or, @flynnibus, this was exactly what I was asking about...

Thank you, sir or madam

None of which is predicated on the transfer station being at a hotel verse anywhere else... hes looking completely at the lift's physical operation itself.

 

[imarc]

Not even considering the manpower issue, I think the variety from the outside world is what makes the gondola system so great.

People can take busses back home.

How many people can travel by boat, gondola or monorail on a daily basis?

I hope Disney continues to utilize different transportation options. It adds to the magic.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

So is the cable going to be one really long cable? Or a bunch of little cables? I guess with this project it's safe to call them "nooses."

 

[MisterPenguin]

So is the cable going to be one really long cable? Or a bunch of little cables? I guess with this project it's safe to call them "nooses."

I like the term 'noose.' Very airy. Not at all stifling like an enclosed cabin.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I like the term 'noose.' Very airy. Not at all stifling like an enclosed cabin.

The noose is the cable by which the cabins dangle above the alligators. It also doubles as electrical cable to spread the damage across more cabins when lightning strikes.

 

[Lift Blog]

So is the cable going to be one really long cable? Or a bunch of little cables? I guess with this project it's safe to call them "nooses."

Probably three but as many as five loops.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Probably three but as many as five loops.

Awesome! I wonder how much each cable weighs.

 

[Creathir]

It saves quite a lot if you don’t need a second International Gateway. For starters.

Just to add to it, even though I would have preferred the boats instead, they would not have solved for getting people from the 4 resorts to HS, only to Epcot.